My Take : Sairat - Shiv Parvati Analogy Note Added

Hi all,

I joined Ghum quite late. But Shiv Parvati references for Sairat drew me to this show immensely.

Posting the same in a new thread. Thanks for the suggestion S ( I don't know what to call you. Please reply to this. I'll remember next time while quoting). Waise added few more things to the previous draft.

Would love to know your thoughts on this 😇

You may call me DD or Janhavi.

I know it is ITV and we are in 2022.

But still....

For Sairat there have been frequent references to Shiv Parvati. That's one reason I want to bash the makers for not including Hartalika. Well that's for another day.

But yes, Shiv Parvati is an ideal match. In Hindu Mythology, out of the three Gods only Shiv ji lived a complete married life - with kids. Vishnu ji on the other hand had kids in his incarnations and not in his real avatar.
Though Shiv Parvati is an ideal match it's definitely not a rosy match. They experienced frequent phases of separation. Shiv Sati, then Shiv Parvati. There's waiting, longing, yearning, patience, and assurance in them. Parvati's tapasya is famous. But as Parvati did her tapasya, even Shiv ji waited for her patiently. He never gave access to any other lady in his life - except Parvati. So it becomes a tapasya for both. Both are waiting, longing, yearning, and are assured that no matter what they'll find other again. It's poetic and poignant.

Parvati was kidnapped by Jalandhar. Shiv ji saves her. But Mahadev alone couldn't kill Jalandhar (as he was his own ansh) . He needed Parvati's support to kill him.

Sairat's storyline by far has followed this analogy.

Since Devkit married on Mahashivratri. This reference applies to them as well. Both in separation for years. Pulkit waiting patiently and Devi toh lost herself.

Also, only Parvati can pacify Shiv and only Shiv can calm down Kali. Haven't we seen that with Sairat already? No matter what, they are stuck together.

Shiv-Parvati as a couple is meant to take up and overcome challenges and do something for the world. To a great extent CVs have followed this with Sai and V. They both have done quite a lot for others without expecting anything in return. It's idealistic but I like the purity in this characterisation.

Another scene that touches this analogy is post their wedding when Sai has to serve everyone food. Parvati is also known as annapoorna. That day Sai made sure that everyone has eaten properly. It was her second day in the house but she fulfilled her duty. Before they leave for the dining table Sai asks V to wait "Virat Sir ek minute". And when everyone sits at the table, V is still standing in the corner. When asked he tells her that she only told him to wait. This scene was so symbolic! It was almost like Shiv brought his Parvati home and now feeding everyone is her part of the job and he let her take the lead. Beautiful it was!

Another similar scene was when Sai fed Mohit. Here also V intervenes till Sai's path is clear. He stands behind when she feeds Mohit. He convinced Mohit to sit down and then he stepped back. It's like "nourishing" is your job, I brought what was needed. Beautiful scene!

Another scene - Sai invites Devkit for mandav paratni. She wants to cook. V wants to pay the grocery bills.

When V stops Sai from eating anything after she returns from Pulkit's house, he starts to see sense only after Ashwini counts all the good things about Sai. Only Sai Or anything related to her can pacify V. His track changes whenever Sai is in picture.

After Sai's second accident, she wanted to see only V. Whatever the situation between them, it was only V. The only person who can make her eat, take medicines is V.

A beautiful dialogue between Samrat and Virat after the latter gets blood for Sai

V : Duniya chahein jo keh le. Ek sach kabhi nahi badal sakta Jeeva. Sai meri zimmedaari hai.

Always loved Shiv-Parvati reference with Sairat! And I want more such scenes. Poetic yet poignant.

They are a walking paradox - Separate yet inseparable.

This analogy is actually a great screenwriting element for future plot building.

Coming to third angle - well there's no comparison to this cringe but still.

Parvati was furious with Mahadev as he's called "Gangadhar". And she leaves him only to reincarnate as Mahalsa. And Mahadev shows up as Martand. This is related to Khandoba Mahadev (there are multiple stories about this. Some say the third angle is related to Ganga, others say it is related to Parvati's friend).

