Savi sai Joshi it is !! - Page 13

P should

- Either understand V and give him space.

- Or speak to him and explain what she wants from him.

- Or leave him and go if she doesn't like.

She can't manipulate Sai as Sai s aloof and doesn't want any help or time from Virat.

Because of P only Sai left and lost 2 kids.

Virat chavan ke Bezaitti huyi aaj uski beti ke dwara . Oh yeah ,let's party .

Is she learning hand gestures from ashteeen ? 😳😳😳

Originally posted by: mysticriver

Aakhir poti kiski hai the Kamal Joshi who raised an amazing woman & sherni like Sai

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

Koi batayega ki Bhavu ke kaunse Zakhm abhi bhi hare hai? Uska Virat toh kaafi khush hai toh iske zakhm batao please

Kya pata unhone bhi do do biwiyaan rakhi ho at a time.

Shakal se seedha toh virat bhi lagta hai. Kaka ki bholi surat pe mat jao😉

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Originally posted by: sadiltl

Oh do you think so!? While finances might be the decision for not choosing the school, sai gave ample reasons why expensive schools are not her forte. Even if they were together, I see sai convincing virat for normal school. That’s what I felt. I thought the reasons she gave for opting normal school outweighed other reasons.

Sorry I don’t know anything about schools in india now but I hear exotic stories about expensive schools. Though I have wonderful examples of kids who studied in Ryan international and Oakland international schools getting into best universities in USA. Not sure how much they get into IITs though!! IIT JEE is the toughest exam to crack! I see kids from normal schools and good coaching cracking it. International school students come to US mostly if I am correct?! Not sure. Any idea?

See what I felt was .. Sai was targeting schools like narendra pur, KV and atomic energy wale schools ..some of these schools are famous for taking out brightest minds abd making them crack JEE ., but it not everyone ka cup of tea .. ..

if a child is just about average or below average in studies . Constant conversation about maths and science ( Olympiad, silverzone ) just psyches you out ..

Originally posted by: sadiltl

I thought he looked like snack today also!! ☺️

I am unable to critically review him on such days. Though today he understood one thing. He has to value Sai, and her decisions.

Aaadha aadha mehnat kiya Savi ko laane mein, so aadha aadha baatenge!! 🤣See how easily Sai agreed? Be Logical and Equal with her 🤣

She is not the patralekha, who is ok with the crumbs you throw. 😃

Normal people can't understand him 🤗.

They worked very hard🤣🤣☺️.

They used to spend a lot of time in their bedroom during surrogacy track☺️😉.

I loved his Bezaitti session today🥳🥳.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Virat's blazer was so pretty.

I think you agree @Rosyme

Where is my blazer buddy...? @Coolmeg missing you 💔

Isn't he looking good in today's episode?

Answer my question otherwise i won't talk to you😡.

Moor is ignoring me😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

https://twitter.com/abhirababy/status/1595315831394619392?t=FYYlNBWgqdAhyTlONuPm0A&s=19

Where's the lie 🤣

Meri Pyaari Cheez to Sai kisi aur ke bache ki ma nahi ban sakti

PS - I wasn't able to respond to anyone yesterday. Apologies. Will do so today. Hence, my thoughts here cover yesterday's episode as well.

To begin with let's talk about the premise of this show. Love vs Duty where duty takes precedence. Pre Leap we saw how Sai became love from duty. Post leap P has become duty and he is married to her.

Post-leap is a rehash of sorts. Creating situations and circumstances similar to pre leap, around the same theme. But how will that solve the purpose? There has to be some difference, because this is not a recreation, this is comparison, and difference!

Hence, I bring these two dialogues. The journey and the difference "Meri Pyaari Cheez" to "Woh kisisi aur ke bache ki maa nahi ban sakti"

Let's just analyse the dialogues. The former was meant for P, and is a very direct expression of V's feelings. Whereas, the latter is for Sai, and does not imply on V..not directly. It is about Sai.

But that is what is interesting. It is one thing to express what someone means to you. But what happens when one vouches for someone else’s feelings for them. If V is committed to P and has nothing to do with Sai, why would he make such a statement about Sai? Why not about himself like he did about P once? Is it because he has no feelings for her? Then why bring it up in the first place? It is an observation one has which is inconsequential to him in his current circumstances. Only if that has a correlation with his own feelings.

