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Posted: 4 years ago
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Virat can do whatever he wants with his bf but when he can't set boundaries with his ex who still pins over him then he shouldn't cry why his wife don't understand his feeling & why his brother misundestands him. His self respect doesn't get hurt when his ex calls him dokebaaz & coward? She taunts him daily for her misery but he doesn't felt beizzathi by her words still sympathises with her. Yeah how dare sai still didn't forget about his commitment,pyari cheez dialogues but misunderstand pure bf's relationship by seeing them alone at cafe despite both living in same house. Virat knows pakhi still loves him,he knows pakhi's important talk is not about samrat,he knows his brother discomfort over his relationship with his wife still agreed to meet her without even thinking for a second. But it is fault of sai sam who is not understanding his pure intentions. It is fault of them not having telepathy but believing what they see infront of their eyes. It's all fault of universe for virat getting misunderstood. Virat doubting sai relationship with ajinkya despite sai telling him aj is her just friend is justifiable. Because poor baby was jealous. But sai feeling insecure by seeing her husband giving so much leverage to his ex infront of her since a year is wrong. And she deserves every misery for not understanding his feelings.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Loved your analysis... especially the first sentence...😆

You have captured Sai and Virat's feelings with absolute precision

Here are my 2 cents in the cafe decision, though I am 100 percent sure that his decision to go and meet her alone was reprehensible.

When Pakhi approached him and asked for a meeting.. He was not thinking about the implications in the lines of How Sai would feel or how Sammy would act?...at this point he was just thinking about his brother.. He wants to rewrite the past somehow. His intentions were to speak to her and read her mind and do right by his brother. He wants to make sure that she receives the message loud and clear that he has moved on and so must she. She must continue to live with Samrat if and only she feels she can commit herself completely to him.

This was exactly why he asked her whether she spoke to Samrat? I don't think he listened to her response fully.. when she said woh bhi.. He nodded so fast and accepted to meet her because he wanted her to leave that place immediately.... He did not want Sammy to find her in his room and create a whole lot of chaos again.

Coming to choosing a cafe in the vicinity of Sai's college and committing to a time exactly when Sai leaves... eh....We call him Dumbo Chavan for the right reasons..🤣

I agree everything you said about Pakhi, in addition I felt that the despicable woman was trying to gauge Sai's reactions when she said Virat is all hers.. She wanted Sai to react her usual self and say its all a deal marriage and Virat is not hers.. She wanted to prove to Virat once again that Sai does not have feelings for him..

Her vileness meter rises every time she opens her mouth.. Soon it will explode 🤣


I felt bad for Sai...😭 May be this time when she feels bad on seeing Virat and Didi dearest together she will self introspect and realize she has been in love all along and that is the reason it hurts her the most every time she sees them together..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nja91

She is really a pure soul. I really think she should leave CN and focus on her studies, her career. This daily attack on her self respect where she is tolerating her husband's ex 24x7, and tolerating the behavior of these two faced CN peeps who didnt bat an eyelid when pp ended up being guilty of everything they denied in the past....this is too much. Why should she put up with so much on a daily basis. If she leaves and virat truly loves her, he will eventually realize that the only way to live together is to be in an apartment just the two of them. Away from his ex n his horrible family.

Virat keeps saying Sai cant read his eyes/emotions. But is he any better?! How does he not read Sai. Dont her actions clearly potray her love and affection. When Virat told Sai that he appreciates that Sai is always honest n says what she feels with no filters, and its a good quality which she should not change Sai says- do you have the quality...If not cultivate it! And virat acts clueless that he doesn't understand what she means. She is referring to him not speaking clearly about him- pp. If he could speak what is on his mind there would be no misunderstanding. Virat appreciates the quality of her straightforwardness but cant take the heat when its directed at him and is retorting with indifference. He knows somewhere that this behavior is hurting Sai....but he doesn't want to acknowledge it. And i dont understand his expression when Pp is once again creating unecessary drama as Sai walks in to the room. Why does he look pained exactly ?! Here pp is pretending - saying sorry to Sai for coming to the room n saying room n insaan are both yours n in precap in coffee shop she is saying she wants a fresh start with virat. This woman has filth in her mind. No brain. Just garbage.

