Ashwini Aai - Godu Aka Virat - Discussion - Page 2

Originally posted by: Shristhi2002

Did arise a few times.

My pov is this,

Let's consider Aai ,and along with her,hamari not so pyaari Patralekha first-

So, why does she chide Patralekha always. First of all, aai is mother of all kids in the CN. So,the strictness not only comes from didi being after Virat,but from a sense of maternal instinct. She cares for Samrat like a son,and she is not at all happy ,that her son's wife does not love or respect him,but instead is openly after an another man(lets ignore it is Virat for a moment) ,so it is morally wrong. She is not okay with this. And what instigates Aai more is more of Sai's reason here,"Pakhi didi apna pyaar chupaati nahi hai",she is openly expressing her feelings for her devar even though she is married to another man. It doesn't set right to her.

Two,this matter is a bit touche to aai. "Pati,patni aur Vaini",did it ring a bell. And in this case ,two arcs are there,if Samrat would be present,then "Bhai ,biwi aur devar" arc and with Sai,"Pati,patni aur vaini" arc. Dono ki villain same hai,but the realtions at stake are greater,a sibling relation and a martial relation. And Aai has endured a lot in this,sacrificed a lot,lost a lot,so this a bit personal to her as well. Uss vaini ko toh kuch nahi har sakti,par iss vaini ko toh control kar sakti hai,as she has right as a elder.

Coming to your claim,why not Virat-

As a mother,your claim is one. She trusts her son,that he would not follow this path. As some where or the other, Virat knows the dynamics of his parents relationship, (balcony confrontations)and she trusts that he will not take such a step.

And the thing here is,doobne wale ko tinke ka sahara.And here Sai has saved Virat. Now,he is also not single,he has a wife,and a dangerous one at it. So if Virat was single ,then she might have,but now Sai is a major hurdle for pakhi,as she(sai) is the wife and aai had made that sure infront of society.So,till Sai is happy,lets say Virat is safe. But,now as I already claimed above,Virat knows and respects relation, so he won't do something. And we all agree that Virat is very much loyal to Sai.

So,this was my pov here.❤

Did any of you guys feel that Aai should have spoken to Virat about his relationship with Pakhi?

I have felt it, tried to understand and below is my understanding.

Because she never misses a chance to taunt and reprimand Pakhi for her behaviour towards Virat.

Pakhi and her attitude is the answer. It is not just belief in her son and her upbringing that is the reason for this, Pakhi's behavior, her actions, her inability to see Samrat as her husband, her inability to accept her marriage, failing to try to work on it, failing to act like a wife.

Ever since she became aware of Pakhi's and Virat's past, she has been observing Pakhi.

Ashwini couldn't see Pakhi getting upset that Samrat left but instead was missing Virat.

She didn't care to stay in touch with Samrat but kept calling Virat.

She probably even heard "Virat" and never heard "Samrat" like how Sai said din me 100 ya 200 baar mere pati ka naam lete hain aap.

Let's go back to the time when Virat was in GC

Pakhi was a married woman then and even though Aai would expect Virat to behave morally right, it would be expected from Pakhi as well.

Pakhi was living right in front of her eyes and she could see her behavior.

Pakhi was married and she was expected to behave like one.

If Virat never got married to Sai, Virat would have buried Paakhi's love in his heart and would have never decided to move on in his life. Even if there was no waada, he can decide on his own to not move on his life.

What about Pakhi? Pakhi should also be burying her feelings for Virat. But since she was married to Samrat, she would have been expected to move on, isn't it? Ashwini never saw Pakhi taking any efforts to move on.

Ashwini could never see Pakhi trying to accept the marriage, respecting the marriage, the vachans that they took were direspected and she was least bothered about her husband who left to Ladakh.

On the contrary after Virat's marriage

Virat as a married man

Virat came home after his marriage. He kept supporting Sai, he tried his best to make his family accept Sai, he called her his wife and had accepted his marriage in front of all.

It was too early to tell during Grihapravesh, but then when she first hugged Sai, Virat asked Aai to give her food. Ever since they came home, she could see him fulfilling duties of a husband.

That same night Ashwini seem to have seen the best friends and next day morning Aai confronted Pakhi, why? She had no trust or hopes from Pakhi, it was all lost even before Virat came home. Whereas Virat earned a small amount of trust as soon as he came home.

