Pent up frustrations: Sai vs Virat

Sai: Extrovert, happy go lucky girl who doesn't keep anything inside...she just conveys all her feelings, happy, sad, disgusted everything. Actually, it is necessary to say out loud, that thing does remain in your head to play with your feelings and emotions, hence she doesn't have anything as such negative for anyone, not even for Pakhi didi (so far, after leap, has to be seen). She was perfect the way she was for her aaba, didn't have to prove anything to anyone, she had that confidence. Sai's little me is Savi.

Virat: that Mahaan image, the perfect Chavan beta, needs alot of patience to keep things inside him, he has to be mature, think twice before speaking, so can't speak or when he does, it's too late to make amends. And the things keep increasing inside him, to their threshold, after which he cannot take it anymore and bursts off. A typical introvert, ideal kid who turned out to be an adult trying to get accolades from his family, especially his father to tell him that he is proud of him. Virat lacked that confidence, for the need to appreciation in an abusive household. Virat's little me is Vinu.

People like him, need someone to vent out those feeling, that someone who can understand them, love them and not judge them, who make them feel loved, important, for Virat, that someone is Sai, so all his gussa is reserved for her. He understands everyone but Sai needs to understand him. He is not everyone/ anyone's priority, so he should be Sai's, when he is not, his fury meets no ends. Sai gave him that confidence, that freedom to be himself, the reason he fell in love with her...if his love is reserved for her, so does his anger too...

PS: not justifying him and his abuse, just a thought came to my mind, expressing it. Also he married Patralekha, i hope that they give some solid backstory, however, it might be due to family 's extreme pressure and him again being that submissive one, took their order/ suggestion because he might have been made to realise that how he was wrong in marrying Sai who killed their 'chirag' and how Patralekha was perfect who was such a Mahaan surrogate, to give birth to the child. Again, him not being expressive with anyone, not even Ashwini, gave in, again to make his family happy.

Yes thats how I understand them. 👍🏼

Virat chavan is a caged man because he is the eldest son of a big joint family. He has the burden to set example. Not falter. Think about others before taking a decision. Put others before himself.

Sai is a free bird, she makes choices without any baggage. She subjects everyone to same rules and logic. Even herself. :) And expects same kind of appreciation that she gets from her father.

These two when asked to live together will face friction, obviously. Virat can never become as independent as Sai, and Sai can never be dependent on others. They are not wired or raised like that.

They have to compromise for each other's sake and find a middle ground going against their nature sometimes.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Yes thats how I understand them. 👍🏼

Virat chavan is a caged man because he is the eldest son of a big joint family. He has the burden to set example. Not falter. Think about others before taking a decision. Put others before himself.

Sai is a free bird, she makes choices without any baggage. She subjects everyone to same rules and logic. Even herself. :) And expects same kind of appreciation that she gets from her father.

These two when asked to live together will face friction, obviously. Virat can never become as independent as Sai, and Sai can never be dependent on others. They are not wired or raised like that.

They have to compromise for each other's sake and find a middle ground going against their nature sometimes.

Exactly it's better to vent up from time to time, but the ones who can't, when they do, they can destroy themselves and everyone around in anger because the magnitude increases. That's what is Virat. Sai keeps venting from time to time, so her anger is kind of manageable, also expected from her. From Virat, that kind of reaction is not valid.

Actually same with Pakhi, never seen her in her natural avatar, she always is so fake and dolled up, plus the actor playing her doesn't help as well, so all her crying, angry scenes come out so fake.

Originally posted by: nikita05

Sai: Extrovert, happy go lucky girl who doesn't keep anything inside...she just conveys all her feelings, happy, sad, disgusted everything. Actually, it is necessary to say out loud, that thing does remain in your head to play with your feelings and emotions, hence she doesn't have anything as such negative for anyone, not even for Pakhi didi (so far, after leap, has to be seen). She was perfect the way she was for her aaba, didn't have to prove anything to anyone, she had that confidence. Sai's little me is Savi.

Virat: that Mahaan image, the perfect Chavan beta, needs alot of patience to keep things inside him, he has to be mature, think twice before speaking, so can't speak or when he does, it's too late to make amends. And the things keep increasing inside him, to their threshold, after which he cannot take it anymore and bursts off. A typical introvert, ideal kid who turned out to be an adult trying to get accolades from his family, especially his father to tell him that he is proud of him. Virat lacked that confidence, for the need to appreciation in an abusive household. Virat's little me is Vinu.

People like him, need someone to vent out those feeling, that someone who can understand them, love them and not judge them, who make them feel loved, important, for Virat, that someone is Sai, so all his gussa is reserved for her. He understands everyone but Sai needs to understand him. He is not everyone/ anyone's priority, so he should be Sai's, when he is not, his fury meets no ends. Sai gave him that confidence, that freedom to be himself, the reason he fell in love with her...if his love is reserved for her, so does his anger too...

