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Posted: 4 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: scarlett22

Fighting in public and apologising in private is not romantic, according to me.

Elders say people will treat your wife with respect if you treat her with respect. It does not even have to be a fight, it can be invalidation of choice, subjugation..in the public eye. People pick up these nuances.


Fight in public ... apologise in public...😆


Apologise in public for sure to let the audience know you are done- but it will be superficial. The deep making-up and healing can and should happen only in private. And it is not romantic. Not at all.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: ThruMyEyez-Nita

Janki, kudos to you for being able to write another brilliant analysis on an emotionally wrenching episode!


Sai and Virat's hurt was so apparent today and both of them in their own way escalated their hurt to levels that will either make or break their relationship. I do not know how many more high voltage episodes we will get - but all I hope for is that the resolution is equally gripping and satisfying.


It is darkest before the dawn... ❤️

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Posted: 4 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: _Seera_

Great Analysis! I completely agree both are at fault. The moment when the only defense left is to scar the other person and take it as a victory.. this was that moment in Sai and Virat's relationship.


Sai was never OK with deal marriage.. she can say anything and pretend "Farak nahi padata" but it hurts her and she is just trying to hide the hurt behind her outbursts. It doesn't make it right but definitely makes it sad. She can handle things better and yes age definitely makes difference on how you deal with unwanted situations. The current Sai just wants to hurt so everyone can feel her pain. They are feeling it but will it change any hearts.. I doubt..


Virat's wada to pakhi was to keep her and only her in his heart but that train has long passed. The last scene feels like band aid is going to come of from DOSTI. Virat will get Sai's POV as Pakhi will tell him she is always there for him and Pakhi will take one step closer to becoming darker shaded character as she will start to act upon her intensions.

i hope that is what happens tomorrow, virat getting sai’s pov but i do not have high hopes regarding the same. i feel sai would still not have opened about virakhi’s past if not for him saying she is ehsan faramosh and bk instigating the end of marriage. i know it was wrong of sai to have taken their fight into public but she was left with no choice when everyone of their private moments are tainted by crowd(pakhi). i remember after dig fiasco when sai said that virat has done lots of ehsan on her , virat said that he did not do any ehsan but just fulfilled his responsibility and today he goes on to call her ehsan faramosh. does that mean his feelings for her are also ehsan? or does that mean i have done so many life saving favors so you should tolerate all the abuse that me, my ex and my family members mete out to you?

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Posted: 4 years ago
#44


Guess you are right, may be that's the reason he kept on saying go to your room. He just wanted to talk and clear the air may be but the things went out of hand.

Well lets see how and when the conversation happens. Its going to be a difficult one and he is the one who needs to initiate it. But with his current mind it looks difficult.


I have a question though, why did he have to run to Vahini's room and why is Vahini around him all of a sudden. Are they trying to show something with this or are they gonna go back to pavilion? Hope something good comes out of it. Chappal mat phekna 😵

On a positive side, think with the advances at least he would try to understand what Baiko said was right or atleast it could come across that way (if it isn't actually - Virat sir ke logic ke hisaab se).

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Posted: 4 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: sukri

Awesome post as always Janki. Though I make fun of episodes, the show continues to escalate its toxicity.


Sai reached a breaking point today. Virat said 2 words that Pakhi has fed him since he married Sai - ziddi and ehsaan faramosh. If he blurts it out that easily, is that what he thinks of her?

I don't think he thinks of her as ehsaan faramosh. Ziddi yes. But both are equally ziddi then... I don't think one must take his words at face value today. Both of them said things in their moment of complete distrust and disconnection from one another on purpose. It happens. It is toxic but almost everyone goes through such unworthy moments it at some point -- and this is their make or break fight.


Virat gets easily influenced by his family and all he cares is about pleasing them. If Virat is treated like a toy by Pakhi and Family, isn't he trying to do the same with Sai. Throw a tantrum when the toy refuses to do the bidding.

Of course. He needs to address his loss of control with Sai and address her questions too.


I felt like if he really cared about Sai and her safety, he would have followed her. Instead whats his first instinct, follow Pakhi. What does that mean to us as a viewer?

Yes, he should have followed her- Ashwini even mentioned it to Sai to take him along. But then, so much had been exchanged by the two of them with each other-- it was like completely tearing down everything that they could have built so far. Did he even think about following her? Regarding his immediate visit to PP's room --it was putting off. Let's see what is so compulsive about this need to visit her - his body language doesn't seem anything close to being there to cajole PP but to tell her that it is a misunderstanding between Sai and him and he is "apologetic" that Sai feels he has daba hua love for her because he doesn't. To me, it would only be of any worth to watch it if he expresses spashthly tells PP that Sai has misunderstood the feelings he has for her-- so that PP knows that there is no daba hua pyaar... and then he introspects why Sai feels so. Warna... 🤔 as you say below...


What is stopping him from letting Sai go and live a peaceful life outside?

