Does the baby deserve pakhi ka gutter jaisa kokh - Page 17

Originally posted by: Nja91

Sai shouldn't leave because of pp or family, she should leave because she realizes that she deserves better, a person and a family who will value her, her self respect, her ideals and person/people will support her without things reaching an extreme. Unfortunately Sai will never realize that because she lacks any examples that are better. In her limited world view things aren't necessarily any better outside plus over time she has got emotionally attached, manipulated and conditioned and now it's too late. Stockholm syndrome. The only thing is Sai's core personality is not like Ashwini. So she will tolerate but when things pile up she will have an outburst. And that can force her to get up and leave. Its many small things that are accumulating without any outlet. One day the volcano may burst. If V does some course correction, maybe it'll become a dormant volcano but if he doesn't fix himself then she will certainly burst!

To this I completely agree...

And I tried to rectify this in my FFs. RaYa and Sumit both have characters outside CN to guide Sai.

In the show she doesn't have anyone to help her.. and whatever sensible characters are in the show are just mere pieces of furniture. Except BK no one has a voice...

Otherwise a woman like Shivani with two failed marriages and multiple flings can definitely guide Sai about what to do and what not to do.

Pulkit is a good anchor but he too doesn't have a family so to say.

Sais friends have been completely skipped.

I would not go till Stockholm but yes... Sai doesn't have anyone to call her own. And she loves V for whatever reasons ... And is ready to tolerate the others for his sake. That's about it.

Ashwini belongs to a separate generation, neither she has education that she could have survived on her own. And once again, not everyone is capable of getting up and going away when things go wrong. People adjust with what they have and it's unfair for us to judge them.

Sai has the financial, educational capability and mental strength to walk away. Whether she wants to or not depends on her capacity to accept the stuff thrown at her.

Originally posted by: Nja91

I agree with most of this except the "doormat" part. Its too harsh. Yea she has been emotionally manipulated but she's the victim of circumstances, emotions, conditioning. She has tried to walk out and unfortunately she has no strong support. I'm confident that whatever she is tolerating will eventually reach a threshold and after that she will break and rise like a phoenix. She has chosen to put her faith in the institution of marriage and the man her father had trusted. But that doesn't make her a doormat. She still knows right/wrong, she is just deciding what to react to and what to let go because in her limited world view she has really no example of anything ideal, better. she has not seen her own parents marriage, not had close friends with ideal families, had conservative and fake neighbors/well wishers like GC folks and UM who treated her as a liability and a thing to be disposed of...she has grown up alone with sexual harassment by Jaggy for 1-2 years as a young adult. So her standards/bar are already low. V doesn't come across as a criminal on the outside like Jaggu but in reality he does much more emotional damage unwittingly because he never realizes how much his behavior can and has wounded Sai.

Ok she felt guilty for whatever reason, apologize and leave.

No need to reduce ur self worth to such extent.

On top of it she hails such person as best husband despite him treating her as trash many times. So she thinks it's okay to be treated like that which exactly makes her doormat for me.

I myself was huge fan of sai Joshi because I was able to sympathise with her and understand her. But shruti track ruined everything. The moment she equalised a dying police officer vaada with a nexilite vaada. And after the way she begged for everyone's forgiveness by forgetting her self worth. Again and again she whitewashes her abusers which made me completely disconnect with her.

She does not recognize it as "abuse". She felt extremely guilty and was led to believe that her impatience resulted in loss of trust and emotional damage. She's blinded by her love. She saw breaks in his facade and nobody supported her in that phase so she felt like she was wrong.. doormat i still think is too harsh a word.Sai's love is pure, very giving. Tomorrow if things reach a breaking point and she leaves also, her residual feelings will never fully go away. She will never trust. She will never forget . But for Sai - this is it. Pyaar, shaadi sab lifetime ke liye hai. If she reaches her tolerance threshold she will leave but sadly I don't think she'd ever be able to forget V coz thats who Sai is....

Originally posted by: Nja91

She does not recognize it as "abuse". She felt extremely guilty and was led to believe that her impatience resulted in loss of trust and emotional damage. She's blinded by her love. She saw breaks in his facade and nobody supported her in that phase so she felt like she was wrong.. doormat i still think is too harsh a word.Sai's love is pure, very giving. Tomorrow if things reach a breaking point and she leaves also, her residual feelings will never fully go away. She will never trust. She will never forget . But for Sai - this is it. Pyaar, shaadi sab lifetime ke liye hai. If she reaches her tolerance threshold she will leave but sadly I don't think she'd ever be able to forget V coz thats who Sai is....

She could have easily held virat responsible for going against law for a nexilite's wife who is nexilite herself.

But she choosed to hail him for it.

There is no way that she don't know what is right and wrong. But she choosed to turn blind wantedly for every shit happening to her. Because she wants virat even if it means going against law or reducing her self worth.

Yeah she don't have anyone to advice her. But in shruti track Pulkit multiple times told her to mind her own business instead of thinking about virat. But did she agree?

No. Forged documents to save his job, asked his family to accept him and his fake wife.

So she does things what she wants. Even if someone explains her clearly that she is in toxic relationship, she won't listen to them.

She wants to stay with Virat at the cost of reducing her self respect.

She may feel guilty, apologize but no need to reduce her worth to such extent.

Because if she leaves Virat, show mei kya dikhayenge. They will need two different units, bohot paisa jayega. That would be a big gamble na. The risk that producers don't want to try, probably. Separation dikhayenge but eventually they will be together

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

Because if she leaves Virat, show mei kya dikhayenge. They will need two different units, bohot paisa jayega. That would be a big gamble na. The risk that producers don't want to try, probably. Separation dikhayenge but eventually they will be together

In BALh leap was so short. Few episodes, they show baby and she s back.

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

Because if she leaves Virat, show mei kya dikhayenge. They will need two different units, bohot paisa jayega. That would be a big gamble na. The risk that producers don't want to try, probably. Separation dikhayenge but eventually they will be together

Showing virat as douchebag in every track and still making her say he is best husband is crap.

Make virat character better instead of making him sulk everytime.

They could have easily reunited virat sai after landmine scene instead of butchering both characters to such extent by making Sai go behind virat and him acting as trash.

Even if they copy kd blindly both characters would have got saved from this butchering.

Leena didn't make rono characterless or emon infertile to make third angle relevant.

She used third angle in better way.

There are 1000 ways to run the show but makers choosed most toxic way by butchering both leads. That's not okay.

Originally posted by: Rosyme

In BALh leap was so short. Few episodes, they show baby and she s back.

And right now they are competing against 5 more shows to be in the top 5 and more than 2 ratings. Koi producer story turnaround ka risk lega?

That was never accepted by the audience and yet the makers went ahead.

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

And right now they are competing against 5 more shows to be in the top 5 and more than 2 ratings. Koi producer story turnaround ka risk lega?

Few years back, story focussed only on leads and their journey. Like yrkkh they went to south africa, then 2nd part Goa and honeymoon abroad. BALh first part they showed Australia.

Now all stories only show torture of 3rd angle. Leads scenes r compromised.

Not only this one , all shows r same. Lead couple dont go for honeymoon also .

Now new trend FL is infertile.

This show 3rd lead torture s more due to favouritism. But other shows also show it a lot.