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Posted: 14 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: -Srushti-


And the last scene...
Well I am rambling since yesterday...
WHY doesn't he touch her...
You know when he aproached her from the back...I so had that instinct that he would put his hands on her shoulders...to placate her...the way he had been manaoing her it was clear he was trying to pacify the ruthi biwi (Anu if you read this dont laugh😆),,, LMAO oh but I HAVE to laugh, Srush...there is only one 'ruthi hui biwi' that always pops into my mind now, kya karein😆

You know even I thought he might touch her shoulder there...but it was interesting that he came quite close...he was standing very close behind her but didn't touch her once...he even leaned in very slightly...but there is a wariness in him as he approaches her...as if this is all too new and fragile and he doesn't want to break it.

And the way he says that the house is not the same without her..she is the Atma of the house...
What he means is that she is HIS atma... LOL so true...Kesar code language😆

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Posted: 14 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: likarsh

I am glad that Kesar hasn't touched Gulaal, and is refraining from doing so. I think it's also telling that Gulaal doesn't back away or move away from Kesar. The Kesar who had no problem while he was going through his confused emotions in grabbing her and touching her--never once imposes him on her physically once he realizes it's love.


He grabs Talli because he doesn't see her romantically and only as a friend. Whereas Gulaal, he innately knows that he can't be like that with her once the love equation has been brought in.

And the best thing about it, Gulaal knows this and isn't in the least worried or nervous about his close proximity to her.

I don't think I've explained it well--but I love this show for showing this stark contrast with how Kesar now approaches Gulaal.




I completely agree with you! Very well said👏👏...I'm also loving the show for the way they've shown this whole approach of Kesar's towards Gulaal...it's so refreshing! He doesn't impose himself on her and she also isn't backing away from him physically in that respect...this is a battle of THOUGHT PROCESS at this level...and Kesar seems to sense subconsciously ever since his own feelings have become clear to him...that now touching Gulaal would have a different implication to him...something has changed...and that he senses that innately has been so subtly and beautifully shown.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01


I completely agree with you! Very well said👏👏...I'm also loving the show for the way they've shown this whole approach of Kesar's towards Gulaal...it's so refreshing! He doesn't impose himself on her and she also isn't backing away from him physically in that respect...this is a battle of THOUGHT PROCESS at this level...and Kesar seems to sense subconsciously ever since his own feelings have become clear to him...that now touching Gulaal would have a different implication to him...something has changed...and that he senses that innately has been so subtly and beautifully shown.

Yup, couldn't have said it better myself. Actually, I think it's been so subtly and beautifully shown that our trying to analyze and explain it in words doesn't even begin to capture it. I love that he didn't try stop her by physically grabbing her. I don't even know how to describe it.

Like you said this is a thought process, and he is using emotional and thoughtful questions and statements. Any physical contact from him would not be appropriate considering the situation. And it's sure as hell not going to help him get through to Gulaal, but that's just secondary. That's not his main reason.

The main reason is simply that he knows innately that it's not something he should do.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: likarsh

Yup, couldn't have said it better myself. Actually, I think it's been so subtly and beautifully shown that our trying to analyze and explain it in words doesn't even begin to capture it. I love that he didn't try stop her by physically grabbing her. I don't even know how to describe it.

Like you said this is a thought process, and he is using emotional and thoughtful questions and statements. Any physical contact from him would not be appropriate considering the situation. And it's sure as hell not going to help him get through to Gulaal, but that's just secondary. That's not his main reason.

The main reason is simply that he knows innately that it's not something he should do.



What's amazing is that the way they've shown it...you can still SENSE how much Kesar is drawn to her...in the last epi, as he's asking her to come home, he's standing so close, you can almost see him subconsciously leaning in as he makes his earnest request to her to understand...but he never goes the whole way to directly touching her...he stops short...

Yeah I honestly don't have the words to describe it either cuz they've shown it so nicely😆...I find myself scrambling for the right words to express this.