If he cannot decide, he should let her go... She deserves peace, respect and better things in life which she cannot get in this toxic environment where he flips into toxicity in a matter of seconds of getting his husband ego bruised. It will also free him from the zimmedari that he is not able to handle. And, it is fine. Both of them can move on.


I understand why Sai had to tell the truth, coz the family disrespect her every day, already treat her like maid, third wheel, as if Virat is doing an ehsaan on her, inspite of her being his legally wedded wife. She is not given rights of bahu or wife, but expected to do the duties of bahu.

For what? For a deal? Virat leaves no chance to show how much he has done for her whenever he gets angry.

Despite her telling him openly her pain and suffering, he ignored it for 2 days, letting her simmer in it. It had to all come out.

By letting everyone know its a deal and she hinted why the deal happened (samjhdaar ko ishara kaafi hai).


Now virat has been given two options by Sai, either let go of Sai, but if he wants her to stay, draw a line with Pakhi and his family. Think 10 times before you misbehave next time, its not just for him, but his family too.

This outburst from Sai was the only way to push him to the corner where he has to decide. It wouldn't have happened otherwise because Virat is not the guy to disturb the "status quo"... He would have continued to expect without addressing the changed T&Cs -- which she mentioned today when she said, "If you can break the deal, so can I". I thought she said it in the sense of his expectations from her-- then it also comes with the duty to speak, address and protect the honour of that relationship under which he wants that right on her. She asked him the other day as well "Who has given you the right"... Hope he realised it now.


Pakhi also will have to be very careful if Sai stays back because now her every action will be looked at with different eyes.

I was surprised because she looked genuinely disgusted with virat's use of force but her need to continue to demean Sai even while asking him to watch his action totally took away the 'genuineness' that could have been for a change. And I also felt it was so significant that Sai turned to see PP and hear whatever she was talking about her as usual in "indirect speech" to Virat while Virat continued seeing Sai looking at PP... the "Don't interfere" was said too late, too late.


By throwing all this in open, she forced Virat to make a move that he was scared to make two days back.

Do or die... Choose or leave. There is no other way. I guess he will be pushed to do what he has never done so far in his life...


Not sure but it looked like Virat had a bit of disgust in his face when he said mere dil me tumhare liye hidden love. Looks like he gives her jalebi coz the precap scene might be happening after the return drama. So while he is happily chatting with his BFF, Sai will be packing to leave the nivas.

I am waiting to hear something more than a jalebi -- I am not sure if he gives her a jalebi or she gives him her usual zeher-laced assurance of "dosti and understanding". I cannot imagine what can be a more spashth response to the statement he has already uttered -- "She thinks you and I are in love. She says that you don't suppress your love and I don't express the love daba hua inside..."

To me,that in itself is a giveaway that it is not a fact for him, he has moved on and he's communicating it to PP -- why would it otherwise be "she thinks" and "she says"... Also, he looks uncomfortable and yes, ashamed - may be because his 'we' caused hurt to you in our argument look, i don't know. Uncomfortable may be because he knows it is a conversation that he doesn't want to have with PP or does he really have no memory of the vaada whatsoever? We will know tomorrow...

I am not sure if the Precap scenes are exact sequences so can't judge but he looks surprised/unsure of what she has said in the last part, it must be in context to something else and not what we heard. May be she said it again, "Bhool jaao Sai ko... jaane do..." she already tested waters during their last fight.. Let's see

Edited by jankiraghav - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: raji02

i hope that is what happens tomorrow, virat getting sai’s pov but i do not have high hopes regarding the same. i feel sai would still not have opened about virakhi’s past if not for him saying she is ehsan faramosh and bk instigating the end of marriage. i know it was wrong of sai to have taken their fight into public but she was left with no choice when everyone of their private moments are tainted by crowd(pakhi). i remember after dig fiasco when sai said that virat has done lots of ehsan on her , virat said that he did not do any ehsan but just fulfilled his responsibility and today he goes on to call her ehsan faramosh. does that mean his feelings for her are also ehsan? or does that mean i have done so many life saving favors so you should tolerate all the abuse that me, my ex and my family members mete out to you?

Bold underlined:
if he thinks that, then it’s wrong in so many ways and his character is not redeemable. He needs remember that Sai’s father took a bullet for him. If he didn’t request him to postpone the VRS things would have been different in Sai’s life ( and of course no story for us to discuss 😉)


But my point is like Janaki mentioned in the analysis lot of things were said in anger without giving a thought if the other would be hurt by their words. It was a also residue fight from the trip cancelation. Sai pent up angst anger came out without thinking of the place she was fighting. It was her way of saying I have reached my tolerance level. I give a damn attitude.

Hopefully Sai and Virat will not do tutu meinmein about who said what and how much was one hurt. At least I hope Virat should introspect of the words thrown around by both. Because he calls himself a mature person.