There's another reference to "Gangadhar" -

Like Parvati being jealous is futile as "Gangadhar" means Ganga ko dhaaran karne wala. And anything that is held doesn't belong in your heart. And what belongs to you needn't be held.

This has been the dynamics of Sai V Pakhi. Though V blundered right in the beginning by calling the marriage a deal, he realises soon after that what is held doesn't belong - his promise to Pakhi. Pakhi never belonged to V and he acts out of courtesy with her. So he only holds the relationship of friend with her. But Sai eventually became a part of his heart and what belongs to your heart needn't be held for long. So the "deal" got erased from his life.

Now he's unable to explain the same to Sai - hence the confusion. He feels she'll read his gestures. She tries to, she does but Pakhi knocks the door every damn time.

Till Shruthi's track, V has been very patient when it comes to this shitty triangle. He never explained to Sai bcz he knew unless and until it doesn't come naturally to Sai, she's never gonna understand it.

This is quite similar to Mahalsa Martand Bano. Mahalsa suffered a great deal here. Martand kept his patience till Mahalsa recalled what really happened before the incarnation. It's basically to give her space to purge out her residual feelings of jealousy, anger, and hatred.

Another POV is from Shiv Sati story

Shiv ji stops Sati from going to her father's havan puja. She doesn't listen. She goes, gets insulted, and burns herself to death.

V requests Sai to keep patience during Shruthi's track. She doesn't listen. She fights, leaves, and when she comes back to the real reality she has already burnt the rope halfway.

After Sati's death, Shiv ji breaks all his ties with the world and lives in seclusion. Same happened with V post his homecoming.

Sati reincarnates as Parvati and now Parvati won't repeat the mistakes that Sati has committed.

Same is happening with Sai. She has burnt down her old impulsive self (which is good if one wants to achieve some stability in life) and now is moulding herself at every step.

Sati married Shiv by going against her father. Sai has done many things by going against CN wasis and V. Parvati rectified her mistake and married only with her parents' blessings. Sai is now doing the same. She's going against CN wasis but she'll make sure V gives her the consent for Rajiv Shivi wedding. V still feels that she hasn't gotten over her impulse. Hence the dialogue "iska kuch nahi ho sakta". Let him realize how much her method has changed. He'll melt. Separation/No separation.

Through and through, V was trying to explain Sai how important it was to tame down her impulsive self. He knew she'll get it only after it comes naturally to her. Her insecurities propelled her impulsive nature in Shruthi's track. (This track was badly executed no doubt. But my focus is purely on analogy and screenwriting parallels)

Now they have reached a point where Sai is in tapasya mode and V too is suffering out of this whole thing.

They'll rise like Phoenix when the fire has burnt down all the impurities. Waise it also burns jealousy, anger, hatred, insecurity, and doubt. 😉

NOTE : Mentioned in few replies. Updating in the post. This post is not intended to hurt anyone's religious sentiments. Written purely from the perspective of screenwriting parallels. And yes I've repeatedly said this - V's character arc is not convincing!

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I like such analogies! feels good.

The other day I have drawn parralles with Ram and sita. Virat being mahan staking his wife and sai fighiting for love without comprimising her self respect.

Shiv-Parvati fits well too, both are passionate to each other but are very independent in their mindset. Sai doesnt depend on him for her decisions neither will Virat.They just need eachother's presence in their life to make it joyful. Otherwise they are both capable humanbeings who can lead life as they desire but with commitment to each other. Shiv-Parvati I felt is the meaning of any modern couple's end goal . Independent yet committed.!

PS: you can call me Sadhika.

I always liked the symbolism of that flower falling on both their shoulders too.

The problem is this whole show is heavily tilted /polarized in making V look mahaan and righteous but he's really not. He keeps repeating his cycle of BS while only Sai is shown to be changing/evolving gradually.

Originally posted by: Nja91

I always liked the symbolism of that flower falling on both their shoulders too.