Now let’s look at how it started.

P was married to Sam, who went MIA for a year. But V though heartbroken, never enforced any rights on her. She was a friend and wife of his brother. I agree we have had our issues with him about maintaining boundaries. But in his limited understanding of boundaries and intentions he never let any of his past linger on between P and him. Even when P tried to, he was either didn’t get her meaning or he would reprimand her and ask her to keep herself in check.

When V met Sai after leap, she had a child. And there were signs that she had moved on with someone. V’s insecurities and jealousy only strengthened those doubts. Yet, he was constantly seeking answers from her as husband. Why I say husband and not lover is his actions which clearly came from a person who felt he had the rights to do so..like a husband. How can he question Sai if he is married to P. Just like when Sai was a responsibility and not love, he never exercised any rights on P, why did he not maintain the same rules when P is his wife (responsibility) and Sai is Ex-wife? Is that not infidelity? How will the same person behave so differently in the same circumstances. How are his rules and ethics changing? Can we credit this to character arc? I doubt!

Here, we need to note that Sam was not there and Sai was not interested. They had a deal marriage, and it had an expiry date. So she was no hindrance, yet his feelings for P died a rather quick death. Despite P being around he still fell for Sai.

Now Sai was not physically there for so many years. The circumstances favoured him to rekindle and move on. Yet he was unable to do so with P.

Now see the power and hold Sai and her love has. P was always around, but even her presence could not make him be in love or fall in love with her again. But V could never get over Sai even in her death.

There was only one fight I recall where V could not deny his feelings for P, and he had a slip of tongue. But he got over her rather quickly. But her Sai he has never been able to deny his feelings. His words, his actions, directly or indirectly spoke for his feelings for Sai.

Now let’s delve more into those dialogue. “Sai kisi aur ke bache ki maa nahi ban sakti. Wo aisa kabhi nahi kar sakti”.

He called P “his pyari cheez” in front of Sai. Someone who was aware of his past and who would not have any qualms about him pining over someone. Yet he fumbles. He was unable to complete the sentence. Because he felt it was wrong.

But when declared Sai’s loyalty to him, he didn’t flinch or stammer once. Nor did he regret it for a second. No after thoughts. And he spoke this in front of his entire family who wanted him to move on from Sai.

While he was still nursing his broken heart over P, he always asked P to move on with Sam. Even when he requested her to marry Sam, he believed P was capable for loving someone else. Even later, he always encouraged P to look forward and give her marriage a chance. He always wanted P to move on..move on from him.

However, when it came to Sai, he was desperately looking for signs that she still loved him and has not moved on from him. And finally when he realised that she still loves him and will not love anyone else, he is content with that thought.

If he is married to P and has no plans of sharing a life with Sai, why would he openly make such a statement? And with such finality, that it will never change. He could have used a past tense instead. And leave the future possibility open. Should he not be convincing her to move on and find someone for herself. With the same perspective he had with P, after knowing about Sai’s feelings he should have tried to persuade her to forget him and start afresh. Is it because he loves Sai and does not want her to ever move on from him. Selfish love? Or he gets an ego boost from it? Or that he how his character has evolved? Or does he harbour the feelings with a hope of a future with her? If he can encourage P to move on and have a new life then why not Sai?

Coming to FBs. It is not that V-P don’t have any memories. But how fondly has he remembered them and for how long. We haven’t had much insight into V’s mind yet. But in the Monday episode FB, V is not awkward or unhappy about recalling those moments. There is a slight smile, but no tears or regret of loss. Whereas the brief period where he recalled his moments with P, he cried for the loss. Because he never hoped to get back.

Tuesday’s episode had him convincing P and BK. Expected. And Kheer feeding bang on predicted by Sadhika!

Another parallel. The FB and then V feeding P. See the difference so starkly evident. Sai-V scene has love, V-P scene felt like he was pacifying a sulking neighbours kid. Also treat hers issues and concerns in a similar, strategical manner. But with Sai it is care and concern. The bruise on the hand was noticed and the mask slipped a bit.