Throughout the time, they have all been spending time together, Aai keeps observing both Pakhi and Virat and their actions.

Virat has been acting as a husband though Sai had shared that it was only a marriage of deal.

Aai could see how much Virat was giving for this marriage, she is able to see his efforts in trying to make the marriage work and efforts in trying to protect his wife, support his wife and also the amount of care he has for Sai.

Pakhi's love for Virat is visible and Virat's feelings and loyalty for Sai is visible to Ashwini.

She is able to see, how when Pakhi is disrespecting her marriage, Virat is faithful towards his deal wife too.

Aai is not seeing Pakhi's interest in Virat or love for Virat, she is able to sense it turning to obsession and that is alarming.

When there was a fighteen between Virat and Sai, Pakhi was getting desperate to go to their room, how can this desperation be ignored?

Out of jealousy, she made Sai grind chillies and also acted inhuman by taunting her or telling that Sai was doing drama by crying. Aai pointed it right then to Pakhi.

Everytime, Pakhi got an opportunity, she tried to turn Virat against Sai. She notices her hatred for Sai which is not a healthy behavior. People can feel jealous, but the jealousy shouldn't turn dangerous and Aai is witnessing how vile Pakhi is turning into,in this jealousy. She will burn and she will burn down everyone with her if not warned on time.

Coming to the dinner scene when Virat was mad on Sai because of Aniket, Ashwini heard noise from their room and she also heard him calling Pakhi. She noticed Pakhi saying she will get him dinner.

First thing Aai should have done is, scolding Virat to have asked Pakhi for dinner. She could have simply asked why he couldn't ask her for dinner. I agree, she should have.

The snide remark that she gave to Pakhi while leaving was very much essential. I agree she should have scolded Virat. But Pakhi should have asked Virat to wait at the table and that she will serve him his food. Why did she offer to bring food to her room for him to eat?

And then when Virat spoke to Aai at the dining table, she could see an emotional Virat, a stressed Virat. But that is not it, she could see that something about Sai was bothering him, his mouth and head only had Sai in it.

When she said she understands his position, first thing he said was Sai doesn't understand him. The way he was curious to know if Sai said she will scold him, the way he said how she always fights with him.

The next day Sai shared with Aai what had happened and Aai understood that it was Sai who brought Pakhi's name and not Virat.

Hence she suggested to Sai, not to bring Pakhi between them and asked her to do things for Virat.

So she didn't see any necessity to talk to Virat about it later.

The Ladakh thing

As soon as it was proposed and when Aai could, she suggested Sai to be taken too. Aai could see that Virat liked the idea.

She also said on the day they were about to leave that a husband will ask if the wife is ready or not, when he is taking his wife out for the first time. She had to break his reverie when he was lost in Sai. Nothing goes unnoticed by Aai.

Aai could see and could understand everything Virat spoke to Kaku or Pakhi that day. She could see his sincerity, his care, and even love for Sai.

Later when she asked them to go out and they both refused, she thought it was the right time and she showed Virat the good qualities of Sai as how understandable Sai was and how Sai acted magnanimously.

Her focus is on getting these two to understand each other better. She is trying to make both of them look at each other's goodness and care.

Ashwini heard from Sai how Virat fed her, how he applied medicines on her feet. She saw him looking for baking soda herself.

The scene where Pakhi takes food for Virat, it was Pakhi who went to Virat and she also could see he had returned the food and wasn't interested in eating. When she met Virat, she could see that his mind was fully occupied only with Sai. There was no use or necessity to talk about Pakhi even then, she had to first make him realise his mistake and make him sort things with Sai. That task was more important at that point of time.

Pakhi was complaining the next day that Virat had got food for Sai and also fed her. Aai even asked why should all these be a problem.

That day Aai saw how Virat stood up for Sai and how he fought with his family members and even volunteered to leave the house with her.

So why can’t she talk to her son and question him about his past? Also make him see some sense regarding Pakhi? Or tell him how Pakhi treats Sai?

I have answered above. Have listed some scenes to elaborate my points.

She is more focussed on getting Sai and Virat closer and to make them understand each other better.

She knows they had a past, but doesn't see any necessity at the moment to confront Virat about it.

