Team Sai vs team P - Page 15

Originally posted by: Nirip

Yeah, me too felt k Ashwini has been made a scapegoat. Mujhe bhi woh reason jananaa hai.She said she will be with P till end...kiska end

I think they show ninad health problems because of P and sai save him even during shivani marriage she also go with sai side when sai save rajiv

Originally posted by: Sinmegh

I think this complaint is regarding the auto accident .. they placed it wrongly in the precap

i think it is - about vinu being tortured /abused mentally by pp and will show that video as the proof... pp knew it and that's why that accident happened!!

Ashwini Pagla gai he😆🤪🥱😡🤢👎🏼🤔😒🐷😵🤬😈😈😈

Originally posted by: Colt.Pixy

Ashwini Pagla gai he😆🤪🥱😡🤢👎🏼🤔😒🐷😵🤬😈😈😈

Achcha hai. Jiske team mei rehti hai, woh team haar jaati hai

Originally posted by: Life_Is_Dutiful

I don't have much expectations but I do feel this politician track us brought in so that Pakhi will start doubting Sairat and may do some bigger kaand due to which Virakhi marriage may get annulled. I know Virat will never leave Pakhi nor will she leave him even after their divorce. If at all they get divorced she'll still live in CN as Vinu's mamma. The only thing I hope is if the writers indeed are planning for sairat reunion in future then they first need to end the Virakhi marriage torture.

Yesterday Pakhi made a wonderful statement. "Everything here is sai's." When pakhi screams, she speaks the truth :P

Thats the gist of this track IMO. Everything and everyone is Sai's. That is the truth Pakhi will have to accept.

So yeah Vinu will go away and in the mean time, everyone will shift to sai. Outhouse with be the GHAR. Pakhi and Ashwini will remain in the HOUSE.

Virat will be the deal breaker. Though he will not move away from Pakhi. When Pakhi realizes the truth, she will back off. She has to accept her reality and move on. Otherwise, she will be this clingy villian destroying everyone's peace. including children.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

I am not going to review the episode. I knew it will go in circles and Pakhi will end up clinging to Virat. It is going according to my expectations.

I would like to draw attention to parallel narratives. Today shows who the mothers are! what is mother's love. And How far they can go for their child's wellbeing.

Vinu and Virat are the children here. Ashwini and Sai are the mothers. Who is Pakhi, we will discuss later :D

One cant deny the fact that what Vinu means for Sai, Virat means the same to Ashwini. Just because she is a flipper on Sai, we cant deny the fact that she loves her child immensely. See how fiercly they are protecting them!!

For Sai, it is not easy to live near Virat. She has to compromise on several things that are important to her. On top of that she has to face taunts from low lives like Sonali. And ofcourse Pakhi who riles her up like anything. But she is seeing only her child. His happiness. She might not get him for herself in the end. He might not live with her. He might live as Pakhi's son only. But she still wants to cure him of the fears. To enable to live him a FULL life, a healthy life, and a happy one.

Coming to Ashwini, Sherry and I discussed this before, she will not want Sai for Virat. She might love Sai. She might have forgiven her. She might even be okay if Vinu goes to Sai. She might support her as a mother too. But she will not let her in as Virat's wife. She needs to protect her son from the eventual heartbreak that might take his life. She has lived through the dreadful days where he apparently was suicidal. seen him suffer, wallow in pain. She will want him to LIVE, if not fully. Mothers will be strict with their children if they want to play with danger. Sai is that danger for Virat, in Ashwini's opinion. She will hence support Pakhi. Till Pakhi is in CN, Sai will not enter. And she will fight for Pakhi, not for Pakhi, but for her son. It comes from the same emotion Sai has for her son. They will not let their babies suffer.

Now see Pakhi and evaluate her motherhood. I need not explain. I dont know about her earlier stint where she fought with Virat to bring Sai and treat Vinu. It could have been pure, selfless if it is proven later. That zidd she showed then can be called motherhood. However, we dont know yet whether that was genuine or her fire test to get into the good books of Virat. Mostly it is the latter.