PS: not justifying him and his abuse, just a thought came to my mind, expressing it. Also he married Patralekha, i hope that they give some solid backstory, however, it might be due to family 's extreme pressure and him again being that submissive one, took their order/ suggestion because he might have been made to realise that how he was wrong in marrying Sai who killed their 'chirag' and how Patralekha was perfect who was such a Mahaan surrogate, to give birth to the child. Again, him not being expressive with anyone, not even Ashwini, gave in, again to make his family happy.

But, Virat is a complex character. Lots of grey . As you said, he can be considered as 2 Virat Chavans. One for Sai, and the other one for the rest of the world.

Sai's Virat is just V himself, no masks, no filters. No baggage, no burdens, and he strives to be like her.

But with others, he is very guarded and pretentious and always careful to have that mask on.

His character is such that he yearns for that undivided attention from Sai and when he doesnt get that he gets pushed to the "darker" side !

Honestly, I am not sure if they ever showed that Sai has realised this. Actually after remarriage, he kept on repeating to her that he is on saatva aasman because she said she only loved him and no one else. I am not sure if that got registered in Sai's head that validation and acceptance from Sai is the most important thing in his life!

Do Virat Chavans exist in real life ? Actually Yes!

Originally posted by: xfiles

This is the exact profile of both Leads! You got it right. Sai is a very simple, straight forward girl. So its easy to understand her . She is white and no grey. Thats why she could connect with viewers and they fell in love with her.

But, Virat is a complex character. Lots of grey . As you said, he can be considered as 2 Virat Chavans. One for Sai, and the other one for the rest of the world.

Sai's Virat is just V himself, no masks, no filters. No baggage, no burdens, and he strives to be like her.

But with others, he is very guarded and pretentious and always careful to have that mask on.

His character is such that he yearns for that undivided attention from Sai and when he doesnt get that he gets pushed to the "darker" side !

Honestly, I am not sure if they ever showed that Sai has realised this. Actually after remarriage, he kept on repeating to her that he is on saatva aasman because she said she only loved him and no one else. I am not sure if that got registered in Sai's head that validation and acceptance from Sai is the most important thing in his life!

Do real life Virat Chavans exist in real life ? Actually Yes!

He craves for that person who is just his and that is Sai, Sai doesn't realise this, that's also because of his Mahaan syndrome of 'helping' bhabhis, so she is also insecured. They are in a very complex relationship.

Originally posted by: nikita05

He craves for that person who is just his and that is Sai, Sai doesn't realise this, that's also because of his Mahaan syndrome of 'helping' bhabhis, so she is also insecured. They are in a very complex relationship.

I am sure we have seen such couples around. If they cannot strike that balance, these relationships will either end up in divorce or continue to be toxic and destructive to each other.

Originally posted by: xfiles

Complex and destructive too, if not handled well. Both partners need a lot of maturity and understanding for such a relationship to work well.

I am sure we have seen such couples around. If they cannot strike that balance, these relationships will either end up in divorce or continue to be toxic and destructive to each other.

Sai is certified immature, but for me, Virat hasn't grown up as well (being a 50 year old man), he is emotionally very weak. Two immatures volatile people can be there in a volatile relationship only, or maybe end it but it's the way I see it, it is difficult for these emotionally weak people to end the relationship and separate too.

Originally posted by: nikita05

Sai: Extrovert, happy go lucky girl who doesn't keep anything inside...she just conveys all her feelings, happy, sad, disgusted everything. Actually, it is necessary to say out loud, that thing does remain in your head to play with your feelings and emotions, hence she doesn't have anything as such negative for anyone, not even for Pakhi didi (so far, after leap, has to be seen). She was perfect the way she was for her aaba, didn't have to prove anything to anyone, she had that confidence. Sai's little me is Savi.

Virat: that Mahaan image, the perfect Chavan beta, needs alot of patience to keep things inside him, he has to be mature, think twice before speaking, so can't speak or when he does, it's too late to make amends. And the things keep increasing inside him, to their threshold, after which he cannot take it anymore and bursts off. A typical introvert, ideal kid who turned out to be an adult trying to get accolades from his family, especially his father to tell him that he is proud of him. Virat lacked that confidence, for the need to appreciation in an abusive household. Virat's little me is Vinu.

People like him, need someone to vent out those feeling, that someone who can understand them, love them and not judge them, who make them feel loved, important, for Virat, that someone is Sai, so all his gussa is reserved for her. He understands everyone but Sai needs to understand him. He is not everyone/ anyone's priority, so he should be Sai's, when he is not, his fury meets no ends. Sai gave him that confidence, that freedom to be himself, the reason he fell in love with her...if his love is reserved for her, so does his anger too...