The problem is this whole show is heavily tilted /polarized in making V look mahaan and righteous but he's really not. He keeps repeating his cycle of BS while only Sai is shown to be changing/evolving gradually.

Hainn na? That's my favorite scene too.

V's character arc is unclear I agree.

But I'll still try to put across with analogy.

Shiv ji in essence is known for detachment. His struggle only begins when he settles down first with Sati and then Parvati. With kids toh his dilemma reaches next level. It's almost like he wants to be detached but can't be.

Idhar though they used Mahadev Parvati many times. Their references were different. Starting off, Sai was Shiv. Of course logically it's her age. She was too young. But marriage was never on her mind. It was only her Aaba. She wanted to stay with him. Shaadi ki bhi toh ghar jamai types. But she risked all for those she loved. Tried to be there whenever help was needed. Her anger shows her care. Mahadev is angry too. No one can match his tandav.

With V they brought up the analogy a little when he started falling for her. It was almost like Parvati. Shiv ji ki tapasya bhang karna. He never told her directly but his actions screamed out loud - possessiveness, jealousy. And Sai was detached self thanks to the deal, third angle and what not.

After Shruthi's track, the roles have reversed.

V has become Shiv - angry and detached.

Sai has become Parvati who's hellbent on doing whatever it takes to pacify her Shiv.

V wants to be detached but slowly and steadily that dilemma is getting over him. How can i be detached and attached at the same time?

Ghum suffers because of poor execution.

Had they followed this analogy (which they have referred to umpteen times, the show would've done wonders).

Also, they are kind perfectionists. Ma Parvati is also stubborn and go getter. Shivji as we know is perfect but with strong emotional outbursts. His anger we all know, his uncontrollable grief when Sati dies and the undivided passion with Parvati is all extreme, so is his compassion towards others, equal and undivided.

Translate this to humans, this kind of personalities which border on perfection will have same expectations on the partners. Say Sai seeks utmost transparency and Virat seeks unflappable trust. But they are not Shiv and Parvati to give that to each other! They fail as humans do.

With V they brought up the analogy a little when he started falling for her. It was almost like Parvati. Shiv ji ki tapasya bhang karna. He never told her directly but his actions screamed out loud - possessiveness, jealousy. And Sai was detached self thanks to the deal, third angle and what not.

I also see this with Pakhi playing the cupid (manmad) unknowingly. And Virat should turn her into ashes when he realizes. 🤣

Originally posted by: sadiltl

I like such analogies! feels good.

The other day I have drawn parralles with Ram and sita. Virat being mahan staking his wife and sai fighiting for love without comprimising self respect.

Shiv-Parvati fits well too, both are passionate to each other but are very independent in their mindset. Sai doesnt depend on him for her decisions neither will Virat.They just need eachother's presence in their life to make it joyful. Otherwise they are both capable humanbeings who can lead life as they desire but with commitment to each other. Shiv-Parvati I felt is the meaning of any modern couple's end goal . Independent yet committed.!

PS: you can call me Sadhika.

Thank you for the encouragement Sadhika!

Though V claims to be conscious of the world and society, he does what he thinks is right.

He must have reprimanded Sai time and again because of the entire CN tamasha. But he did that purely out of concern. He wanted to protect this little girl who was new in the house.

Also, when he threw her out after Devkit's marriage he was quick to come around - not because it was about log kya kahenge Or parivaar ki izzat Or societal standards. He was brainwashed into believing that Pulkit is cheating Devi and not how society will see CN people. Even CN wasis know that log kya kahenge gaana won't work in front of V. What made him throw Sai out and bring her back was Devi's safety. The moment he understood that Devi is in safe hands he didn't waste a minute.

He's doing the same thing with Rajiv Shivi. Till he is assured that Rajiv means well, this guy won't budge. Sai knows this.

Even in Shruthi's track, V did what he felt was right. He chose Shruthi's security above his societal image.