When she can see that he is moving on with Sai and he has kept his past as past and not letting his past affect him, not letting his past affect his behavior or his relationship with Sai, she doesn't find it necessary to talk about it to him.

When she cannot find any traces of past in his current behavior and life, why bring it up?

On the other hand, Pakhi is living in past and she hasn't even come out of it which is clearly visible to her.

If, at any point of time, she had seen his past playing a role in anyway, in the present, be it in his behavior or judgement, she would have reprimanded him.

Imo Ashwini not asking questions makes her a typical mother who thinks that her son can never go wrong. And also making the woman take responsibility for the dalliance! ( I know I am going to get chappals for this. But please guys look at the bigger picture here)

No chappals 😂😂, it is natural to think that way.

It is not Ashwini's trust or faith in Virat that makes her think he can never go wrong. Virat has earned that trust through his actions and behaviour.

Whereas not only Ashwini lost trust in Pakhi, Pakhi seem to be going towards a path where there is no return.

If Pakhi was the daughter of the house and Virat, a son in law, Ashwini would have still done the same.

Thanks for tagging me 😳

Originally posted by: laksh

Awesome explanation 👏

Coming to the dinner scene when Virat was mad on Sai because of Aniket, Ashwini heard noise from their room and she also heard him calling Pakhi. She noticed Pakhi saying she will get him dinner.

First thing Aai should have done is, scolding Virat to have asked Pakhi for dinner. She could have simply asked why he couldn't ask her for dinner. I agree, she should have.

The snide remark that she gave to Pakhi while leaving was very much essential. I agree she should have scolded Virat. But Pakhi should have asked Virat to wait at the table and that she will serve him his food. Why did she offer to bring food to her room for him to eat?

Tbh I didn’t find the above mentioned scene odd or wrong from Virat side. Because for Virat he would never cross the line with Pakhi though it’s different story with her. One of the things I like about him is (though we all tell him to stop talking in jelebhis) he genuinely wants to be her friend and support Pakhi in Samrat’s absence.

And then when Virat spoke to Aai at the dining table, she could see an emotional Virat, a stressed Virat. But that is not it, she could see that something about Sai was bothering him, his mouth and head only had Sai in it.

One of the most poignant moments between them and my favourite ❤️

Her focus is on getting these two to understand each other better. She is trying to make both of them look at each other's goodness and care.

So why can’t she talk to her son and question him about his past? Also make him see some sense regarding Pakhi? Or tell him how Pakhi treats Sai?

I have answered above. Have listed some scenes to elaborate my points.

She is more focussed on getting Sai and Virat closer and to make them understand each other better.

She knows they had a past, but doesn't see any necessity at the moment to confront Virat about it.

When she can see that he is moving on with Sai and he has kept his past as past and not letting his past affect him, not letting his past affect his behavior or his relationship with Sai, she doesn't find it necessary to talk about it to him.

When she cannot find any traces of past in his current behavior and life, why bring it up?

On the other hand, Pakhi is living in past and she hasn't even come out of it which is clearly visible to her.

If, at any point of time, she had seen his past playing a role in anyway, in the present, be it in his behavior or judgement, she would have reprimanded him.

Makes sense

Imo Ashwini not asking questions makes her a typical mother who thinks that her son can never go wrong. And also making the woman take responsibility for the dalliance! ( I know I am going to get chappals for this. But please guys look at the bigger picture here)

No chappals 😂😂, it is natural to think that way.

It is not Ashwini's trust or faith in Virat that makes her think he can never go wrong. Virat has earned that trust through his actions and behaviour.

Whereas not only Ashwini lost trust in Pakhi, Pakhi seem to be going towards a path where there is no return.

If Pakhi was the daughter of the house and Virat, a son in law, Ashwini would have still done the same.

That was so brilliantly written in so many layers with scenes. I lived through those episodes while reading it. I should thank you for taking time and explaining it to me. ❤️💐🤗

Thanks for tagging me 😳

Originally posted by: jane_austen

Hi Niki.....

I have two theories why Ashwini does not confront Virat about Pakhi being the third wheel in his marriage.

One - She has 'Raja Beta' syndrome. She believes like other mothers suffering from this syndrome that her godu will never do anything wrong (which is true, he will not cross the line with Pakhi). But fails to point out the mistakes that her son makes, and puts the onus of taking corrective measures in the marriage on the daughter-in-law.