Its ridiculous that the oldies of the house have so casually brushed away virat-pp like it is no big deal. I am truly appalled at their double standards. Like really they all are utterly shameless.

Samrat though has recognized that Sai cares a lot for virat-but is held back due to virats words. He is the only one who cares about giving Sai some counsel and direction. He wants the best for Sai n Virat. But sadly everytime Sai thinks about giving her marriage a chance, circumstances always become unfavorable.

I really am not able to empathize with virat. I am trying to but i am unable to understand his pov. Aisa kya baat karegi pp that he has agreed so easily to go to cafe. He does not seem to care about repercussions of his actions on Sai/Samrat.

I concur with your opinion and today what he did cannot be justified 😤 unless brain freeze due to fever is one.

What Sai said about mohit and aai about supporting her came across to Sam. So he knows how straight forward she is. He also the first to understand her perspective is she cares and Maybe holding back due to virats behaviour or vaada and not clearly communicating and thinks he must talk to her. This shows he does cares for sairat. Surprise that ninad said a nice thing about Sai bai but is it to gain brownie points with Sam since sam has some affection for Sai ?. It became evident today that sam does care for Sai.

Nothing can justify Virat behaviour now. First sai gave him another opening to speak clearly when she asked him.

Most imp when pp asked to meet he decided to meet without any thoughts on how it can impact Sam 😠😠😠. Total dumb decision. He is mad at sai so not telling her but not keeping an elder like maybe his aai and Sam in loop is silly. He knows pp too he must have kept a exit strategy by keeping someone in loop. Can't understand which angle he is a cop😏😏😏😏

Again I could have stad. Sam for being empathic , brutally honest but his leaving army has made me slightly uncomfortable

No words about the precap. Sam wants divorce so pp is free but vir has told pp na that he loves sai. Then How can pp say this is an opportunity for us ??.

Honestly what does pp see in Vir

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Amor_fati

Loved your analysis... especially the first sentence...😆

You have captured Sai and Virat's feelings with absolute precision

Here are my 2 cents in the cafe decision, though I am 100 percent sure that his decision to go and meet her alone was reprehensible.

When Pakhi approached him and asked for a meeting.. He was not thinking about the implications in the lines of How Sai would feel or how Sammy would act?...at this point he was just thinking about his brother.. He wants to rewrite the past somehow. His intentions were to speak to her and read her mind and do right by his brother. He wants to make sure that she receives the message loud and clear that he has moved on and so must she. She must continue to live with Samrat if and only she feels she can commit herself completely to him.

This was exactly why he asked her whether she spoke to Samrat? I don't think he listened to her response fully.. when she said woh bhi.. He nodded so fast and accepted to meet her because he wanted her to leave that place immediately.... He did not want Sammy to find her in his room and create a whole lot of chaos again.

Coming to choosing a cafe in the vicinity of Sai's college and committing to a time exactly when Sai leaves... eh....We call him Dumbo Chavan for the right reasons..🤣

I agree everything you said about Pakhi, in addition I felt that the despicable woman was trying to gauge Sai's reactions when she said Virat is all hers.. She wanted Sai to react her usual self and say its all a deal marriage and Virat is not hers.. She wanted to prove to Virat once again that Sai does not have feelings for him..

Her vileness meter rises every time she opens her mouth.. Soon it will explode 🤣


I felt bad for Sai...😭 May be this time when she feels bad on seeing Virat and Didi dearest together she will self introspect and realize she has been in love all along and that is the reason it hurts her the most every time she sees them together..



@bolded: This is so beautifully said, Ramya ❤️

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Awesome analysis as always Pooja ❤️

Why Virat was not thinking about Sai makes complete sense.

But why he never thought of the repercussions on Samrat....we will just have to assume whatever you both have written.

Pooja, @amor Loved both your takes on Virat's motivation.

I just wish there had been a couple of dialogues from Pakhi or Virat's monologue that could have made Virat's motivations clear ...as much as him agreeing to the secret meeting was wrong. This is how makers neglect Virat's characterization and make him look dumb.

@Amor_fati Liked your take on Pakhi's sly manipulation. I guess in between all the hullabaloo, she managed to understand that all was not well between SaiRat.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: tptwi

I am absolutely loving Samrat. He has pieced together Sai and Virat's entire situation in just a few days. I keep saying that he is a fresh pair of eyes, but he also knows Virat better than anyone else and deeply understands Sai's pain. It seems clear that he is going to be the person Sai has been needing this entire time... and not just in terms of figuring out her relationship with Virat, but also in terms of having a person who will stand by her side unwaveringly.