Even at the height of his desperation to stop her from leaving, he didn't touch her once...and in this epi toh he was much calmer...still he didn't impose on her in anyway...waise bhi his words were hitting her much harder than any arm grabbing would...and when she's ready to listen, she will know that Kesar is not trying to impose himself on her in anyway, period...all he did was express his own feelings...he's not asking anything of her in return for that.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01



What's amazing is that the way they've shown it...you can still SENSE how much Kesar is drawn to her...in the last epi, as he's asking her to come home, he's standing so close, you can almost see him subconsciously leaning in as he makes his earnest request to her to understand...but he never goes the whole way to directly touching her...he stops short...

Yeah I honestly don't have the words to describe it either cuz they've shown it so nicely😆...I find myself scrambling for the right words to express this.

Even at the height of his desperation to stop her from leaving, he didn't touch her once...and in this epi toh he was much calmer...still he didn't impose on her in anyway...waise bhi his words were hitting her much harder than any arm grabbing would...and when she's ready to listen, she will know that Kesar is not trying to impose himself on her in anyway, period...all he did was express his own feelings...he's not asking anything of her in return for that.


Exactly. So well put.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01



What's amazing is that the way they've shown it...you can still SENSE how much Kesar is drawn to her...in the last epi, as he's asking her to come home, he's standing so close, you can almost see him subconsciously leaning in as he makes his earnest request to her to understand...but he never goes the whole way to directly touching her...he stops short...

Yeah I honestly don't have the words to describe it either cuz they've shown it so nicely😆...I find myself scrambling for the right words to express this.

Even at the height of his desperation to stop her from leaving, he didn't touch her once...and in this epi toh he was much calmer...still he didn't impose on her in anyway...waise bhi his words were hitting her much harder than any arm grabbing would...and when she's ready to listen, she will know that Kesar is not trying to impose himself on her in anyway, period...all he did was express his own feelings...he's not asking anything of her in return for that.


Exactly tht is the scene which made me sooo whoosy whoosy..even without touching they so have an amazing chemistry...and he is so vulnerable..and you are right Anu...There is something which has changed in that equation...and he is so conscious of that...
and he is so afraid that touch would make her go Kaboom😆
And anyways...the thing is this relation is so above all that ...I just found it very endearing the way he treats her...even at the height of desperation and being subjected to the grossest injustice...he doesnot enter the blame game...he just puts the most logical argument...
And I loved how he was not embarassed when Gulaal pointed out that he should atleast not speak these things in front of Vasant...
He takes Vasant's position in her life as such a necessary ingredient...as if there could be no Kes-Gul without Vasant...and that is so true too...😳
@ Red...exactly..even when she came to return his letters in his room..all he said that she would realize He loves her one day...He doesnot say that she would love him back one day!! that is what makes the whole equation amazing...



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Posted: 14 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: shalini92

hello my lovely little wittle cutie pies! 😳 btw, i love neil! 😳hey..shalini..😊


okay, i got a better episode than yesterday, and for that i am sooo thankful to the love CVs of Gulaal! btw, i love neil! 😳thank god woh bach gaye..nahin tho hum hai na..unhe seede rasthe pe lane ke liye..😆me 2 love neil...😃

okay, time to put my thinking caps on and analyse one of the best acting-filled episodes. btw, i love neil! 😳ok..thinking cap..shaayad..almari mein rakha tha maine..abhi lathi hoon..wait..ok..all set start..😆me 3 love neil..😃

the website i watched it was a bit weird and i lost bits of the episode, so shall come back to edit when i get the full episode with the help of dhruvie. btw, i love neil! 😳ho jatha hai..kabhi..kabhi..😆me 4 love neil..😆