Two - She perceives Virat's flaws - his inability to sort out or express his emotions and him being a confused atma. I've seen some parents not able to deal with or have a talk with their confused children - so I'm basing my argument on that. Ashwini as we know is not one to give tough love (which is needed from parents at times). Perhaps she is apprehensive of how her advise in this matter will be received (denial? silence? shutting down?) by Virat - since she knows that it is a very touchy subject for her confused son. She knows Sai is the more emotionally sorted one - so she is hoping that Sai's positive move towards Virat (who she knows is attached to Sai) will naturally sort this matter out. This is not a wise thing to do, but that is Ashwini's flaw - her weak way of dealing with her child. Hope this is making sense. 🤓

I kept leaning towards your number one theory before reading @laksh post.

I would go with theory 2 now.

Thanks for sharing your views ❤️🤗💐

Originally posted by: KBBofRCIBC

This issue has been nagging me for a while, to be exact from the episode where Ashwini Aai reprimanded Pakhi about not going after doosaron ka pathi.

Aai has been the pillar of support for Sai from day one. (Not considering her change of heart in the Pulkit kidnap story for now)
Did any of you guys feel that Aai should have spoken to Virat about his relationship with Pakhi? At least after the Ladakh episode?

Because she never misses a chance to taunt and reprimand Pakhi for her behaviour towards Virat.

So why can’t she talk to her son and question him about his past? Also make him see some sense regarding Pakhi? Or tell him how Pakhi treats Sai?

Imo Ashwini not asking questions makes her a typical mother who thinks that her son can never go wrong. And also making the woman take responsibility for the dalliance! ( I know I am going to get chappals for this. But please guys look at the bigger picture here)


For me it makes sense and not out of character for Ashwini and also a good TRP drama. Imagine Saas pulling up her own son for the bahu. Ashwini will get the best Saas award in star pariwar awards 😉😁

PS: someone did start a similar topic, before I could read through and reply I lost it.

So restarting the topic and tagging few people. Tagging for the first time. In case you are not part of GHKPM forum sorry.

Everyone has said almost everything about this issue of her reprimanding Patralekha and I agree with most views, but it actually does not take away from the fact that she definitely needs to have a conversation about a lot of things with Virat. Not just Patralekha. While I agree that she sees more reason to rebuke Vahini instead of talking to Virat because she can see the difference -- as many have pointed out. They had a "past" (whatever joke that 1.47 hours love story was) but once married, Virat's loyalty towards his wife has never been questionable. It is for everyone to see. But in Vahini's case, no one knows who she is actually married to!

In the initial scene after the gruh pravesh, where she chastises Patralekha for the terrace conversation, I thought she was unfair because she should have spoken to Virat as well. But one must also recall that Ashwini said she overheard the conversation and she definitely overheard Vahini's "Meri Zindagi mein tumhari kya jagah hai?" and Virat's "Sabse acche dost ki..." and maybe she also overheard her "Samrat ke liye mere mann mein koi feelings nahi hai"... So, to her mind, Virat had just brought home a 'wife' and fought for his marriage, was visibly stressed, had a mountain to climb already and had given a 'satisfactory' reply to Vahini on the terrace. Ashwini did question him about his need to send Patralekha to get Sai dressed up for one of the rituals -- and Virat asked her why was she taunting a 'family member'. Ashwini's reply was stern and it was a warning about how she will speak if she finds it necessary.

Even during the Ladakh outing, she saw Virat's stand (although he diluted his own anger with his do talwaar dialogue, which should have been for Vahini and Kaku and not for Vahini and Sai, actually), she also saw him fobbing her off during Sai's admission debate, during the time she was leaving the house, during her attempt to feed him aloowadi when he was in a foul mood after his fight with Sai... so in her mind, which is definitely also a mind of a mother with the Godu-bachcha complex, Virat has not given her a signal that should trigger her anxiety about his intentions. Yes, I do believe that the day he barged into Samrat's bedroom asking his wife to serve him dinner, she should have also chastisted Virat. If she didn't want to, her look to Vahini was unfair -- although I completely agree with the point raised above about the fact that she offered to get him dinner in her bedroom instead of telling him to come to the dining area. But, at that moment, Ashwini did not know what happened between Sai and Virat (and even if it did), he had no business to barge into that room asking for dinner even in his anger. His mother was very much around and he could have gone to his mother -- we did have a huge discussion about this that day.