Seeing most people in zillat today praising Sai instead of bashing her was a refreshing change. Even the usual vultures didn't have much to say to counter her praises.


Coming to Virat's attitude towards Sai. There is an important distinction between him acting this way to hurt her and him acting this way to protect himself. And, it is quite clear from the past few episodes that the reason he is acting is this way is the latter. He is doing exactly what Sai has been doing this entire time. His heart will never stop loving her, but his mind has put up walls, causing him to act harsh and indifferent in order to cover up his vulnerabilities. He does not think that Sai will ever understand him. He does not think that she will ever accept this marriage. So, he has lost all hope and he has given up. He wants to save himself from any further heartbreak...exactly like Sai has wanted to save herself the heartbreak, using her brash exterior to cover up how she truly feels.


The morning scene between Sai and Virat was so painful. Virat told Sai not to take care of him, but Sai told him point blank that she does not need his permission. With Virat growing distant, Sai is asserting her rights over him more and more clearly. She is fighting for and reminding him of her rights over him, because these rights have been real to her all along. She just has been unable to let herself accept them. Again, Virat is failing miserably in his indifference- he went on a long tangent complimenting how Sai always stands up for the truth and got so carried away that he did not even realize what he was doing. The second he saw her face, he stopped and shook his own head...he himself knows that he is being quite unsuccessful at what he is trying to do. Sai basically told Virat that he has to tell the truth now, because there is no other option left. She once again indirectly asked him for clarification, but he was unable to comprehend what she was saying. In his mind, he knows bright and clear what the truth is, and again, he expects everyone to just understand his truth without him saying anything. Because, he is once again wallowing in his own emotions.


Virat saying that he is uncomfortable with Sai taking care of him absolutely broke Sai. Ayesha killed this scene. She was trying so hard to keep herself composed, but she could not stop her tears. This attitude from Virat is destroying her piece by piece....and she does not even understand why it is happening. Virat using the word "uncomfortable" impacted her more than anything else he said, because to her, there is nothing more comfortable than her relationship with Virat. Up until this point, regardless of the deal, zimidari, and guardianship, both of them have been each other's comfort. She has accepted it fully...but for Virat to say this, was an attack on everything she holds to be true. Despite all of her hurt, she said she does not care and will take care of him regardless. She can tolerate this behavior...she can tolerate anything...she just cannot tolerate Virat in pain.

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Coming to the dreaded cafe invitation. First and foremost, I want to say that it is absolutely wrong of Virat to agree to go to the cafe. There is no denying that. But, I think there is more to it than just that... it is more complicated than that.


Virat thinks that Sai has already made up her mind. He thinks that no matter what, she will continue believing that this marriage is a deal, and that he feels for Pakhi. He thinks that nothing will ever change that. He has lost all hope in that regard. So, when he agrees to go to the cafe, he does not think it will impact Sai nor his relationship with her. Had the anniversary fight not happened, perhaps he would have given it a second thought...but since then, he has given up. This was evident when Sai came into the bedroom and told Virat and Pakhi that she did not want to interrupt their personal conversation. To Virat, there was no such thing happening...but, Sai's words just reaffirmed, to him, what he is already believing. That, Sai has made up her mind, and that is all. He looked extremely frustrated, and he looked even more pained and frustrated when Pakhi said that Virat is Sai's. Because, that is not true for him anymore. No matter what he does (in his mind), nothing will be able to make him her's and her his. He thought that his actions should have been enough for Sai to understand him, and he now believes that nothing will clear her misunderstanding. I'm not undermining the fact that this entire mess has been created because Virat did not clear up the past in the first place. Rather, I'm trying to look at things from his perspective.


