GHKPM WU and Daily Episode Discussion Thread #58 - Page 22

Originally posted by: Moor278

The problem with V is ki vo usually ek chij pakad ke baith jaata hai...

Like pre confession, he should have sensed Sai is treating him more than a husband but he held on to her deal word.

Post anniversary he held on to her words "kaisi anniversary or kaisa rishta"

Post fake divorce he held on to her reaction that she even thought of divorcing him...

Now he is holding on to Sam's words that P loved Sam and P is cleverly using them because clearly Sam to aayega nahi sach jhoot batane.

When V is in that mode, he doesn't listen to other POVs or is even ready to ponder over it.

Ashwini and Sunny has tried that many times.

Sai herself has tried that... But unless he hears the words clearly or something happens... He is not receptive.

The same thing is happening right now...

He believes P had moved on with Sam and was happy. That night trip post during Malhars death and Sam's dying statement in the car are the only truth for him right now. He won't see what Sai is telling him until he himself sees it clearly. Tab tak he will keep on favouring and trusting P.

The reason some of us are pissed off at this is V knows about P more than Sai. He has smartly hidden what P told him in cafe, he knows she still mops about him... Shivani bua ki shaadi tak she taunted him about the vaada. Post Sam's death P slapped Sai and wished for her death.

How and why he shouldn't he use his brains to think of all this and be okay with P being surrogate raises the question whether he is sensible enough??? He knows P doesn't like Sai or Sai doesn't like P. How can he believe that P suddenly cares about Sai and that she has no ulterior motive?

Acchha forget for a moment that he doesn't get it but he isn't even ready to accept what Sai is telling him so clearly???

He is supposed to be an IPS officer, he has training for exactly this. To study body language and read between the lines.

Moreover this is a man who changed his name for his wife, waited for her consent for consummation but doesn't wait for her consent for the surrogate??? Kaisa majak hai ye?

P.S. used to be a SaiRat fan.. still am... But V disappointed me the moment he agreed for P to be surrogate. That's a huge betrayal that's never gonna go.

It would have been better if it had happened behind his back. Or he had stopped the process till Sai comes.

But the way he desperately wanted her to be surrogate was so insensitive.

Sai choosed Geeta as surrogate but he suggested pakhi name even in hospital two times despite knowing pakhi is medically unfit. Is child important or pakhi being surrogate important?

Okay pakhi loves samrat. But does it undo the fact that he and pakhi shared a past and sai is uncomfortable with it. Most important pakhi hates sai, slapped her mercilessly when she was pregnant, cursed her.

How can anyone freaking forget these?

He told sai that kaku is forcing pakhi to be surrogate when few hours ago pakhi was begging him in police station. What audience supposed to feel for this character? It looked like he wanted pakhi to be surrogate that's why don't mind manipulating Sai by telling lies.

Most importantly his complete distrust on sai. Zero guilt over the fact that he betrayed her by violating her consent.

In mimo track too sai warned him, in shruti track he acted like he knows pakhi intentions. Then why did he act like he don't know about pakhi intentions in mimo track? Let's even say he realised her intentions in shruti track, still no guilt in him for not trusting sai when she was telling the truth. Now even people like Karishma can see what pakhi trying to do. But he can't?

A woman legit tells can I hug u, I miss my husband AFTER SENDING HIS WIFE OUT OF THE room. Still he is bholu to not understand her intentions? Holy crap.

Even if pakhi says I wanna sleep with u as I am missing my husband,he will say pakhi is sad thinking about samrat, she is bechari bla bla.

Many times I tried to be neutral to this character. But I can't stand a character who stands mute to his wife's abuse while protecting his bhabis at the cost of insulting his wife. Where the hell is love here?

People justifications that he told pakhi ,shruti I love sai is funny. He complained about sai MANY TIMES to these two women despite knowing what they feel for him. He protected those two woman respect at the cost of insulting his so called love many times, he let those women hug him,kiss him, help him in changing clothes,enter room anytime and many more.

So please don't give such justifications. Telling once in a moon that I love sai is not love.

