How's Sai an icon of feminism? - Page 2

Originally posted by: Moonks

If you want a real life example of an educated women not filing police complaint even after being a victim of domestic violence like literal violence of beatings then I have many examples and in one of the cases girl's father was dcp of the area.

A girl has to think many things before taking an action not that I am supporting their decision but it's their choice to make and sai did give back the chauvan's what they deserve just police complaint was not enough.

And feminism is not imprisoning someone it just means to stand up for yourself and treating yourself equal to any person in the society and I think which sai has done, she didn't take anyone's atrocities just like that she gave it back with interest.

I know many of us may think her decision was wrong but we have to accept that it is only victims decision to take.

I know of many girls who just didn't file any police complaint and also living with the same abusive in laws who has beaten them not because they were not educated or aware of their rights but because they were not financially independent which is more than important for every single person on this earth. And it takes a lot of guts to fight against the people whom we think as ours. It doesn't mean that girl is wrong.

Is feminism sahi mauke ka fayda uthna , utna hi sach bolna jitne se khud ko fayda ho .

Is pakhi not woman ,how she can question on her character publically .

Feminism ye kehta ki insult other when u r not happy with them , question on their character s

Goddess Sita is true feminist icon who never return to a place where her respect is questioned repeatedly , her last words should be idol for every woman.

No amount of apology could change her decision

Originally posted by: idkwhattoput

She is — by raising voice, not just for herself, she has done it for her mother in law too, and holding her head high, leaving. In spite of having no family to return to, her home in GC being unsafe, the neighbourhood drama was to protect Devyani (again, sisters before misters).

It will inspire women to raise their voices, to not be silent or cry outside and wait for their husbands to come around. Filing a complain is her individual decision — another woman seeing her may be inspired and go to the extent of doing it.

As for why she will come back later, this hasn’t happened yet so no discussion on this. Living in the moment, at present, she still represents a fierce woman breaking free from the shackles of patriarchy.

Aren't we saying this is domestic violence because Virat threw her out so @bold is not true, moreover SC has ruled that women have rights on their husband's house, he can't throw her out so again leaving and going to a place where she was kidnapped, harassed, almost molested and forced to marry is not empowering anyone

How does neighborhood drama protect Devyani?

Neighbors don't have jurisdiction in India, Police and Court is there to protect citizens of India, I don't get this advocacy for telling neighbors about something over actually reporting a crime

You know neighbors don't have any right to do anything

Filing a complaint is her individual decision but her actions don't inspire or shouldn't inspire women, any woman should take legal route to get justice

It maybe right or wrong for an individual but when we say she is inspiration for women, do you really support this?

Originally posted by: laksh

I have seen numerous discussions on Sai being an icon and inspiration for women therefore this post

I don't think she should or she is an icon

Originally posted by: NoraSM

This is one perspective then how is she inspiring women by not filing complaint against atrocities of her in laws? This is the question

She did shame him and accused Virat of EMA

I am sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say and how is this relevant to my post

I think the biggest joke in this entire topic is that that here we are expecting Sai to file police complaint against her husband and in laws for their mistreatment of her, when her husband IS a police officer She's an 18 years old student and an orphan who is mostly financially dependant on her husband for food and living expenses, whilst he's a fully educated grown man working as a police officer and is doing all this and allowing all this to his wife, so questioning why Sai has not filed a police case against Virat and his family seems a painfully laughable idea to me.

This is the same IPS officer who trained under Sai's police officer father, who decided to marry Sai to fulfill his responsibility of protecting Sai, who saved Sai from sexual harassment and forced marriage by GC's local politician's son Jagtap, took her out of GC to keep her safe from Jagtap, forbid her to go back to GC out of fear of her safety when she wanted to access her father's money, and now this same IPS officer husband of hers kicked her out of his house at night and told her to go back to that very same place where she is in danger and where he said is too unsafe for her to go back.

When her husband being a police officer is doing all this to her, are we seriously questioning why a 18 year old girl who is financially dependant on this police officer husband of hers is not filing a case against him and his family?

Whereas Sai being an icon of feminism is concerned, sorry but I don't know about giving her this title or not due to her financial status explained above, but the fact that we have see even educated working women on itv silently taking abuse from her in-laws and her husband, and for the sake of societal expectations she does not answer back to her abusive in-laws and goes out of her way to please her in-laws by putting her self-respect at stake always, Sai by a far margin is miles better as she tries not to compromise on her self-respect in the name of pleasing her in-laws and winning their hearts.

Despite being financially dependant on her husband she does not think it is necessary that she has to be a doormat or people-please for her husband and in-laws and take their verbal abuse, despite at times being wrong herself by being unnecessarily rude to Virat and not respecting few of his wishes, although her venting her frustrations and questioning him regarding pakhi is justified to me.

Both of these characters are incredibly flawed, but it is Virat's character and his actions that are the most incomprehensible and often make a joke of a police officer.

Originally posted by: sammy17

I think the biggest joke in this entire topic is that that here we are expecting Sai to file police complaint against her husband and in laws for their mistreatment of her, when her husband IS a police officer She's an 18 years old student and an orphan who is mostly financially dependant on her husband for food and living expenses, whilst he's a fully educated grown man working as a police officer and is doing all this and allowing all this to his wife, so questioning why Sai has not filed a police case against Virat and his family seems a painfully laughable idea to me.

This is the same IPS officer who trained under Sai's police officer father, who decided to marry Sai to fulfill his responsibility of protecting Sai, who saved Sai from sexual harassment and forced marriage by GC's local politician's son Jagtap, took her out of GC to keep her safe from Jagtap, forbid her to go back to GC out of fear of her safety when she wanted to access her father's money, and now this same IPS officer husband of hers kicked her out of his house at night and told her to go back to that very same place where she is in danger and where he said is too unsafe for her to go back.