So yeah, Ashwini will not let Sai back in Virat's life. Sai will have to gain her confidence that she will not leave him again. It will be interesting to watch.

PS: I know I just make a quicky post on Ashwini. But it is what it is. She will flip but in the very end.

Agree Sadhika. Very nicely put. It is a comparison of two mothers. Both love their children, but their perspectives are different. Their way of thinking what is best for their child is in contrast.

Sai is ready to let go off Vinu if he is happy with P. She only cares about his happiness and well being. For him to live a FULL life. With no compromises. Ashwini on the other hand is willing to let V live a compromised life, where he is breathing but not living. Even it kills him from inside everyday with P she is fine with that.

Sai is fighting for the mental agony P is causing her son in her bid to keep him to herself. Wherein Ashwini is fighting to keep that woman who is causing so much stress to her son only because she forbids Sai being in his life. Which means he will not be at risk of being suicidal with Sai leaving

Another point where Sai and Ashwini are different. Ashwini never understood Sai' POV when she left with Vinu. She blamed her for taking Vinu away. But despite the hurt Sai still understands Ashwini's plight as a mother.

P in my perspective is not worthy of comparison. She is not a mother. If she is ready to bargain her win over Vinu's mental health then I have no words. PERIOD.

Another comparison I want make here is BK. The reason I bring BK here is because she is being that mother to V rn that we expected Ashwini to be. BK was fine with Devi being mentally unstable all her life vs her living a happy life with her love. Why? Because she believed this alliance will tarnish her family reputation. Not that she didn't love Devi. She was happy to see Devi happy. But she was too proud and too much about the reputation to accept it fully. This is Ashwini post leap. And BK after seeing V break down and his desperate state decided to unite him with Sai. She saw the true smile and happiness Sai brought to V. And she did not shy away from acknowledging it. Wheras Ashwini knows this fact without any evidences. Yet she chooses to let him suffer. Again a difference of perspective. what is better for their child.

Just imagine if he ever says this and Ashwini will be like I will be the last person to make you free from her... If you want to be free from Patralekha Bala then godu you first have to make me free from my Aai duty... And then gadha godu be like sorry pakhi, thanks pakhi, patni pakhi, vinu ki aai pakhi, eshaan pakhi... And after watching all this we audience will be like "Satyanash "

Yeah I wanted to discuss BK too. But see BK is smart. She is duty bound like Virat. She will keep emotions aside while making decisions for her family. She chose Virat's happiness, because it is good for the family. He is the head of the family for next generation. And his kids MAKE the next generation. So she thinks from broader perspective. Not just as a mother.

I want to draw similarities between Sai and Ashwini's emotions. Both come from the same need to protect their babies. Ashwini doesnt care about anything else than Virat's survival. She has seen his close to death encounters, so she is kind of turned stone to other emotions. :D

Moor - I have shared my views mostly in different responses. So will write primarily about 2 points here.

Originally posted by: Moor278

The other important aspect came out in his words. Sai aur main... Mera beta.... subconsciously V has started disassociating P ... once again he didn't realize it before saying it. But he didn't seem guilty either after saying it.

Teams are out in open... Ash was the expected one. Ninad is surprisingly missing and I wonder where he will lean... towards V or towards Ash. 🤔

I my view, for V, Sai has been Vinu's mother. He acknowledges P's role as mother figure in Vinu's life. But he always considered Sai as the real mother. And I believe it was also the case in some twisted way even before he met Sai after leap. Yes, I'm still holding onto "Aai". But do you remember how V used to call Vinu "mera beta". P had to correct him or remind him. And at that time it used to be a request. More so because the marriage was still based on conditions that were acknowledged and adhered to by both parties. And Vinu was adopted by V. Why would V keep that discrimination as long as he didn’t have to maintain a real marriage with P.