In terms of Virat being inconsiderate towards Samrat. Virat is so deep into his own guilt regarding his role in ruining his marriage, that he will do anything he has to do to fix it. If meeting Pakhi outside the house can make things better, he will do that too. He is not going to think about how this will all look to Samrat, and that is just who he is. His emotions prevent him from considering other people's POVs. In his mind, he assumes that what Pakhi wants to talk about has to be about Samrat. Also, it is clear how cold and distant he was acting towards Pakhi. He was shocked that she even entered his bedroom, and his eyes were wandering searching for Sai. The second their conversation ended, he turned his back towards her. He asked her if she spoke to Samrat, again showing his desperation for them to work things out. All in all, I really do believe that Virat has assumed that Pakhi's important talk is about Samrat and her marriage with him. That is why he has agreed to meet her... no matter how dumb his decision is.


Sai seeing them both together in the room broke my heart even further. She was trying so hard to not let it impact her. And even so, she still suppressed her feelings in order to be able to take care of Virat. She does not deserve any of this even in the slightest. I don't understand those who think that she had this coming 😭


Virat's dialogue at the end spoke volumes- he said that he cannot understand Sai... these are the exact words that Sai has said about Virat time and time again. Virat said that Sai cares about his health, but not his feelings. He cannot see that the reason she cares so deeply about his health is because she is in love with him. He is misunderstanding her actions as something other than love, and this is exactly what Sai has been doing this entire time too. Both of them are unable to understand each other. Virat isn't realizing that the reason Sai is unable to see his feelings is because of how the past is haunting her and how he himself has failed to clear everything up time and time again. And again, even in Virat's indifference, he was still concerned about Sai missing her college and her studies suffering because of him.

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A quick thing about Pakhi. It is so vile how she is manipulating this entire situation in attempt to get Virat to meet her at the cafe. She is acting all innocent, trying to appear as if she understands the boundaries between herself and Virat. Her telling Sai that Virat is her's was honestly a despicable act. She is again trying to save her face in front of Virat so that she can accomplish what she is intending to do at the cafe. Sai looked so confused and kind of taken aback when Pakhi said this... she looked towards Virat, almost in search of some type of affirmation that this could be true. But, he was too deep in his own pain to see this....

Beautiful and indepth analysis of both Sai and Virat as usual💕.


I am on the fence about Virat agreeing to go to meet Pakhi outside the house without any question or even any thoughts. Her intentions were very clear first when she tired to get him to sympathize with her by saying need to talk something important and then saying yes I want to talk about Samrat aswell. My question what more important things does she have to talk to Virat about other than Samrat 🤔. This is the same women because of whom Sai almost lost her life and not an ounce of anger or despise towards her and he immediately accepts the invitation without any protest, how🤔. I would have given him benefit of doubt that he was doing all this just to fix what he thinks he has broken if he had asked her to speak there only , atleast protested a little to meet outside the house alone or thought about Samrat. But he failed to do any of these. I am unable to convince myself that he is wallowing in his own sorrow, if he did he wouldn't have been shocked when first Pakhi and then Sai walks in on them and became so conscious. He wouldn't have reacted at all to Sai or Pakhi.


Sai my darling what are you doing to yourself. Yes she was wrong and should have never said those things to Virat but her heart is breaking into pieces each time Virat is uttering all those hurtful dialogues.


@italic actions vs words again. He wants her to understand his actions but can't understand her actions and vice versa. Both are wrong for hurting eachother constantly but this whole domino effect was started by Virat himself and he definitely is more at fault than Sai. The number of times he has agreed to talk to Pakhi about important things, wish he had spent 50% of that time interspecting his actions. And Sai now that she knows why Virat is mad, why couldnt they have made her apologize to Virat 🤔, waise toh she is asked to apologize to c gang , Pakhi and anyone else available but they didn't give her little sense to just apologize🤔.


Pakhi acting all innocent when Sai walks in and apologizing and her followup dialogues, what can I say she is a disgusting person playing with Sais emotions knowing how she was affected🤬 .


@bold Pakhi was drainage garbage today. Some of her dialogues which need to go to hall of Fame for being the most innocent victim and not want wanting EMA


1) In this house they will mistake our relationship again. (How can Virat even listen to this with a straight face and accept her invitation. Does he not know she is lying, which world is he living in 🤔)

2. I want to talk something important and yes I want to talk about Samrat aswell

3. There is nothing personal not talk between Virat and me

4. Virat is only yours Sai

5. And in precap - I want you and we can come together and become hum again


Samrat is like a breathe of fresh hair and hoping they don't ruin him. 1st time I didn't mind zillat for a change 🤣


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Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Awesome analysis as always Pooja ❤️

Why Virat was not thinking about Sai makes complete sense.