JK (the awesomest and paanba) and paanba with kesar (in the hall as well as in his room)

combining both the scenes, i think JK is only one who sees reason in the whole family, and i am not just saying it cos i have been enchanted by that white kurta dude, but because she really sees no problem. is it...😆
look at paanba, when kesar questioned her why she feels that him love gulaal is wrong, she was literally left speechless! i hope those people who were grossed out by their relationship, answer these questions to themselves. its for your own good guys, cos you'll get to discover a beautiful relationship between these people. 😳 btw, i love neil! 😳true..true..n i also love neil...😆

and i laughed out so loud when i heard JK's line, "sab gulaal ke marji se chalega kya? jab chaha deeyarvattu kiya, jab chaha, use tod diya! pehele toh usse bina pooche deeyarvattu kiya, phir jab woh aaj us rishte ko manne laga hai, use apni patni maanta hai TAB MAHARANI CHALI GAYI GHAR CHOD KAR!" BULL'S EYE my cute mota cupid! 😳 yup..yup..CV's ne hamari sare bathe sunli...her expressions are so cute..😆damn your arrows reach the target straight on!😆 you're too damn awesome for anyone's good JK! 😆 and that maharani oart was tooo good! how she knows what we think of gulaal so well! JK ROCKS BABY!😳😆 btw, i love neil! 😳yup..where is d appreciation thread for JK man..😆..n I also..love neil...😳

and kesar comes in so broken! 😭 feeling so helpless. omg. even i felt helpless. guess that's how much we can relate with this character as to feel what he feels. got to hand it to the brilliant actor who made it possible for us to relate to him.😳 oh btw, i love him!😛😉agree...character mein achi tarah guss gaya hai...😆..n I also love Him...😳

and JK just bloody raises her eyebrows and huffs and walks away at the high drama scene! HAHAHA! epic reaction! that woman never fails to bring in comic relief in tense situations like these! hahaha!😆 btw, i love neil! 😳she is also irritated like us..with badi haveli.people..😆.n i also love neil..😳

then comes the scene between panba and kesar, when that heart-wrenching song plays and tears automatically start forming in my eyes.😭same pinch...😭 that scene was very well done.. hats off to kesuda for raising those necessary questions! KESUDA FTW!!!😆 i love the fact that when he's falling in love with gulaal, he does it from his heart, but on this journey of being in love, he never failed to bring in his head as well!👏 btw, i love neil! 😳haan..kis tree ke neeche bet kar itna samajdar ban gaya hai..ek dam se..😲...phir bhi I also love neil..😳

then the talli and kesar scene comes.. okay, one moment talli makes complete sense like she did yesterday while talking to gullu, but somehow she managed to sound utterly retarded today! well said..👏i dont know what the hell did talli mean by breaking gulaal's heart! how the hell does one confess his love for someone and breaks her heart in the process... talli needs to improve her vocabulary...😆 agree..😆like seriously! i don't know why her intelligence is swinging like a pendulum?! one moment, very ishmart, the next moment, an utter crackpot. 😡 btw, i love neil! 😳kuthe ki poonch kabhi seedhi..nahin hoti..😆.n I also love neil...😳

and kesuda... even here we see him so shattered. ah, this chap right here just tends to attract all forms of sympathy and pity from everybody! cutie pie! 😳😆hottie-pie...😳 what he did today, was the right thing to do, and the way he did it, commendable. gulaal needs to learn from this guy how to face things head on and not run away wishing the problem would disappear. at least talli now knows his side of the story. maybe her intelligence level will go high again and she'll do something good.Aisa hi ho...nahin tho I'm planning to kidnap her..😡 cos that's her only ticket to my good books. btw, i love neil!😳Mine too..n I also love neil..😳

AND FINALLY, the scene that i had been waiting for! kesar does come back to get gulaal back, but i see that a part of this conversation is gonna be aired tom (ah srush! 😉). i was right since the beginning, only kesuda can make gulaal see reason when no one else can! and vice versa! such a dynamic love!😳I loved d way..he bring out dat topic..👏 he has broken the first and the most difficult barrier with his awesomely posed questions, and now revjibhai and others will break the other weaker barriers for her! KUDOS TO KESUDA!😳 btw, i love neil! 😳yeah..ladki kisika sunegi..kya..I have no faith in her..n I only love neil...😳

okay that's it.. and i apologise for submitting my homework so late!😳 btw, i love neil! 😳Me too..😳