Post Vinu's reveal - V's first thought after he knew the truth was to tell Sai. Not P. Because for him Sai is the real mother. It is only after P's condition worsened that he stepped back. Post that at many ocassions V has called P as Vinu's mother, including the intentional harsh statements he made to Sai to pacify P. But a person can lie in front of people. But will not lie to themselves. Therefore, I will ignore all those against his break down where he screamed and said "Sai tum hi Vinu ki maa ho". And that is what he actually believes.

I know makers are good at trolling us. And can also take us for a ride with one statement and take a complete detour. By creating circumstances where the words no longer can hold true. Yet! I still want to hold on to a dialogue that they gave V. "Sai mere bachon ki ma sirf tum hogi". These were V's words. And if he has been true on his words, he will only acknowledge Sai as the mother to his children. And it applies to Vinu.

Somewhere they will can to close loop to all that happened pre leap and connect it now.

Coming to precap... it needs to be seen in the broader context.

Most of you are upset with the fact that V is unable to draw boundaries with P if he is once again in love with Sai.

My 2 cents are these...

P is not going anywhere so soon. She is desperately clutching on straws.... Vinu and V... if she has focused on V, it means Vinu has probably thawed. Or she has realized that V is already gone to Sai.

Any which way, these are her attempts to be relevant... and by the makers to keep her relevant, V will the softer target.

The other thing is V isn't intent on breaking marriage with P. And it's a legal marriage.

With these 2 combined... P has all the haq whether the FD likes it or not. All of our fussing won't help since from the makers POV, P can do all this and more... and V can't stop her. (His haters would say he gave extreme lenient treatment to P when he was married to Sai... to ab usse otherwise expect karna would be foolish)

This is cringe and non cringe based on what anyone feels about VP marriage and it's validity.

Here I have a slightly different opinion. Yes, our POV about the marriage can define whether it is cringe or not. But for me it is not just the fact whether P is married to V or not.

Assuming he is. Two things are very clear to V and P. The marriage was based on conditions. It was P who wanted more going against the mutual agreement. (V gave her false hopes in between as he tried to get back at Sai). The fact that V does not love P (The fact that he loves Sai is not the concern here).

It is still cringe for me on these two grounds. Individual space and choice needs to be respected at all times. Even between spouses. If not "Marital abuse" would not have been a crime. It is the right to say "NO" even to a spouse and the other half to respect that. If P knows that V does not love her and is not interested in sharing a conjugal relationship with her, she CANNOT force herself on him, or pressurise him to get intimate. Just because he is a man does not make it right or not a matter of grave concern. It is equally wrong. And this is why it is cringy more than anything else. P trying to seduce him while she was married to Samrat was equally cringy to her trying to force him into getting physical without his consent even being married to him. This aspect makes it all wrong.

Originally posted by: Nirip

Yeh to shayad humei kabhi na mile. but dil behlane ko ghalib khyal acha hai. Agar V mei yeh baat hoti to baat hi kiaa thi. He will never leave her. Bappa can do a miracle k P ki budhi brasht ho jaye aur woh koi badaa kaand karde. VP ki shaadi annul bhi hoti hai, tab bhi I doubt k yeh P ko chhodega....her ehsaan n all. Naa yeh P k sath kuch karega naa usse chhodega, aise hi humara aur Sai ka khoon jalayega.

Woh aurat iske bache ko mentally harass kar rahi hai aur yeh seasonal pyaar mei khoya hai...Sai apni self-respect ko pichhe chhod CN aa gyi, iske liye Vinu priority kiu nhi🤔 what is he waiting for.

P.S. Guys busy days at work...so if not able to reply to tags, then sorry. thanks for all the tags n wonderful posts.

Uske bas ki kuch na hai. Yeh to BK ko bhi pata hai. Isiliye to wo bhi Bappa se help maang rahi hai. Pata hai ki ye nikamma hai. Yeh sota rahega aur kuch nahi karega. 🤣