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Posted: 3 years ago
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So here is a fundamental question I have.

I am most bothered by this aspect that makers show.

Why is V shown to trust PP so much when literally he only knew her for 2 days, didn't even know her full name and over time he has only seen her deterioration over time. There's no strong padt relationship they share, neither any precdent of her being "good".

If V thought she was mature before, ghkkpm timeline is enough to establish that she is hateful, vengeful, immature, jealous, hypocritical, shallow and not in the least bit honest. And V has seen that evolution

So What exactly has she done to earn his trust?!

Just because he loved Sam, Sam was her husband and is now dead, and she fakes tears about how she did NOT give him a chance, is that enough reason to trust her?!

Isnt he an IPS officer who is supposed to be able to read people accurately?!

Also When a person you love like your parents or spouse or sibling repeatedly warn against a person and hint to keep that person at an arms length, why would you disregard that?

In this story, Ashwini, Ninad, Mohit, Devi abd obviously Sai have been pretty *fairly*consistent about raising doubts on PP. Repeatedly.

Yet V disregards it all. Its not just Sai. Its other people he should be close to- his sister Devi who despite her mental illness is shown to be very perceptive abd pure hearted like a child - they say that children always sense bad vibes better than adults. Similarly even Ashwini Ninad are not vociferous but have been warning him. Ninad since he softened his stance has been pretty neutral- he told V that pp sent ajinkya to bedroom. He showed V the mirror when V started creating walls post miscarriage. And mohit- he has no gain. If he is shown to *fairly* consistently support Sai there should be a reason. How does he not reflect on that.

How has he not seen and recognized pp's patten of tears, emotional manipulation and Sai bashing till now?!

I see absolutely no reason for him to fall for pp SO easily.

At least if PP had played her cards better by focusing on Sai more than him to convince for surrogacy, faked more concern for Sai , been supportive towards Sai instead of continuing to take digs at her at least then her intentions may seem more genuine.

Before Sam death, pp was being extremely crass coming to lockup to bash Sai.

Post Sam death, she treated Sai SO SO badly in the guise of "grief". Only Sai. Not V. Even though she had equal reason to bash him too. But she only picked Sai.

But literally within a few days of her bashing Sai, slapping her, giving her baddua- she came back , pretended to be sorry and immediately again infringed on their privacy, took a dig at the sleeping arrangements, made public Sai- V private matters, walked into their bedroom too many times for it to be casual on various pretexts, made uninvited comments on Sai- Vs plan for baby and shot down Sai's surrogate idea only to turn around and BEG V to make her surrogate against Sai's wish. Then she promises Sai non interference in their life only to go behind her back and prepare herself for the procedure. How is V not in the least circumspect about the timing of everything?! How can he NOT doubt her intentions?!

Like it's way too many coincidences. C'mon. A blind person can see the pattern..

Even now with the whole signing paper drama, even if we assume he thinks Sai is being "rude and overbearing, controlling" with pp, how does he have no doubt about why PP is making such a big fuss. Why is she SO insulted that she cant just sign and get it over with? Aisa kya pareshaan kiya hai?! If her intentions are pure then whats the big deal in showing her "maturity". Why not create a fuss AFTER signing rhe papers about how hurt she is by such a demand etc etc. How does V not see that PP is also equally prolonging things unecessarily.

At least if pp had created a fuss but signed the papers to show her "badappan" to give tasalli to Sai and prive her intentions and then name called Sai it'd have been more "believable".

Because any Normal person in that situation who felt "insulted" at such insinuation or aspersions cast on their "noble intentions" would have said- this is affecting my self resoect but I will sign and prove my point. But pp did NOT do that..

V never questioned why PP didn't reveal her reports of her own accord. Sai got her hands on it but otherwise PP didn't say anything.

Normally we are blinded towards the flaws of ourselves and those we are very close to- family and friends. and if we see the flaws, we will make excuses for them. But here V does all that for PP. He always sees Sais flaws and nakes excuses for PP.

So i really dont understand why people justify V.

Because I really dont see any solid reason for V to trust PP at all.

The lustful advances, the unecessary touchiness, the constant Sai bashing- these are all major alarm signs for any normal person. But V is far too clueless even by itv standards.

I really cant buy the excuse that his "male" gender comes in the way of his perceptiveness or he is blinded only by emotions towards Sam.