Edited by KBBofRCIBC - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: deepthi2014


@bold. I too felt the same...by saying such things and by opening a war front she has placed ashwini and Virat sir as perfect pawns in an uneven game of chess...anyone can play as per their choice...they will be left with nothing to defend for themselves...they have left to the mercy of the c gang...they will be very vulnerable now...I guess when Sai had opened the topic in the room itself Virat sir should have resolved it then n there by offering some explanation...y is that he gives unnecessary explanations to pyari dost and he can't speak a word infront of his Baiko??? I still remember him saying that "is ghar aise bhi log hain jo tumhe support karte hain" and I felt those supporting people have let down...


That's true but I won't blame her alone. It was Virat and she together who let Ashwini down by just escalating the fight. They were in such a vulnerable moment... and this time, Ashwini would have complete right in being upset with both of them.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: BlueJayFire

Beautiful analysis Janki. Yes, both are at fault, one assuming that he belongs to her and the other thinking he is someone else's bcos he had himself clarified. God has to help these two understand each other.


God ko aur kuch kaam hi nahi bacha, do ziddi, deeth logon ko apne muh kholke spashthly baat karwane ke badle. bechare bappa! 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: linakusharberry

Awesome Analysis janki just bang on one

Today iam in short of words to speak ,iam shocked to be honest with the turn of events

I didn't expected this revelation of virat and pakhi so called pyaardosti this soon before all all are left tongue tied tbh looks like they all realise this fact but still keeping their mouth shut like such a disgusting people they are ,

Yes, it is a bit soon-- I think now Samrat basically only needs to come back and reiterate what Sai has already said and add that he even heard the conversation of this hysterical woman going in psycho mode after the wedding -- I always had one doubt: Vahini keeps poking her nose saying Sai ki awaz neeche tak aa rahi hai... Uss din they used some special acoustic curtains as part of wedding decor? Vahini's "Main tumse pyaar karti hoon Virat" wali shrill spine chilling cheekh did not go out neeche ??? 🤔🥱😳


Both virat and sai are at ego now , but ab sab kuch sabki samneh hai about deal marriage 5 year contract everything now there is no turning back jho steps they have taken in this relationship sab barbaad hogayi everything back to square one agar rishta bachana hai they will have to keep aside this ego and clear everything I don't think sai will take this step because I can see that she has already given up on this relationship , now virat will have to clear it for her the real status of their relationship , what he feel , and make it clear to her he has moved on from pakhi , ab toh deal toh nahi raha I feel , I really can't see them like this , virat toh mujhe ek robot jaisa laga after sai left I really hope he make it clear to pakhi and keep her at a distance from now on , fingerscrossed I hope everything falls in its place , iam person who believes everything happens for good , yeah truth sabki samneh akkeh acha huva hai one point sairat relationship ko new direction milega , they will start their relationship on fresh note soon

Onething I noticed is virat while entering pakhis room knocked and asked permission before entering woh pehle aysa nahi kiya tha so iam hoping to see him maintaining the distance

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Posted: 4 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: jankiraghav


Nitu 🤗❤️🤗 I have the same feeling. I totally agree with your views. Both of them were wrong in equal measure -- Sai revealed the past without thinking about the consequences because she's almost ready to leave. The episode, you rightly said, has taken up energy. I really felt the jabs in the heart at various places for both of them. They were just piercing one another so hard.

I guess this is the deviation to begin the love story on a fresh slate... They can't move on unless this issue is addressed and the story would remain stuck there.

We will meet again in a better mood 🤗🤗🤗🤗

It's the elephant in the room through which Sai has been humiliated and demeaned in this house.

Pakhi didn't fail to add that 'Sai just got ready to be part of a trip'!

I'm happy Sai exposed everything.

Virat I don't feel has ever really stood up for her.

He married her telling her he's committed.

Everytime he takes her side in something he has to add 'i know she's immature, doesn't understand, her words are bitter, actions are childish...etc'

Only Sai had her own back. Shivani/Ash and Dvyani can support her but Sai has to fight her own battles in that house.

I hope Ash starts to realise the hope she holds in her heart for her son to be different from his father was unrealistic.

Sai said alot of things without the verbal clarification. That's why Pakhi and Her Badi mami were speechless and enraged and Virat was silent. Truth is bitter. The more they Continue to dish it out to Sai the more it will come slapping them in their faces. But this family doesn't have an atom of self respect so what can they really understand about shame and humiliation.

I have a feeling this Virat Pakhi past she has exposed will be used by the vultures to trap her with Pulkhit. But as usual it will turn on them when Sai reveals his actual connection to Deviany.

I don't feel there's anything for Sai to hide in this relationship. The fact that their marriage is only till she becomes a DR has been declared from her second day in that house.

Virat brought his own humiliation. Till date he still hasn't accepted that HE BEGGED Sai to join them on the trip. All the dialogues were shown as though Sai got ready out if her own will and pleasure.

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