My Take : Sairat - Shiv Parvati Analogy Note Added - Page 2

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Originally posted by: daydreamers

Thank you for the encouragement Sadhika!

You are welcome, nice to read different perspectives. I also believe our mythology holds so many stories that happen to us in our day to day life. And drawing inspiration from them makes us grow.

Though V claims to be conscious of the world and society, he does what he thinks is right.

Very true! I agree to it. His decisions to help others stems from compassion, which is a very endearing trait we should not take away from him.

He must have reprimanded Sai time and again because of the entire CN tamasha. But he did that purely out of concern. He wanted to protect this little girl who was new in the house.

You remember that terrace night talk on the first day they came to CN?! It is very telling for me how he accepts Sai as a whole. He asks her to give it back to people who puts her down. That comes from within, not something that is influenced by his family.

Also, when he threw her out after Devkit's marriage he was quick to come around - not because it was about log kya kahenge Or parivaar ki izzat Or societal standards. He was brainwashed into believing that Pulkit is cheating Devi and not how society will see CN people. Even CN wasis know that log kya kahenge gaana won't work in front of V. What made him throw Sai out and bring her back was Devi's safety. The moment he understood that Devi is in safe hands he didn't waste a minute.

Hmm. May be. Here I have a different take. He did succumb to his emotions here. The hero virat faltered here. He should not have ousted her being a person who he was till then and a police officer. Ofcourse, if you see him as a worried brother, a son who is brainwashed and a person who just realized his love for the woman who betrayed his trust, he behaved as expected. But he fell short of a hero that Sai envisioned him till then. I keep saying this, if not for his life at stake Sai would not have come back to him.

He's doing the same thing with Rajiv Shivi. Till he is assured that Rajiv means well, this guy won't budge. Sai knows this.

Yes. And one more trait of Virat is that he will turn around eventually towards the truth. He does mix his judgements that stem from his emotional nature but he will turn around. Sai thinks logically so she doest succumb to her emotions as much. Shakti in true sense :)

Even in Shruthi's track, V did what he felt was right. He chose Shruthi's security above his societal image.

Yes this is his compassion. A visible and dominant trait of Virat. His sacrifice of Pakhi, marrying Sai and even protecting Sruthi came from a very genuine place.

Also Sai's press conference didn't really mean to raise his image in the society. It was an indirect hont - that she appreciates what he did for Shruthi's security.

Exactly and writers put forward his traits in Sai's dialogues. Unless we accept Virat for the what he is, it is hard to understand why he fails with Sai as a husband.

Sai and V function on natural intelligence.

Yes they are different but come from good intentions.

Had V listened to the society or his BK ab tak nanha V ya nanhi Sai aa chuke hote. But this fellow understands natural progression. He never imposed any restrictions/rules/expectations on Sai. He must have scolded her in private, did many things in his insecurity but he stepped back whenever needed.

Wow, we sync so well here.

Shiv Parvati's journey in essence symbolises the natural unfolding of events and understanding.

Yet there is a bond that makes them complete. Independent yet committed.

Ram - Sita on other hand are bound by societal norms. There it's more about rajdharm and duty-orientation. It's more about raghukul. Sita's vanvas went on lifelong. Though in separation, they remained in each other's hearts forever. Their separation was very much governed by the outside forces and they succumbed to it at least physically.

Yes true. I was mostly referring to Ram's compassion as a person. Putting Rajdharm ahead of his beloved wife and future progeny needs strenght and compassion. Not all kings(No king for that matter) can do this, having power in his hands to stop it but still does it. He subjected himself to the rules of the day as he would subject the people in his Kingdom ! No wonder he is a God.

On the contrary V didn't think once about his image when he risked at the time of Shruthi. He didn't give two hoots about maryada purushottam Or not. All he was worried about his image in Sai's eyes. All he expected was a little trust and support in that crucial moment.

Yeah, but to make the marriage work in this world, you have to confirm to certain things. I know he could not have divulged much more that he did. But still a repeated assurance and a confession would have made sense. His repeated denial showed adamancy. I would have confessed during Sruthi track, if it were me in Virat's position. Thats why the track looked so disconnected. Virat so in love with Sai would not have let her go easily. Impossible at that stage given his state of mind.

This track had great potential. But the execution killed it to the core. And now audience doesn't know where does V stands. Probably even NB doesn't know that.

Exactly! I wrote it above. I think he wanted to show them rebuilding the trust but it did not sync well with their emotional state, especially Virat's

I go back to Rono, when I feel Virat is confusing me.

Shiv Parvati is attachment, detachment, duty bound yet freedom oriented.

Yes.

I relate Sai V more to Shiv Parvati.

May be! In their traits. Life situations are something like Ram/Sita's constantly testing them.

Though Sairat's life is influenced by outside forces, they take decisions based on what feels right to them. V speaks a lot about society and family, but his decisions come from his understanding only, not from any other obligations. Aur Sai toh Sai hi hai!

@bold

Yeah she is the ideal character in this story from where we have to judge other characters.

Loved reading your take!

Originally posted by: xfiles

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I also disagree that V isnt conscious of society/peoples perceptions. He is but he applies those things selectively.

Uparseh When hes in a good mood- sab sahi hai and when he is annoyed, he is exceedingly selfish. It takes something major like Sai being in mortal peril to shake him out of his anger/self centeredness and self pity. Hes definitely not a bad guy- he has compassion, wants to do the best he can for people but he fails to realize what his priorities should be. He cares so much about his warped idea of "duty" that he will sacrifice his wife /parents/children in the process. He screwed up when he didn't inform his own parents before narrying Sai, screwed up when he couldn't have clear conversations with Sai about pp/Shruti and in KD he goes on to screw up by ignoring his wife and his own daughter to take care of Shruti/Sahas and later PP in the name of "duty".