V understands P very well, because she is like him. And she is very vocal about her feelings. Yet why would he ignore her direct and indirect hints about her feelings? Why is he awkward about facing this topic with her if he intends to live his life with her? Or does he plan to continue the same conditions as he loves Sai? Why would he do that? To punish Sai, himself and Savi?

If we observe the conversation, he only addresses Vinu’s issue and apologises for it. He does not consider P or her feelings as a wife. Because she is still a wife on paper (or just conditions). And he manipulates her. Uses emotional blackmailing. Walks of saying “I thought you will stand by me”. Giving her the carrot that he trusts her. Because he knew exactly where her thoughts are. And he had no plans of addressing them. Why not if he intends to move on from Sai, with her?

And he uses the similar tactic with BK. Gives her what she wants. Sai is her threat, and he denies any plans on getting back with her. He knows that no amount of talking can convince BK about Sai. But he gives assurance there by being on her side. Savi is his means to do that job. Once BK is convinced about Savi, Sai will get accepted automatically.

Surprisingly in both these cases he walks after throwing his game on them. But he does not do that with Sai. He doesn’t walk away or beat around the bush with her. He says things as they are. Like one would speak to their own..their spouse. He doesn’t try to emotionally blackmail her, when he knows that he has that hold on her. In fact he fight with her. Going by his way of dealing with people, should he not be dealing with Sai with a more guarded approach. But instead of convincing her, or talking to her, he argues and fights with her. No sweet talk. Is it only because Sai won’t fall for it? Or that is one person he is truthful with? And he never walks away from her like he does with P. He faces her.

Because, P’s issues are inconsequential, but his relationship with Sai and the issues between them are important and need to be addressed.

Neither Sai nor V were wrong in their stand, but they are operating from two different tangents. Hence unable to understand the other. Sai had mentioned to V that she cannot afford a lavish lifestyle for Savi. So he feels that Sai has financial constraints and hence she hasn’t sent Savi to school. But he is not considering that fact that someone like Sai will never neglect her daughter’s education at any cost. He only wants Savi to have the best education and contribute where he feels Sai is falling short (money). However, he does not understand that money can’t buy education, and hence it is about the school faculty and methodology that matters. On the other hand, Sai is offended by V’s thought process that she can’t afford Savi’s education and she has not prioritised it. And she wants to bring up Savi on her own. While she will get her the best education she will ensure that it is affordable and Savi does not face any complex issues with other kids. She till now had not factored V in Savi’s upbringing financially. And even if she wants to be careful in the long run, that too is fine. She is just being careful, incase tomorrow situation changes and V is not able to support.

The only point was, that they did not have to bring their ideology and ego clashes in public. But the point is would V have heard Sai’s arguments and trusted her. V always sees Sai as someone less experienced than him. Immature. First it was as a DIL, then wife and now as mother. He feels that she is a first time mother without any support and experience. And with Vinu, V is more experienced in that area.

Sai was planning to send Savi to school. So she got her admission done. Point, she now plans to stay in Nagpur. She has accepted that part. And she has got Savi admitted in Virat’s school. Are you sure Sai? After knowing about his fake qualifications can you take such chances?

So the sole point was that if they can attain a certain stature in their life, by going to a less expensive school, then so can Savi. But times have changed and so have the needs and demands of today’s children. That is a separate discussion.

Anyways V was gloating. He was a proud father and was indirectly impressed with Sai when the principal praised Savi and her upbringing. But in this whole ego trip, he lost the opportunity to participate in Savi’s admission process.

Savi is a child prodigy, So the principal is ready to admit her in 3-4 grade which is 1-2 grade higher. Which means Savi is 7 years old approximately and it has been more than 7 years since V-Sai separated. Also, the principal points that she can even be in Vinu’s class. One, do they not prefer to have siblings/twins in separate sections? And does she mean that Vinu is probably in 5th grade? That makes for a 3 year gap between them. How can Vinu then be OG Vinu then?

The spoiler talks about a fight between Vinu-Savi. I do feel P will have a role to play. But this may have to do with Vinu getting transferred to Savi’s school. They are different in their personalities and how they have led their loves so far. Vinu is already comfortable in his school and the environment there. Savi on the other hand can adjust in the school of Sai’s choice. But Vinu may find it difficult and he may not like it. For him, it is like “Why should I change my school?” “Why should I leave my friends?”. This could possible be the reason for their first squabble as siblings.