PS: not justifying him and his abuse, just a thought came to my mind, expressing it. Also he married Patralekha, i hope that they give some solid backstory, however, it might be due to family 's extreme pressure and him again being that submissive one, took their order/ suggestion because he might have been made to realise that how he was wrong in marrying Sai who killed their 'chirag' and how Patralekha was perfect who was such a Mahaan surrogate, to give birth to the child. Again, him not being expressive with anyone, not even Ashwini, gave in, again to make his family happy.

Sai had summed it up on the first day in CN. When Ashwini was pressurizing for marriage rituals, Sai mind talk, enhe kuch karne ka mann nahi hai toh maan kyo jaathe hai, manaa kyo nahi karthe (not exact words but something like that).

But the problem is that V doesn't act as if his love is only reserved for Sai, the way his anger is. He goes above and beyond for criminals, immoral people like Sada, Shruti, PP but when it comes to his wife - she's supposed to "understand". After everything he did in surrogacu track- months of pain how was he expecting Sai to not leave if pp was around?!

His love is for all- family, friends, strangers, children and Sai is one of many. But anger is only for Sai.

when Sai did things like make a decision to stand by shivani, devi or meet ajinkya/aniket, or even give his gift to bk- he was wildly possessive, upset, jealous and angry. He over reacts all the time and is easily forgiven but when she does 10% of it he cant handle it.

This extreme behavior is toxic. But from a viewing standpoint it would still be ok if we saw Vs crazy, dedicated, shiddat love in all its glory. Bit reality is that he has been mute too often. So where's all that "love" he claims he has ?

The only gesture i loved was Virat Sai Chavan which was truly something that was unexpected, big demonstration of love, but now thats a faded memory....

I'd be more understanding of his anger if his love was also equally passionate

His love is very understated, so much that until Sai started to love him she never recognized his feelings or believed that he could see her as a wife.

His anger is a volcano and his love is a phuski bomb.

Thats the issue.

Yesterday his soul/imagination version says to Sai how he died a thousand deaths, how he felt hopeless, how he was waiting to die to be reunited with her - have we really seen that depth of feeling from him to justify such claims?

They rushed the post Sai death to literally 5 min scenesm one of him screaming Sai and collapsing and then sadly doing a hawan. And even now post leap his nostalgia about Sai is force-fitted. Not one scene of him just locking himself up and weeping! Not one scene of him talking out loud to her photo asking Sai to come back to him. Rather he's guilty and apologetic about thinking of her constantly.

When they omit all his love, longing, passion on what basis is the audience supposed to root for him, feel for him?!

They may now show a few FBs of it in upcoming episodes but i just know that its gonna be rushed.... Its all an after thought. They've missed the bus. Adding a FB or two now after we see him with pp-vinu even if its a complex weird relationship is not as impactful.... it looks like a lollipop.

Why didn't they spend 2 episodes at least on Sai death and Vs feelings?! Why rush it?! That was a huge deal! Even now look at all the times he remembers Sai.... Its so abrupt. Why not just show a solo scene of him in the bathroom weeping under the shower. Why not give a dream scene of V hallucinating Sai around him and breaking down when he realizes its fake. Why not show him listen to her voice in a recorded message she sent him.... Maybe a long ago voice note of her saying i love you.

When he regrets Sai leaving and him not stopping her he doesn't recall his harsh words. He told her she was an orphan, home breaker, a bojh....

I genuinely want to ask the people that are trying to find a defense or explanation for V or maybe even just trying to give him a chance because the story demands it- are you doing so because we all know Sairat is endgame and so convincing ourselves V loves Sai gives us all hope, or are you seeing any objective scenes to show this immense love/longing he has....

Because I also want to believe that he only loves Sai.that he craves for her. Sairat are soulmates. I want to see a happy family of 4, both of them successful professionally and personally being each other's cheerleaders. But what we get of V is SO underwhelming to me that when people say V is so passionate about Sai- I want to believe it but I cant!

Where are all the scenes to show this love V has for Sai.... The intensity is missing in love but is like 5x when he's angry!

Is it true PH changed the writer ? If they really did i hope they are not bhabhi lovers, god i am sick of listening to pakhi jaap, from a blogger she became a busy business women this is too much to handle, and ashwini she has completly lost it , She proved that she is just a mil to sai and not a mother like she use to always say, Her true face is showing up.

I hope the new writers won't make sai do pakhi jaap , that after she left the house pakhi became mother thersa sacrificing her life for CN.

Sai should never forgive virat who choose bhabhi over his wife and son and pakhi who is the reason for all her misery.

Hoping if they really changed the writer , these people will not mess up the show like the previous ones and they will give some spine to VC