If you need to do 2 wrongs to do one right, in the end you are wrong!

Originally posted by: sadiltl

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The reason I disagree with V is compassionate is because how he is treating Sai since anniversary. Selective compassion is not a sign of compassionate man.
Plus he does what he thinks is right without giving any explanation to others, have no regards of how his actions are impacting his close ones and still seeks they all praise him for his actions.Deal or not Sai had right to be upset seeing her husband claim another woman his wife n father her child.

He is overlooking everything Sai did for him to seek forgiveness. Just cause she did not behaved as he expected. Where is compassion when Sai was kidnapped? He was literally taunting her there. No concern that she risked her life to save his!

MOST IMPORTANTLY he knows Sai has no one in her life to call her own or share her feeling with, he understands Pakhi n Shruti pain but not Sai’s? He forgot that inthe end she is just a 19-20 yr old girl without family! A compassionate man would have atleast treated her well for that. And here he claims he loved her!

Virat til last year holi was compassionate at this point he is not!

CD has messed up Virat character so bad that he turned disgusting character from flawed character.

Really nice writing. I have no knowledge of Hindu mythology, so have to read few times to somewhat understand the story you wrote here. But can see the similarity you pointed out with Sai and Virat, Virat’s vaada to Patralekha, and Gangadhaar.
Is Sai in deal marriage Sati and Sai in accepting the marriage Parvati?
What does Mahalda Martand Bhano mean? I have not learned hindi either, so couldnt understand this part😅.

Sai had made it clear what he thinks of Virat and Patralekha’s ‘friendship’ during their post ladakh trip fight. When she confronted him about his vaada to Patralekha, even if he couldnt give her answer in front of the family, he couldve cleared out with Sai in private after stopping her from leaving CN. What he denied then, he admitted now. He often doesnt give her clear answers and sometime replies to her question with another question. Anniversary celebration, yes, Sai didnt give him chance to clarify and is not ready to listen, then things escalated and finally he managed to clarify it during MiMo track.

For Shruti track, yes, Sai’s insecurities about her position in his life was what made her unable to think clearly during the Shruti track. I didnt think it was Patralekha’s words, because she have dismissed it during her imaginary conversation with Aaba. But I feel whatever that happened during Shruti track is not solely Sai’s mistake, Virat had his mistakes too. Before Sai left CN, in their room, she had asked who she is to him. He asked her to think herself, but she is clearly not in a state to think calmly. Even if he cannot tell the truth about Shruti, he shouldve be more assertive and assured her with words. Thats the difference between them. She needs clarity and he expects her to understand his gesture. Before she could even make sense of what happened, he signed as another woman’s child’s father in front of her. At the end, she was kidnapped and heard the other part of the story from someone else. Anyway, she had understood that the deal part of their marriage was long over for him without him saying it or her questioning him, although it was quite a journey for her too.

I dont think she has completely burned down her impulsive self. There is still some impulsiveness in her, one example is giving bhang to Virat during holi. But she admits her mistake and apologizes for it. And she sure had started to act as someone living in a joint family.

Agree that she had done many things going against Virat and the Chavan’s. But she does what she believes to be right, although her methods are not always right. But at this point, I dont think she will go against the family for Shivani-Rajeev’s marriage, even with Virat’s consent. She will try to convince the family to agree and give their blessings for the marriage.

About Sati getting married by going against her father, this brought me back to the conversation in Ashwini-Ninad’s room after their anniversary celebration. Sai said Ashwini-Ninad’s marriage was done with their consent and elder’s blessing, not her and Virat’s. Their marriage was forced upon her and a deal because of her father’s death. Thats another reason I think it was difficult for her to accept her marriage.

The stage they are now does seem like they are burning. Sai in guilt and Virat in anger(?). Maybe we will have to wait for it to burn down and they will rise from the ashes like phoenix.

I agree with most of your points here ..@Sab04,

I cannot co relate an ideal husband which woman pray for .. As Shivji with a character like Virat / Rono ..

Most if you in the thread have mentioned Shivji qualities.. it is difficult for mortals to have most of them

but virat does not even have the basic thing of respecting his wife .. he can deny her food .. when he’s angry with her .. he has no fear about her safety .. shown in multiple incidents cannot repeat ..

It’s always his ego above anyone else ..

He is an interesting character no doubt a flawed individual.. and he’s realistic because we find many virat’s living around us .. so we can connect to him ..

Sai I wish they had made more realistic .. by adding Vankar ka version .. they are making her unbelievable.. wish they had stuck to Leena’s interpretation ( Emon ) ..

I don’t think the author( Leena) imagined then as Shiv Parvati .. most likely she might have drawn inspiration from many Bengali literature from Sarat Chandra and others .. I see influence of it from there ..

I think the thread initiator didn’t mean to compare them with shivji Parvati ma but draws inspiration from certain incidents!

usually Also any married couple is compared or blessed to be like shiv parvati or ram sita by the elders. because they have undergone so much together as couples and still manage to teach us something. And a regular wife and husband relationship can’t be different from the situations they faced (ram sitas life is the most turbulent) . So yeah some incidents in their life still inspire modern stories and hence the parallels.

Yes about Bengali writers like Sharath Chandra. He does showcase the frailties of men more than women. His women are well rounded and stronger than men 👍