Nobody to me vs I hate you Sai... - Page 2

Originally posted by: nikita05

Hellos,

I meant he wants to see her breaking down, to regret leaving him, like his family does, like he might/ might not be regretting (but would never accept it), at this point, it's just about him and her that he is important to her which he is not feeling because Sai is not breaking down, not demanding answers, not fighting him for her rights, not asking about who is Pakhi, rather wishing them well, and disowning him...he has lost her forever at this point and he can't take it.

I felt his doubt on Jags-Sai got cleared but not on Savi's dad because he is dumb...he is stuck that if Sai had his child why didn't she come back, now when Savi's truth comes out, he would feel Sai disowning him more that he didn't held any place in her life to share such a big news and child with him.

So if you're saying he's using reverse psychology then did he not continue doing that after he supposedly melted a bit after Dussehra kidnapping drama? Phir bhi he called P his wife corrected in her presence... I'm just not getting it what status name position Sai holds for him? Is it that Pakhi is wife but Sai is his love/lover for him & he's her lover...

Otherwise I'm not understanding any of it. Like do you think it Sai ends up blurting to him that she still loves him - hasn't and will not love anyone ever other than him what would he do then?

Another point if he's moving on & wants to work around with his marriage with P, why does it bother him if Sai has affair or anything with Jagtap in any capacity or he's father of Savi whatever.

Originally posted by: mysticriver

So if you're saying he's using reverse psychology then did he not continue doing that after he supposedly melted a bit after Dussehra kidnapping drama? Phir bhi he called P his wife corrected in her presence... I'm just not getting it what status name position Sai holds for him? Is it that Pakhi is wife but Sai is his love/lover for him & he's her lover...

Otherwise I'm not understanding any of it. Like do you think it Sai ends up blurting to him that she still loves him - hasn't and will not love anyone ever other than him what would he do then?

Another point if he's moving on & wants to work around with his marriage with P, why does it bother him if Sai has affair or anything with Jagtap in any capacity or he's father of Savi whatever.

Look, that part I think is because he is image conscious... people including Chavan family looking at them, media following them etc, he didn't want to upset anyone and also about Sai, he thinks she moved on and might feel bad to be associated with him, the convo with Vinu about his adoption stated the same, Savi ki aayi ko achha nahi lagega.

He wants Sai to beg him to take her back in his like P did, that will soothes his ego, plus it won't be him who crossed that line but Sai made him do that, so he remains Mahaan but one thing is clear that he can't leave P.

It's like he can do anything but she can't..she can't leave him or move on because she is his in his mind, Pakhi his wife for world, while Sai for him... But this part is really confusing, i don't know if i can really clarify because i myself am confused.

Originally posted by: nikita05

Same thing happened when V forced her to be back to Vinu in hospital after making her leave after insulting her, then Sai questioned him as a father, something like if he stood for her and Vinu a few years back, Vinu and their rishta would have survived, again he couldn't take this rejection and Sai pointing towards his mistake, making him guilty...P re-assured him about being the best dad to Vinu and he hugged her tight, same thing happened today... He is using P to boost his ego because Sai is too direct.

See at this point, it doesn't matter, they have TRP and this bigamy thing is getting them the highest rated show title, sometimes people wonder if it will surpass Anu aunty. Plus, V has done everything which an ML shouldn't except consummation.

See Chavans are accepted, their ZA gets them TRPs...new ML will be a different ball game, don't know if he and his family will be accepted or not...it's like bura hai bhala hai jaisa hai, mera ML devta hai..

They have misogynistic bunch of writers...aur likhkar de du, if they show Sai with V after so much and the moment this Sai-P confusion ends, they will sink in TRPs too, like happened with Udaariya...till the time there is confusion, there is curiosity and hence TRPs. After that no one accepts such loose character ML for their strong FLs.

I don't even want or care or looking forward to SaiRat reunion but I'm just thinking logically there are two biological SaiRat children, secondly as opportunistic & desperate Bubwarya are to get paired opposite eo as couple on-screen. This show isn't definitely for that... They're never gonna get accepted, or it'd benefit them at all in larger picture. They're never gonna be seen as couple on-screen even if they're couple irl... VP have nothing to offer as a couple or love story. Do they expect audience would watch their love life? And it'd mean eventually cost NB in losing his ML status. Is he willing to do so?

Originally posted by: mysticriver

So if you're saying he's using reverse psychology then did he not continue doing that after he supposedly melted a bit after Dussehra kidnapping drama? Phir bhi he called P his wife corrected in her presence... I'm just not getting it what status name position Sai holds for him? Is it that Pakhi is wife but Sai is his love/lover for him & he's her lover...