Because if she was truly grieving Sam she would not find her lifes purpose by being surrogate. She'd do what Sam wanted... Like help orphan kids etc.

And this is all leaving aside the legal aspects that he as an IPS has completely glossed over way too casually. He has allowed utterly unlawful behavior repeatedly.

But just based on emotions, why exactly is V so lenient towards PP.

She has repeatedly interfered in his relationship with Sai.

She is a big reason for the MUs between them in the past.

She has never done ANYthing selflessly for anyone in the family of her own accord. She helped with devi-harinee because he asked her to. But otherwise she has only created roadblocks and hurdles.

She has never had one kind word for his wife.

Yet V directs ALL his accusations towards Sai being insecure and immature or spiteful

Even though Sai has an established track record of standing by PP even when she hates her. Whether that be bringing her back home more than once, taking care of pp after Sam death and even now running after PP about her health. Anything she has said has been in good interest of baby and PP. And he probably knows that Sai took a Stand for pp even about her getting all decked up against bk saying she is a widow but does not mean she cant move on.

Sai has even done the right thing for Shruti whom she thought was her sautan, Jaggu who is her fathers murderer.

So how does V always unfailingly trust others over Sai?!

Sais instinct has been spot on about so many things. Yet V has zero trust in her. Why?!

And why do they show Sai so forgiving of this behavior. I really want to see her confront him about this aspect of not trusting her... What love if he cant trust her?! What love if he doesn't ever see her pov?!

Is this dumbass and problematic behavior of V ahown just because they need to force fit Virat pp cringe because of offscreen stuff or is there any real rationale.

The two things that affect me most are Vs problematic, toxic , idiotic, abusive behavior which is glorified on the show repeatedly, never called out and then reading justifications of it by the audience - that too women audience members!

Audience is not Sai. Atleast Sai is in love with V and so as a character is blind and forgiving to his flaws to a large extent because thats what you do in love.

But audience is supposed to be objective.

How does anyone with any IQ and EQ defend a character like V?!

Even pp has a defense - the fact that she is consistently evil so when she errs you know shes capable of crap and so I actually have realized I am not surprised or affected by her behavior on the show. Same with bk, omi also.

but with V- he is the ML but he is projected as a hero unlike a Vanraj Shah or other antagonist MLs whose character sketch clearly shows them as being problematic. V is constantly put on a pedestal vut he is utterly utterly unworthy of it!

This show is SO problematic on SO many levels.

It'd have been fine if they showed V as a flawed guy who faces consequences but they show him as mahaan with ZERO repercussions.

Highly frustrating.

If they had fleshed out V properly, logocally, made him sensitive, this show despite all this surrogacy drama would have been watchable and engaging.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Your answer,



"Is this dumbass and problematic behavior of V ahown just because they need to force fit Virat pp cringe because of offscreen stuff or is there any real rationale. "



- I'm quoting you

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Posted: 3 years ago
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I am not sure if that should make me sad, angry or laugh out loud. because is it really worth this deliberate force fitting. Like aisa kya milta hai to sabotage a good show that can be enaging for petty, crass content by force fitting Virat PP cringe....

Dikhana hi hai triangle toh why not show V be a littles sensitive and empathetic

I would see his POV and be more forgiving if he had shown more perceptiveness and had genuine reason to back PP. but now it all looks so frickin stupid!

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nja91

I am not sure if that should make me sad, angry or laugh out loud. because is it really worth this deliberate force fitting. Like aisa kya milta hai to sabotage a good show that can be enaging for petty, crass content by force fitting Virat PP cringe....

Dikhana hi hai triangle toh why not show V be a littles sensitive and empathetic

I would see his POV and be more forgiving if he had shown more perceptiveness and had genuine reason to back PP. but now it all looks so frickin stupid!


At the starting it was still tolerable when Pakhi was just insecure & they got married initially when he was apparently in love with Pakhi then but right now it's just forced writing. They discarded so many stuffs when in OG Ronno had put RK into her place. Ronno's behaviour with same everyone whereas Virat has been made particular like this only with Pakhi & Shruti, he doesn't show the same leniency for Sai unless she does things in his accordance.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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1. Offscreen equation

2. Typical patriarchy. I don't know if you have observed around but it happens in India that till the time someone keeps bashing and blaming the wife or the family, children included, men tend to take it lightly, however, as soon as they target them directly, all skies go loose, seen in Virat 's case multiple times. Till the time, Virat is not targetted, he would be on bhabhi's side, once he is, he becomes extremely hateful and defensive.