Funtoo..post..shalu.😳.great analysis...👏
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Yeh kya hai,,,, Love you love you chal raha hai...mujhe koi nahi bolta
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Posted: 14 years ago
#19

Originally posted by: Lennie

Hey Shalu
hey lennie!😳😆
I had a feeling ppl would like the maharani line lol
i totally loved it! i tell you, jamuna kaki just pretends she doesn't know about mobile phones and stuff, she knows perfectly well how they work and she comes here every night on IF to check out what we people are writing, uses our words and says it in front of everyone. i tell you, she reads everything we write.😉😆
Neil is something else as Kesar, i agree with everything esp the questions he raised up and why he did, and esp the last scene
you know i saw some scenes of KB, and i could not connect so much to him then as i do now, because this character is so.. is so REAL that you can't help but really attach yourself to him because it feels like he really lives among us and not just in the fictional world. he's has so many flaws with a lot of virtues as well, he has been portrayed as a real being. on one hand when he's being utterly sweet, affectionate, understanding, and loving to the one person that matters to him, he can very vengeful, sometimes unforgiving, aggressive and possessive towards the same person. but when it comes to her leaving, that's it, he'll forget every negative aspect of himself and become the true love angel he is. and switch in characters is very appealing and real cos that's what even we would do for our loved ones.
This is what was needed to make Gulaal think, a sort of break in her thoughts and for me thats a start... and thats what it was needed a start and then let the process go on... , it will be long and not a easy one and she wont let it be as well, but thats Gulaal as well
agreed. and this slow gradual process could only have begun with kesar's questioning. if anyone can break the mighty barriers around gulaal, it's kesar (and vasant), cos these are the two people she has attached her soul to.
Vasant is her past and Kesar is her future - even though right now we could say he is her present, but i feel both Vasant/Kesar are her present
kesar is most definitely her present.
but in vasant's case, i feel, at present, gulaal is still living in the past, which is why you feel vasant is also her present. she is physically in the current world, but her mind works in the past, which is why she has never been able to let go of vasant, she has not been able to see the present problems of the family and trying to solve it so as to fulfill vasant's dreams. she has been living in the past for 10 years. and now that kesar is back, he'll slowly bring her to the present BEING HER SUPPORT (as the jyotish said) and on the way, we shall see a beautiful love blossom.
I honestly think Gulaal or anyone would be say its a sin and so on, thats natural reaction and what to say, but on the other hadn we also know Kesar is no wrong at all, and we know he doesnt feel its wrong - but we all know that this isnt a simple situation at all
everyone would say it's a sin cos they have been thinking from gulaal's point of view, which is VERY one-sided. kesar showed to her the other side when he asked her why is the relationship a sin when she herself used the same relationship to stay in the house and fulfill vasant's dreams? when the rest of the family (excluding JK) only thinks about one side of the issue, kesar represents the other side which everyone has to familiarize themselves with.
that's all. plus, as JK said, sab gulaal ke hi marzi se chalta hai is ghar mein, which is why they didn't realise that this relationship is not as bad as they think.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Ahhh yes the way Kesar walked up to Gulaal, wanting to touch her but stopping himself was just so beautiful. Their relationship is seriously unlike any other I've seen (cannot say that enough). Kesar has so much respect for Gulaal and the irony is that he wants her so much that he is willing to keep that physical distance between the two. She's got her her back to him but still the chemistry comes out so pristine.

I always get the feeling that Gulaal avoids looking right in to Kesar's eyes because she knows his feelings are really genuine and pure, no matter how much she tries to deny them. Gulaal has maintained an awkward body language after that pareshani scene, where she was drawn to him.

Everything is so subtle between them, they're two characters taken from a novel. I think it was PaanBa who said that GK's relationship is a 'paheli'.

Hats off to the creatives who have been able to come up with a bond like this.
Edited by *Reemz* - 14 years ago

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