Otherwise I'm not understanding any of it. Like do you think it Sai ends up blurting to him that she still loves him - hasn't and will not love anyone ever other than him what would he do then?

Another point if he's moving on & wants to work around with his marriage with P, why does it bother him if Sai has affair or anything with Jagtap in any capacity or he's father of Savi whatever.

Vanraj got jealous over anupuma anuj relationship, he didn't like anupama moving on.

Does that mean he loves anupama? No.

His male ego got hurt that how could she leave him and lead happy life without him.

Same case with virat.

Men like Virat, vanraj want submissive wife, so them being happy without them will hurt their ego.

Whenever sai has tiff with virat, not once he said, she should be safe and happy with or without me, instead cursed her to lead lonely life.

While sai wanted him to be happy with shruti in shruti track despite thinking he cheated her and many such cases.

Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

@bold See being troubled with ex wife having relationship with someone has nothing to do with love.

Vanraj got jealous over anupuma anuj relationship, he didn't like anupama moving on.

Does that mean he loves anupama? No.

His male ego got hurt that how could she leave him and lead happy life without him.

Same case with virat.

Men like Virat, vanraj want submissive wife, so them being happy without them will hurt their ego.

Whenever sai has tiff with virat, not once he said, she should be safe and happy with or without me, instead cursed her to lead lonely life.

While sai wanted him to be happy with shruti in shruti track despite thinking he cheated her and many such cases.

Both virat and vanraj are thr representation of a section of guys...They just love their ego to be boosted..Vanraj could not take it that anupama was without her so is virat...Though i find vanraj bit better than Virat...he will protect Anu at least for the sake of his children but unfortunately virat is not..

If I go back to leena's version rono too was an arrogant man but his love for Emon was 10000000000000 times more than virat has for Sai...

Vanjer's writing is so misogynistic...he is just taking pleasure pulling down women so is star plus...Im not feminist but there should be something human in everyone..That part is missing in this show..Virat is not an human

Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

@bold See being troubled with ex wife having relationship with someone has nothing to do with love.

Vanraj got jealous over anupuma anuj relationship, he didn't like anupama moving on.

Does that mean he loves anupama? No.

His male ego got hurt that how could she leave him and lead happy life without him.

Same case with virat.

Men like Virat, vanraj want submissive wife, so them being happy without them will hurt their ego.

Whenever sai has tiff with virat, not once he said, she should be safe and happy with or without me, instead cursed her to lead lonely life.

While sai wanted him to be happy with shruti in shruti track despite thinking he cheated her and many such cases.

Don't think Virat & Vanraj's case is same. Vanraj has been shown evil, who has done plotted things deliberately to harm people. Here the narrative has been different not making defence for him but telling what they're showing. He hasn't shown to be having romantic interest in Pakhi. If he had gradually fallen for or moved on with P before Sai's arrival I could have believed that... Here they started this will he or won't he ever since he saw Jagtap with Sai... For him it didn't matter if she's given birth to someone else's child either... Here they're showing Virat is hurt as She is wishing them to be together & why she's not feeling hurt with seeing him with someone else when it affects him...

I would say the writers are confused themselves and Ph is unable to decide which route to take . Few episodes gives us the feeling that Sairat is dead and VP are coming closer and next few episodes makes it feel its other way around . I feel the lack of vision on how the story should proceed is causing this confusion and they are not putting their efforts . It’s like whatever we write we get trps so why bother .

I feel everyday the team puts a chit with Sai and Pakhi’s name . Whoever name is picked is the one Virat will end up with until next round .

Originally posted by: nikita05

Look, that part I think is because he is image conscious... people including Chavan family looking at them, media following them etc, he didn't want to upset anyone and also about Sai, he thinks she moved on and might feel bad to be associated with him, the convo with Vinu about his adoption stated the same, Savi ki aayi ko achha nahi lagega.

He wants Sai to beg him to take her back in his like P did, that will soothes his ego, plus it won't be him who crossed that line but Sai made him do that, so he remains Mahaan but one thing is clear that he can't leave P.

It's like he can do anything but she can't..she can't leave him or move on because she is his in his mind, Pakhi his wife for world, while Sai for him... But this part is really confusing, i don't know if i can really clarify because i myself am confused.

Hmm... My point is how would they make him flip towards Sai if SaiRat are to be together. What's gonna hit him in his head?

Idk I feel he doesn't seem romantically interested in Pakhi atleast so far. Also, with Jagtap as much as he says it's cus of KJ & Samrat but it's to due Jagtap loving Sai since the beginning was after Sai, that's why Sai being seen with any other man won't infuriate him as much as Jagtap would...