Post leap when we saw Ashwini being so hateful towards Sai, I had said that she is angry. Angry at Sai for dying. Because she deprived her of her daughter. Her son of his wife. So she was angry at Sai for causing her, her own death and the subsequent pain for Ashwini & V. Today, Ashwini’s justification seemed to imply the same thing somewhere.

But why is it difficult to believe Ashwini justification now? It does apply to some extent here. I will disregard Ashwini’s words to Sai. In anger you tend to say very mean things to your closed ones. V-Sai did that a lot. But, Ashwini accepted P whole heartedly and placed her over Sai. The same P who caused so much hurt to Sai the one she is claiming to be her daughter. Can a mother ever forgive such a woman? Can she favour such a woman over her daughter?

And most importantly. What brought such a change of heart? It was not a organic one. Not a “Time heals” story. She only changed because Sai is now the mother of her grandchild. Her emotions for Sai are dependent on how she benefits her. If she has no value, Sai is worse than a stranger!

Coming to P. She can scream as much as she wants that she is concerned about Vinu. And is only thinking about his welfare. Her reasoning also to some extent were valid. But V was also right. There are couples who have children from ex-spouses. And they co-parent. The kids are also aligned accordingly. It is not an unusual scenario. And they can’t expect to keep this hidden from the world. You just learn to address them.

Sai's point is slightly different for P. Sai is looking at P's insecurity and how it will complicate V's married life and Vinu as he may feel insecure too once Savi's secret is out

However, the problem is P is insecure for herself. As she sat recalling the day’s incidents she only thought about Sai, the importance given to her. Her whole anger was towards that. And she diverted it on Vinu. Because that is the only way she could pick this up with V. However, V knew that P was insecure about Sai.

V will try to do the same thing with P that he tried to do with Sai. Force his decisions. But this time P may not yield. However, she cannot be very vocal either, considering her insecurities about pushing V away. Hence the promo where she tries to make Sai leave.

Like I mentioned two days back. The café convo is not a result of the accident (spoiler). P is only using it to get through to Sai and convince her. Her trigger is V spending the night at Sai’s place. So we will have to wait and watch if Sai falls for it, or refuses for V’s sake. V misunderstands Sai or has a clear idea of P’s game plan.

Today the family teams are beginning to build up, and there are clear signs of a split. Omi and Sonali may soon want to separate.

But I’m amazed at the language. They use such crass language for Sai. And they do that for Savi too. Disgusting. And they call themselves rich and sophisticated. No class, only crass.

The bomb will fall tomorrow. They were overjoyed that Savi is not going to Vinu’s school assuming that she failed. But V cleared that Savi passed the test. Tomorrow, they will know about the extraordinary brilliance too. Can Bk now acknowledge at least Savi got her mother's intelligence?

I’m not sure what is the game plan, and V is indeed playing one. I have no conclusions to make either. Only a few loop holes and gaps that I’m trying to put together. While the way BK is blaming Sai for causing them so much miseries, the only way she and her gang can accept Sai wholeheartedly. For that they have to see the ugly side of P. The way V’s realisation came through JM, and we expect Sai’s to come through P, the family’s has to come through P. No amount of convincing in Sai’s favour will make them change their opinion. It has to somewhere be clear that P would have used OG Vinu (the way she will try to manipulate this Vinu) and would have not allowed Savi’s birth (by trying to harm her) to open their eyes.

For now it is V who has to keep switching sides and flipping across like a shuttle.

V could have revealed his identity to Savi when he got Sai arrested. He could have done than the noght he visited Sai's house. But he didn't. He would be planning on revealing it when "sahi waqt" arrives. But here, is he waiting for the "Sahi Waqt" or creating "Sahi mahaul/mauka" for Savi and Sai? While he fights his own war between duty and love. “Meri pyaari cheez” was long lost. “But mera pyaar”, “meri biwi” is now “Meri beti ki Aai”! That is definitely a progression.

My thoughts on the last 2 episodes on pg 18