But why he never thought of the repercussions on Samrat....we will just have to assume whatever you both have written.

I just wish there had been a couple of dialogues from Pakhi or Virat's monologue that could have made Virat's motivations clear ...as much as him agreeing to the secret meeting was wrong. This is how makers neglect Virat's characterization and make him look dumb.

@Amor_fati Liked your take on Pakhi's sly manipulation. I guess in between all the hullabaloo, she managed to understand that all was not well between SaiRat.


@bolded: I completely agree with this! I guess that is why after the cafe kaand, she will move on to trying to manipulate Sai 😭

What! A! Victim! 👏

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Pooja , ek question hai sai konse rights assert kar rahi virat pe , matlab unko ye yaad nhi unko koi haq nhj Virat pe , na koi bhi questions karne ka haq hai coz she gave up her wifely rights on virat to fulfill pakhi's dream.


Sai joshi lack guts to speak truth , she never dared to inform virat about her Bheeshma pratigya to pakhi kept on enjoying virat's romantic advances & attention .


To mera yahi question konsa haq jama rahi virat pe ?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Amor_fati

Loved your analysis... especially the first sentence...😆

You have captured Sai and Virat's feelings with absolute precision

Here are my 2 cents in the cafe decision, though I am 100 percent sure that his decision to go and meet her alone was reprehensible.

When Pakhi approached him and asked for a meeting.. He was not thinking about the implications in the lines of How Sai would feel or how Sammy would act?...at this point he was just thinking about his brother.. He wants to rewrite the past somehow. His intentions were to speak to her and read her mind and do right by his brother. He wants to make sure that she receives the message loud and clear that he has moved on and so must she. She must continue to live with Samrat if and only she feels she can commit herself completely to him.

This was exactly why he asked her whether she spoke to Samrat? I don't think he listened to her response fully.. when she said woh bhi.. He nodded so fast and accepted to meet her because he wanted her to leave that place immediately.... He did not want Sammy to find her in his room and create a whole lot of chaos again.

Coming to choosing a cafe in the vicinity of Sai's college and committing to a time exactly when Sai leaves... eh....We call him Dumbo Chavan for the right reasons..🤣

I agree everything you said about Pakhi, in addition I felt that the despicable woman was trying to gauge Sai's reactions when she said Virat is all hers.. She wanted Sai to react her usual self and say its all a deal marriage and Virat is not hers.. She wanted to prove to Virat once again that Sai does not have feelings for him..

Her vileness meter rises every time she opens her mouth.. Soon it will explode 🤣


I felt bad for Sai...😭 May be this time when she feels bad on seeing Virat and Didi dearest together she will self introspect and realize she has been in love all along and that is the reason it hurts her the most every time she sees them together..

Responded about my thoughts on him agreeing to meet Pakhi and tagged you so won't copy paste here 🤣


@bold I don't want this to happen. Her realization should be because of what she and Virat have between them, and shouldn't be because of any 3rd person that too someone vile like Pakhi. It would be an insult to their love.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjuRish

I concur with your opinion and today what he did cannot be justified 😤 unless brain freeze due to fever is one.

What Sai said about mohit and aai about supporting her came across to Sam. So he knows how straight forward she is. He also the first to understand her perspective is she cares and Maybe holding back due to virats behaviour or vaada and not clearly communicating and thinks he must talk to her. This shows he does cares for sairat. Surprise that ninad said a nice thing about Sai bai but is it to gain brownie points with Sam since sam has some affection for Sai ?. It became evident today that sam does care for Sai.

Nothing can justify Virat behaviour now. First sai gave him another opening to speak clearly when she asked him.

Most imp when pp asked to meet he decided to meet without any thoughts on how it can impact Sam 😠😠😠. Total dumb decision. He is mad at sai so not telling her but not keeping an elder like maybe his aai and Sam in loop is silly. He knows pp too he must have kept a exit strategy by keeping someone in loop. Can't understand which angle he is a cop😏😏😏😏

Again I could have stad. Sam for being empathic , brutally honest but his leaving army has made me slightly uncomfortable

No words about the precap. Sam wants divorce so pp is free but vir has told pp na that he loves sai. Then How can pp say this is an opportunity for us ??.

Honestly what does pp see in Vir

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