I'm still in shock to believe they're ready to destroy their creation which they took 600 episodes to built around.

Did ya notice how Pakhi was saying "haa main tumhari patni hoon" I found it hilarious as if khudko convince kar rahi ya sabko bata rahe the dono 😅

Originally posted by: mysticriver

Don't think Virat & Vanraj's case is same. Vanraj has been shown evil, who has done plotted things deliberately to harm people. Here the narrative has been different not making defence for him but telling what they're showing. He hasn't shown to be having romantic interest in Pakhi. If he had gradually fallen for or moved on with P before Sai's arrival I could have believed that... Here they started this will he or won't he ever since he saw Jagtap with Sai... For him it didn't matter if she's given birth to someone else's child either... Here they're showing Virat is hurt as She is wishing them to be together & why she's not feeling hurt with seeing him with someone else when it affects him...

Logically he should have burned in jealousy when he thought sai had kid with other man before knowing about jagtap.

Like the way sai was sad thinking he moved on even before knowing about pakhi being his wife.

But he was pretty normal. Just said u moved on but I didn't.

Him being normal over the fact that sai has kid with other man contradicts jealousy theory.

They showed scenes like Virat being close with pakhi to get sai reaction and out of angry on sai.

But there are other scenes too where they showed virat genuinely making move towards pakhi like feeding, emotional hug, allowing her to button his shirt as a wife, acting as couple comfortably in public like anniversary even before sai arrival.

At this point it looks like he wants both women.

Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

I won't say he loves pakhi. But at the same time can't say what he has for sai is love.

Logically he should have burned in jealousy when he thought sai had kid with other man before knowing about jagtap.

Like the way sai was sad thinking he moved on even before knowing about pakhi being his wife.

But he was pretty normal. Just said u moved on but I didn't.

Him being normal over the fact that sai has kid with other man contradicts jealousy theory.

They showed scenes like Virat being close with pakhi to get sai reaction and out of angry on sai.

But there are other scenes too where they showed virat genuinely making move towards pakhi like feeding, emotional hug, allowing her to button his shirt as a wife, acting as couple comfortably in public like anniversary even before sai arrival.

At this point it looks like he wants both women.

The last para you mentioned happened after he thought Sai moved on. But that doesn't mean I was okay with them not at all. Feeding was most unnecessary... I have seen SaiRat's reception party episode. Virat pretty much got over Pakhi so easily... He was admiring Sai since then. He was having bonhomie-ness with Sai publicly in reception party, I see no sadness in celebrating his reception where he just had his heart broken & lost his love just few weeks back. He used to get hurt with Sai treating him formally if I remember correctly or when on wedding day at CN she told him I'll be leaving this house someday. I just don't feel he was ever heartbroken much over losing Pakhi. His behaviour & actions didn't show anything. By the time of Pakhi's return to CN he was completely over Pakhi.

If I remember correctly at first time he remembered Sai couldn't conceive that's why he was wondering who this kid could be. When he got to know she's given birth, he was emotional & happy then went back to accusing her who's the father, tell me I've rights to know. If you don't remember in his conversation with Pakhi at Kankavali he'll go mad if he doesn't get answers from Sai over everything. After he came back. He was disturbed. Shivani, Ashwini noticed it. Pakhi knew the reason. He went psychotic & tore his family photo kept in his cupboard with Chotu Vinu Sai and him.. he lost his mind had flashback of Sai and Jagtap. Also the previous night he held Sai's hand so badly left scars, wasn't letting her go if Vinu hadn't come. He wanted answers. He told her I'm so pained cus of seeing & noticing your association with Jaggy. Why did he hold your hand.

I feel in Kankavali initially he was still functioning as Sai's husband, that's why he was showing his accusing her he won't let her treat him when she's hurt him with her words, then told her naraaz hona tumse seekha hai tumhe koi fark nehi padhta insaan til til ke mar raha ho... Also asked her to ask him questions about who's Vinayak etc, I've not denied. Whatever he was doing in Kankavali when P was at CN had it been any other woman I'd have felt bad for her... There was another line in car you thought I'm changed I haven't unlike you who changed just like her number.

Had he seen Sai with another guy he'd have felt jealous & heartbroken, couldn't have tolerated but he won't have become so mad insane cus it was Jagtap. The intensity is bigger just like Sai feels with P being that woman in Virat's life... It'd not have hurt her so much if it was someone else... Jagtap has loved Sai, wanted to marry her & so much history it'd not be same as Sai with any other man for Virat!

And if you love someone you'll feel bad or affected with their rude or words behaviour with you, I've never seen Virat getting hurt over any of Pakhi's actions cus he doesn't feel for her that way...