Also Sai lacks that tact, she is extremely direct, it indicates to him that she is directly blaming him for the 'affair', hence Mahaan Virat Chavan can't take that question on his paal saaf character, so tries everything possible to protect himself, by protecting his pyaari cheez.

PP being BK's favourite, and BK being mukhiya also plays a role.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Answer is pretty simple

They have dumbed down Virat to be someone with the IQ of a 5 year old. He also suffers from severe amnesia, like the writers.


Offscreen se dekho tho, Dumb Virat = Issues between Sairat = No Sairat scenes = Potential for more Virakhi scenes

Patni khush, Pati bhi khush

Anyway viewers hate the character Paki. If Virat is shown this way, he too will be hated equally by viewers- which means both Pati and Patni are hated the same way- #MatchMadeInHeaven #CoupleGoals - peace @ home

Career jaaye bhaad mein who cares 🙄

The show is written just with 2 people in mind

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Sai is direct but I dont think she ever blamed him. Every time she questions PP intention she is NOT blaming him. ITs his own guilty conscience that he feels blamed. When Sai says she has a past with you and was obsessing over you, he immediately gets defensive. Why?! When she says he intention pertaining to surrogacy isnt right, he gets defensive, Why?

Its obviously because subconsciously he knows he is guilty of being too lenient with PP and has a soft corner for her but he cant admit it, face up to it and get over it! because no other reason that a man will be SO forgiving to a woman who has made his and his wife's life living hell!

Even if he felt like she is a changed leaf after Sam death, he would never trust her enough to let her get so involved in his matters that too willingly.

It would have made a WORLD of difference if this track had shown V being unaware of PP becoming surrogate and both Sai-V coming to terms with it together, if V also had some doubt about PPs intentions and being more sensitive towards Sai through out important sequences like pregnacy reveal, Sam death, the miscarriage, aftermath of miscarriage and surrogacy kaand.

If they had shown more emotional intimacy and honest conversations between Sai-V after shruti kaand and pp related MUs then one would feel more forgiving of V. But he has done NONE of those things.

they rushed thorough confession,Sai choosing career, his support for her during the medical negligence case and it didnt leave any impact on us. In all those scenes Sai was more impactful than V and we didnt see his protective, loving husband side. We only saw stupid machismo which landed him in jail and ultimately in all of it, Sao stepped up. It was V's turn to shine and it didnt happen. and then they used BDs for important scenes like pregnancy reveal. We didnt get any scenes of him pampering his wife, being protective. He let her handle all alone Sams death, her miscarriage. There was no protectiveness towards his wife.

And then he has disrespected her wishes, consent, reproductive right to support PP and unlawfully allowed it to happen, Instead of allowing her time to deal with it and vent, he calls her out as stubborn for being upset and blackmails/manipulates her to accept it and now when she is rolling with the punches, he still keeps on testing her tolerance and patience. Always second guessing her, getting angry at her, not valuing her concerns, brushing her away as "silly, delusional, rude and immature"

How do some people defend this guy. To me, He is worse than PP because he is SO inconsistent. When a criminal commits crimes you are not surprised. but when a guy whom you have expectations from because he is constantly hailed as mahaan keeps on erring that too with increasing magnitude of crimes committed, then it is unforgivable and indefensible.

Edited by Nja91 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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but is pandering to this couple so important that they are cool sabotaging show over it?!

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nja91

but is pandering to this couple so important that they are cool sabotaging show over it?!

I definitely don’t have access to what the real offscreen story is. But anyone can put two and two together and figure out this favouritism. Its too obvious to be missed. PH’s priorities are pretty much clear. They really don’t care about logic or what the viewers want. They keep pushing toxicity and negativity to the godawful limit.

Keeping fingers crossed for something positive to come out of the petition, complaints and trends. The team needs a tight rap on their heads to bring them out of their delusion

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Posted: 3 years ago
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theres definitely favoritism involved. but I cant understand why it is to this degree where it is sabotaging the show and the plot.

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