Are we really trying to defend V by saying he doesn't express anything. He had never displayed any reason for us to see his pov. So how can we use his muteness as a defense plea?!

When pp says something againsy his WIFE, he is mute or diplomatic. That itself is not ok. He should have at least considered moving out but he hasn't. He lets Sai deal with it all. But if we give benefit of doubt then at least subconsciously all that should register as accumulated negativity towards pp so that he does not trust her right?!

But here, he still trusts pp when she claims to want to help them. Really?!

The same woman who gave baddua to the child, slapped your wife, wished her dead, held ONLY Sai responsible for Sam death not V .... Suddenly she now wants to help and he believes it SO easily.

How hard is it to keep pp put of their life. How hard is it to politely say- NO, mind your business. He said it once but eventually backtracked in no time. It took him literally no time to change sides that too about something that is illegal and Sai had blanket objected as non negotiable and he had agreed.

That is utterly hypocritical. What happened to the virat chavan who is a man of his word. Pakki zabaan. Kahan gaya?

He promised Sai she would decide who the surrogate was but ultimately violated her consent. Why?! Time jaa raha tha toh kya hojaata....they may not have a child. Ok. They still had each other. They could deal with the consequences. Wasnt finding his wife,making sure she's safe more important than an unborn fetus getting implanted in an illegal manner!

Like c'mon.

These are the situations that test his integrity and love. And he fails each time!

Kindly don't drag real men (who really loves their wife) to justify virat.

It is insult for those real men who genuinely love their wives and always protect them.

Yes men in real life try to balance between wife and family members. But for that they don't turn blind eye to wife's abuse.

It's just not about pakhi. He went against whole family even his ex/bhabi/best friend for Shruti.

If people like Virat exists in real life they would be stripped off police uniform, placed in jail for domestic abuse or atleast called as disloyal, abusive husband instead of getting hailed as husband goals.

Most importantly real man try to make balance between parents and wife. Not bhabi and wife. He can stop his wife from giving reality check (which is insult for him) to his bhabi but can't stop his bhabi from insulting his wife.. Even if those insults includes death threatens,drug accusations, curses, slaps.

Real men who really have spine won't be like Virat. So sorry not sorry.

He is big chomu ☻☻.. yeda banke peda khana... he is some where attention seeker..May be 🤔

I'm sorry but I dont think the justification for the things shown in ghkkpm can be

1. Its fiction - well even in fiction, they have a responsiblity to make the story palatable, realistic and not too toxic. And to have some social responsibility to treat their content with enough research and sensitivity We care, we discuss because cinema/shows are reflection of things, situations that we see in/around us and when you weave a story you need to have an arc. V has no arc. How do you show "humanity" as an audience reacting when the character doesn't possess an ounce of it ?!

2. Other shows are also negative.

We are discussing one show. How can we compare and say- accha everything is negative toh yeh bhi chalega. Sab kuwe mein kudenge toh hum bhi kudein kya!

We can only speak about one show at a time.

A man who does not know what the boundaries are, who pretends to have forgotten the past, the uncomfortable history, a man who callously ignores his wife's insecurities deserves to be called out. Sleeping around is not the only way to hurt your spouse. Dismissing her opinions so easily and doing exactly what she doesn't want is extremely hurtful and disrespectful. Theres no love there then. Allowing a third person to get in between your marriage, interfere is not ok yet V allows it constantly.

And even now all we as audience hoped for is that he'd realize how tough the situation is for Sai and stand by her, reassure her, support her but he is disregarding her, wants her to snap out of it as if its a switch on switch off button. He doesn't care what Sai says- not even some time reflecting on the fact that Sai could be right.

He seems to care 2 hoots about how she's feeling, coping. Everything they give us is so superficial and fake.

Its Sai who is dealing with it alone, processing everything herself, no one supporting her and when she expresses her feeling- he disses her.

What they have shown is not a small matter.

Its illegal and utterly insensitive about a very sensitive subject.

There are many ways they could have given this exact same plot without massacaring V to this degree.

It is not engaging to watch V trust pp over Sai. It has made me turn off the tv/Hulu (in my case). Now I read WUs and even that boils my blood.