When her husband being a police officer is doing all this to her, are we seriously questioning why a 18 year old girl who is financially dependant on this police officer husband of hers is not filing a case against him and his family?

Whereas Sai being an icon of feminism is concerned, sorry but I don't know about giving her this title or not due to her financial status explained above, but the fact that we have see even educated working women on itv silently taking abuse from her in-laws and her husband, and for the sake of societal expectations she does not answer back to her abusive in-laws and goes out of her way to please her in-laws by putting her self-respect at stake always, Sai by a far margin is miles better as she tries not to compromise on her self-respect in the name of pleasing her in-laws and winning their hearts.

Despite being financially dependant on her husband she does not think it is necessary that she has to be a doormat or people-please for her husband and in-laws and take their verbal abuse, despite at times being wrong herself by being unnecessarily rude to Virat and not respecting few of his wishes, although her venting her frustrations and questioning him regarding pakhi is justified to me.

Both of these characters are incredibly flawed, but it is Virat's character and his actions that are the most incomprehensible and often make a joke of a police officer.

They haven't shown anything about Sai not filing police complaint because Virat is a police officer and she is financially independent in him, If Sai is shown thinking in this direction, we'll discuss it

Then again, just because he is a police officer shouldn't she file a case against him, he is a bad one but she has example of her father too

I am not sure about Sai's financial condition, her father was a government officer and she has scholarship

Anyway, How does this fit the "Icon of feminism" part because we do have people who fight against powerful people to get justice

Originally posted by: NoraSM

I have seen numerous discussions on Sai being an icon and inspiration for women therefore this post

I don't think she should or she is an icon

Real life people are always the best source of inspiration.

Originally posted by: laksh

Real life people are always the best source of inspiration.

Precisely

Ending with this 🤗

We should take into consideration the show context before making such blanket statement. Firstly, sai didn't accuse him of ema - she just said the truth : pakhi keeps searching for moments to speak and stay close with virat. It was just plain truth. Secondly, about her returning to the same home , it hasn't happened yet, I'd like to see how it plays out before commenting on it. I know nothing about what made her return.

Now coming to why sai is being lauded for standing up for herself. She did the best she could given the situation. Police station is out of context because she is indebted to virat. Virat has looked after her at her lowest point, how can she replay him by going to the police and making him lose his job? It would have been a point on no return for this show. I can bet you the same people crying about sai not going to the police station would have made 10000 posts about how virat has lost his job because of ungrateful sai and victimise him even more.

She is grateful to virat but not at the cost of her self respect. The tamasha was just the way she could stand for herself and taking it as fiction, it makes sense. The chavans love their fake izzat more than anything. Attacking them where it hurts was the best she could do.

We have x number of shows where heroine gets kicked out and walks aimlessly in street after begging forgiveness before her in laws. Sai character is a refreshing change in this case and it pleased me to see a female lead valuing her self respect.

Originally posted by: Shristhi2002

Okay ,don't take me seriously🤣

I am not into defence or offence, or I don't consider Sai an icon of feminism as you have suggested.

I just share my POV reagrding Sai and your questions.

See, my point is clear,look ,why should one be given special rights in society which preaches equality? Equality means when everything is balanced right. I believe a woman is not confined to kitchen and niether is a man confined to external matters. Both should have equal rights in everything. If a man is interested in staying at home and be at peace, he should be allowed as well to do what he wants, and so should a woman be given all rights, not permission,I hope you are getting it.

So, if a woman has to speak,why does she need rights? Why do I or anyone want a right given to them to speak or support that speech? For me,at that point, Sai comes out, she doesn't need permission or right to speak for herself, or in any matter which is wrong. That's it. Nothing special here.🤗

See as you itself suggested, many woman require rights to speak, and one shouldn't need that. A woman doesn't need her husband's, her in-laws permission to speak, she shouldn't require permission to speak, that is what Sai does, she fights against authority, that's what stands out to me atleast . Freedom of speech should be followed, none of here need special rights to do this.

And reagrding your question,if she returns, i have even saw a male accept his wife doing crimes, that's just thier decision here,their individual life, we all are seeing Sai, but that Sai has an individual life. And she has took her decision , and why should anyone, Sai or Virat ,fear what the society says or what message do they give in an individual decision. And individual thought without manipulation for me is also somewhere or the ogjer empowerment. Cuz,Sai has took her decision,she was nit made to.This is another problem ,biggest one-" sabse bada rog, kya kehte hai log".

So,this is what I feel regarding your topic.🤗❤

@bold- Agree with this as one of my distant uncles was cheated on by his wife, and the moment his sister suggested him he should divorce her and send her back to her mother's and he started considering it, his wife behind his back called the police and lied that she was scared for her life living with him because he beat her up. The police after a few hours of questioning and family statements, including her sister's who covered her affair for her for a while and is married to the same uncle's cousin gave statement against her sister in guilt and most likely out of fear of her own marriage being affected, so she confessed her sister's affair and lie to the police so my uncle was saved. And despite that he forgave his wife.

So even some men forgive, forget and tolerate such behaviours of their wives that are hurtful and harm their self-respect just like how many women tolerate and forgive their husband's and in-law's mistreatment of her and that is their individual decision to forgive and forget, so we can't start calling it acceptance of abuse so freely when often that forgiveness comes from an expectation and belief that it will never happen again, because walking away from marriage is a painful and tough decision for both men and women alike.