GHKPM WU & Episode daily discussion thread #64 - Page 40

Originally posted by: Moor278

I believe this has to do with the male gaze and female gaze of the writers and creatives more than anything else.

How cinema and shows by female writers and directors have a more nuanced and emphatic view to emotions and hidden feelings.

And how mostly even male characters written by them turn out much more sensible and mature.

Two great examples would be Iqbal (Vickys character in Raazi) and Sunny (Farhans in Dil Dhadakne Do).

Surprisingly, this should have meant Vankar writing V better than others. But all he comes across is problematic. Probably the translation from Leena's Rono to Vankars Virat is the issue... Keeping in mind the context, target audience and his own mindset

Yes agree.

But if Virat was like this with everyone, it would have made sense. But he is so considerate n empathetic with other women, his family but totally opposite with Sai. So these writers are aware of sensitive side of men but only when it is about ‘another’ women. Basically they show how to take your wife for granted, manipulate her, abuse her, indulge in subtle EMA while blaming wife n make it look like her fault when she retaliates.

Virat character is written by a narcissist.

I really wish they end this by showing Virat realize he was wrong in how he treated Sai and Sai falling out of love. This aint love. Since anniversary track the man is doing one thing after another that is hard to look over and ship him.

And V-stans dam bhar rahe hai of still shipping SaiRat as if they have a better option than Sai for their demigod, seeing his choice in women...Sai coming to his life was an accident which turned into a disaster for her.

Originally posted by: Sab04

Yes agree.

But if Virat was like this with everyone, it would have made sense. But he is so considerate n empathetic with other women, his family but totally opposite with Sai. So these writers are aware of sensitive side of men but only when it is about ‘another’ women. Basically they show how to take your wife for granted, manipulate her, abuse her, indulge in subtle EMA while blaming wife n make it look like her fault when she retaliates.

Virat character is written by a narcissist.

I really wish they end this by showing Virat realize he was wrong in how he treated Sai and Sai falling out of love. This aint love. Since anniversary track the man is doing one thing after another that is hard to look over and ship him.

After Imon leaves Ronno the last time on the show Ronno does admit he's always wronged Imon & taken her for granted by himself let's see what they show here for Rat Boi.

Originally posted by: mysticriver

After Imon leaves Ronno the last time on the show Ronno does admit he's always wronged Imon & taken her for granted by himself let's see what they show here for Rat Boi.

Never, pyaari cheez ko bura lag jaayega

Originally posted by: mysticriver

After Imon leaves Ronno the last time on the show Ronno does admit he's always wronged Imon & taken her for granted by himself let's see what they show here for Rat Boi.

Ofcourse it will be same thing.

But stuff they show Virat do before that in name if farz will be unpardonable for audience. I think they are actually taking that ending from KD for granted n making Virat stoop lower n lower in each track.

Basically Virat wont completely untangle himself from PL till she herself frees him. No matter what he claims, he wont move on from PL till she moves on from him. In their mess Sai suffers..

Bas if they kept narrative same instead of showing Virat n Sai in love, n making tall claims of diwano wala pyaar and all it would have looked more appropriate. His behavior is consistent per creative’s vision just that he is given dialogues about loving Sai to appease n entice audience time to time.

I think that is the narrative they told to entire cast, PL ghum in Virat’s love, Virat pulled back to her always (no matter what he says) and Sai is collateral damage.

Can we have someone Ashwini or Sai herself, explaining him that P was his true love all alone and that what he felt for Sai was just responsibility and lust, the reason he couldn't move on from P or let her go even after those many years, having children or having known P's intentions and actions all through.

Achcha I haven’t seen the episode. Celebrating Independence Day today ekdum shanti see

Originally posted by: Sab04

Ofcourse it will be same thing.

But stuff they show Virat do before that in name if farz will be unpardonable for audience. I think they are actually taking that ending from KD for granted n making Virat stoop lower n lower in each track.

Basically Virat wont completely untangle himself from PL till she herself frees him. No matter what he claims, he wont move on from PL till she moves on from him. In their mess Sai suffers..

Bas if they kept narrative same instead of showing Virat n Sai in love, n making tall claims of diwano wala pyaar and all it would have looked more appropriate. His behavior is consistent per creative’s vision just that he is given dialogues about loving Sai to appease n entice audience time to time.

I think that is the narrative they told to entire cast, PL ghum in Virat’s love, Virat pulled back to her always (no matter what he says) and Sai is collateral damage.

Originally posted by: Sab04

Ofcourse it will be same thing.

But stuff they show Virat do before that in name if farz will be unpardonable for audience. I think they are actually taking that ending from KD for granted n making Virat stoop lower n lower in each track.

Basically Virat wont completely untangle himself from PL till she herself frees him. No matter what he claims, he wont move on from PL till she moves on from him. In their mess Sai suffers..

Bas if they kept narrative same instead of showing Virat n Sai in love, n making tall claims of diwano wala pyaar and all it would have looked more appropriate. His behavior is consistent per creative’s vision just that he is given dialogues about loving Sai to appease n entice audience time to time.

I think that is the narrative they told to entire cast, PL ghum in Virat’s love, Virat pulled back to her always (no matter what he says) and Sai is collateral damage.

Ronno was like that only. Ronno literally told Imon to come into THEIR room after some time when he was having a conversation with Shruti in second Shruti track. Also, Ronno treated Imon like crap right after RK's pregnancy track & fell into RK's manipulation. He was so nasty.

Originally posted by: mysticriver

Ronno was like that only. Ronno literally told Imon to come into THEIR room after some time when he was having a conversation with Shruti in second Shruti track. Also, Ronno treated Imon like crap right after RK's pregnancy track & fell into RK's manipulation. He was so nasty.

Uhh but from what I read, he maintained physical boundaries. No matter what people say, to me he did let Shruti cross that. And god knows what will be coming now. No hopes.
But ya if not Virat worst than Rono, he is equal to him. No matter what, I hope they change narrative and atleast show them fall apart after all this since it being aired on national television.
Or if they want TRP to retain, this can be a reset in story. They can show them fall apart, n fall back in love- This time no PL n vaadas in picture. I am just against this whitewashing n glorification of domestic abuse in name of live.