I also agree that she pushes Sai more than Virat to accept the marriage -- but again, that is because she is a mother who knows her son. I believe she knows Virat would never have a deal wedding. Although she doesn't know about the "vaada" part, but only the "samjhauta" part, I think she understands that Virat has probably said that to console Sai, who is really young and rebellious right now. She also understands the circumstances they married in and she's aware that there is a certain awkwardness between them along with the deep trust and care they share. She's trying to have Sai open her mind as a "woman" -- because at the end of the day, she's actually married now. Also, when Sai starts exercising her rights as a wife, Vahini will automatically have to step back because Sai will cement her marriage on her own. Virat, on that front, is already ahead of Sai from Ashwini's perspective. Whenever she talks to him about Sai, he doesn't 'deny' or cut it off with negative words like "aisa nahi hai", which is Sai's standard reply. She's trying to get Sai to come out of that negative feeling about the relationship. Now, I actually do not like her pushing only Sai but that is her intention-- because she, as a third person and not just as a mother, feels that Sai is not reciprocating Virat's gestures as she should. She's ignorant about the actual barrier between them and I believe that the day she learns about it, she will definitely give Virat an earful maybe (if we are ever told). At the moment, she feels Sai is a reluctant teenager with a misconception about the intentions her 'caring and loving' husband has -- she is also somewhat old school and so she does think that it is the wife that can keep a marriage strong (and going) and that is what she has been doing for whatever reasons in her own life.

Coming to talking to Virat part: It is badly needed, in general. There is a lot she tends to hide and asks others to hide. It has been part of her conditioning that she has given her son to shield him from the bitter truths of the family. It is actually wrong but Ashwini might have her reasons for it... may be to ensure that he did not grow up a "broken child". Instead, he's only grown up as a rather 'silent man', who can even let some level of 'bias' slip by, until it reaches a point where holding the head above the water is impossible --and it is a question of the larger choice of good and bad for the sake of natural justice. She has raised a fine man but he's also a man who largely cannot deal with a conflict situation that involves emotions. Only if she had been more transparent about the truths-- but we can only judge her. A mother has her reasons.

Originally posted by: Svt611

Agreed with what you said shristhi!

but I also feel it is a little patriarchal in bits and pieces.. For example- when the aniket thing happened and virat got jealous and stormed to pakhi's room, that was the time when aai as a mother should have spoken to virat regarding the pakhi matter...

Yes she can see virat falling in love with sai but she also is aware of sai's wall.. the better thing to do would be to help virat realize his feeling for sai, and make it clear to sai what he feels. Till that does not happen sai will live in this belief that virat loves pakhi.. As sai said post the ladakh trip fiasco, that pakhi does not hide her feeling and virat doesn't acknowledge/understand his...

As a mother, you know what your child feels and aai being a mother who has strong instincts knows this as well.....

Well, I do hope when sai leaves both Aai and Virat think about these things... and help each other realize each others mistakes.

This would be really nice if Ashwini and Virat can talk about both Pakhi and Sai during separation.

At the end everything kind of boils down to Virat clearly saying to Sai that he doesn’t have any feelings for Pakhi and she is just his past.

Originally posted by: KBBofRCIBC

Tbh I didn’t find the above mentioned scene odd or wrong from Virat side. Because for Virat he would never cross the line with Pakhi though it’s different story with her. One of the things I like about him is (though we all tell him to stop talking in jelebhis) he genuinely wants to be her friend and support Pakhi in Samrat’s absence.

It is not that he shouldnt have gone to her room, it is just that he need not be asking her for dinner. I am not talking about him actually. I was talking about how Aai could have asked him why he didn't ask for food from her and why does he have to call Paakhi for his food. He did shout from his room anyway and she heard it.

But she did ask that he need not have in Paakhi's room and that shocked him. Thida thoda jhatka toh dena chahiye 😂

One of the most poignant moments between them and my favourite ❤️

Yeah, was beautiful ❤

That was so brilliantly written in so many layers with scenes. I lived through those episodes while reading it. I should thank you for taking time and explaining it to me. ❤️💐

Thank you, pleasure all mine ❤❤