Also Sai's press conference didn't really mean to raise his image in the society. It was an indirect hont - that she appreciates what he did for Shruthi's security.

Sai and V function on natural intelligence.

Had V listened to the society or his BK ab tak nanha V ya nanhi Sai aa chuke hote. But this fellow understands natural progression. He never imposed any restrictions/rules/expectations on Sai. He must have scolded her in private, did many things in his insecurity but he stepped back whenever needed.

Shiv Parvati's journey in essence symbolises the natural unfolding of events and understanding.

Ram - Sita on other hand are bound by societal norms. There it's more about rajdharm and duty-orientation. It's more about raghukul. Sita's vanvas went on lifelong. Though in separation, they remained in each other's hearts forever. Their separation was very much governed by the outside forces and they succumbed to it at least physically.

Edit : V didn't take a second to slap Vitthal when he tries to provoke Sai during their wedding. Tab toh aisa bond bhi nahi tha. He made sure to shut off that scoundrel.

On the contrary V didn't think once about his image when he risked at the time of Shruthi. He didn't give two hoots about maryada purushottam Or not. All he was worried about his image in Sai's eyes. All he expected was a little trust and support in that crucial moment.

Edit : This was almost like Shiv ji drinking poison during Samudra Manthan. Parvati is by his side throughout.

Apni Sai idhar fisal gayi for obvious reasons.

This track had great potential. But the execution killed it to the core. And now audience doesn't know where does V stands. Probably even NB doesn't know that.

Shiv Parvati is attachment, detachment, duty bound yet freedom oriented.

I relate Sai V more to Shiv Parvati.

Though Sairat's life is influenced by outside forces, they take decisions based on what feels right to them. V speaks a lot about society and family, but his decisions come from his understanding only, not from any other obligations. Aur Sai toh Sai hi hai!

I very respectfully disagree!
Usually silent reader but couldn’t stop my self from commenting here! Please please please leave gods out of this! A problematic n toxic character like Virat who is not acting as decent man is being compared to Shiv! 😳🥺

Even if they started with such reference in their mind, at this point the execution is so bad that we must refrain from bringing in references of Shiv Parvaati and n Ram Sita or any religious character for that matter! Comparing Sai Rat to Any of them is huge disrespect to these gods!

PS: just noticed separate thread on this so reposting my comment here! 🙏

Definitely agree. They need to have been more thoughtful about execution. This story could've been way more gripping, emotional, engaging if they had focused on key aspects- especially V's characterization.

I agree. But the analogy and symbolism is derived from what they showed. Its just an attempt at understanding the complex emotions/behavior at play. Doesn't mean V is bring compared to a god. And Definitely does not mean that a man as problematic as V can ever be condoned. To me as audience, V and Chavannis are just lucky that they have a Sai who challenges their thinking, brings about change for good without disrupting their family dynamics.abd tolerates their massive egos.

V is not a man who is a bairagi or detached. He latches on to any attention given to him by any woman and cant draw clear boundaries. He wants to take pride in his wifes journey/achievements but on his terms. He himself is exceedingly possessive. So hes a really flawed man who cant practice what he preaches or live up to the same standards/principles that he holds his wife to. He also lacks the intent to display in actions what he supposedly feels. He claimed to have let go of any feelings for pp the moment she was to be wedded to Sam but could never keep her at a safe distance emotionally and in part even physically. She has not slept with him but they are always in close proximity by virtue of living in the same roof and pp being omnipresent. He made the same errors of attachment with Shruti also. And worst- he never pauses to ask himself why people misunderstood. Why would his friend who asked him to take care of his wife doubt their relationship unless they gave him at least some reason to doubt.

Sai is not flawless. But at least she has a certain relatibility, consistency and an arc to explain her changing thoughts, actions and behaviors. V is just a bipolar pendulum type man who is hell bent on being fake self righteous and manages to ruin the life of his wife who made the mistake of getting attached to him and loving him. This will be a vicious cycle until he truly reflects/repents/and rediscovers or Sai breaks free from this cycle.

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