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Posted: 4 years ago
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The actress Aparajita who portrayed Roopkatha made the character such that somewhere we could feel the pain she was going through and thus at least developed a sort of sympathy for her and not cringe whenever she came onscreen

She wasn’t a vamp, just that circumstances made her more grey in shade as compared to other characters and we as audience could feel it through her portrayal.


She in my opinion was a well written grey character and the actress was brilliant in putting it across for the audience to feel for her.


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Roch


Completely in Sync with your thoughts and the way you put it across.

In the other version (Especially Bengali), Roopkatha was a class. Whenever she was on screen and she had that attitude and grace in the body language. In the hindi version that is missing.

Especially that scene, where she asks him to hand over his clothes to pack in one suitcase did not come across as cringeworthy, here it was not enacted well especially by Pakhi - It came across as an indecent proposal.

And i completely agree, since Pakhi's character is not portrayed/emoted well the blame shifts to Virat's character. Where he comes across as giving badhava to her.

Either its not written well, but since the dialogues are copied most of the time its the execution which is not done correctly.

The added scenes which are there those are to put some point across, which comes from Virat's end but since the other party lacks the conviction, the scenes fall flat.

And you are absolutely right, she is not supposed to be the Vamp, she is actually a third/parallel lead. But she does not come across as something is a miss.

Yes here Sai's character though outspoken is not rude but she is at times but does not yell like Emon.

Virat is more emotional than Rono i guess and it works for him at times.

But Virat being emotional and Pakhi behaving delusional, the combination is disastrous, don't know if they have realized this yet. So when they speak in the IV's their understanding is right but the portrayal especially Pakhi's is extremely wrong.


True..the combination is disastarous.The director, channel should take a note of it and talk with Aishwarya about her character is much needed, if the story is going to move😢

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Absolutely on point!!!!

Many times we connect with both rupkotha and Sathya of originals but here it's impossible to connect or sympathize with her.

And the chilli grinding scene.... You were damn true!!!! I felt ki chalo chod leni chahie when I saw originals but here the actor has made it terrible.

Pakhi's character is such that ki we had to sympathize with her at one point. And both rupkotha and Sathya were successful at it . Aishwarya really needs to work on her acting skills. Sometimes I feel ki jo voh IV mein pakhi ki description deti hai voh sahi hai par ye usko screem pe nahi dikha pa rahi hai and that's the biggest flaw . Earlier she accepts it the better it would be

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sairat


The one dialogue which can explain her character is:

"Aap humse hamari zindagi maang lete hum aapko khushi khushi de dete ... par aapne toh humse hamara guroor cheen liya"

For Patralekha , its not about love, its about her right as a first lover, where her lover gave her the word for eternity.Its about her guroor not dil...not love..

She does not want to be Virat's wife but his love does not matters to her, what matters is by principle , by his word the claim of being "The One"


Later, when she is denied time and again with that claim ; she gets more delusional day by day, it almost starts when Virat and Sai confess to each other.


Now, whats wrong why in this version almost nobody can sympathise with Patralekha's character?

I will give you an example in KD, with Chilli grinding scene, when Imon made Rupkotha grind chilli as a retribution, Rono did not supported Rupkotha, but the sympathy for her did not came from there.The feelings with which Rupkotha sat to grind the chilli, than was grinding the chilli, the emotions were felt across the screen.Not even hardcore Imon fans were able to derive pleasure, from her chilli grinding and others wdre able to sympathise with her.


Check out Ranajay's Feelings For Iman? on Hotstar! https://www.hotstar.com/ca/1000115191


But in Ghkkpm,the dialogues leading to the grinding episode were same, but when Aishwarya enacted that scene i felt nothing, not even the happiness that I should have felt as Sai fan to see her grind chilli.That's why when Makers added the scene of Virat applying ice, all the pent up frustation went to the charqcter of Virat, bashing him left right and center.


Check out Sai Teaches Pakhi a Lesson on Hotstar! https://www.hotstar.com/ca/1000257089


You guys can compare yourself.


The problem in this version is the actress playing the role, I started with the first episode just out of curosity was her acting always this way and also saw her previous work,( shocking but she is good in them).Even in the the intro episode, i get the hint of character ofPatralekha is from her acting, the potrayal is just right.The problem starts after she returns from camp; since then the Pakhi starts coming across tp me as delusional and its not the case with either of the 2 versions.Pakhi comes across as delusional , cheating spouse, the vamp in this version because her character is not being potrayed properly.

Either Aishwarya does not know what she is supposed to be potraying or she has not understood the depth of the character.

Because Patralekha's flaw is not delusion its her guroor/ her thought process of having the first right.. delusion comes later as an aftermath of her flaw not at the starting.

In both versions, Satya and Rupkotha wanted to go on trip , because they thought they had the first claim not because they wanted to share their shikwa's.Also, Satya and Rupkotha both had a meltdown; but the meltdown was graceful here it was shown on a level of mental instability.

I saw Aishwarya's acting and though she is not so skilled but so was Ayesha at the start of the show; but we all have witnessed how she has improved, the same cannot be said about Aishwarya; it only seems her expressions became limited and thats the reason in a well enacted scene she stands out like a sore thumb like in Mohit Kaku food scene.


Patralekha , Sai and Virat are all very deep characters and actors playing them cannot forget this; because like now when even one character cannot play their part well , the story line and angle changes.Like now, so Patralekha character is not potrayed right the other characters supporting Patralekha are also questioned because the character is not reaching across.


In other versions the character of Bhavani Kaku , Ninad and Omi are not considered so vile as the reasons of supporting dither get justified or sympathised due to the character potrayal of Rupkotha and Satya.

Thus, in future when they becoming understanding of Sai's character;it does not come out as a sudden 180° change ,rather a gradual process, because they do not stop supporting Patralekha.

But right now, how the story is going with Patralekha's potrayal, the audience will be confused and would call them names as it would seem they are becoming "thali ka baigan" which will lead the audience to lose interest in show.


Now for our dear friend FruitCustard who is a She😅😂


The reason why Virat get bashed left, right and center; I agree with you Neil Bhatt is an exemplary actor and he has understood his character better than anyone else, that might be the reason that Virat's potrayal is better even than the original versions; his story reaches across the audience loud and clear.

If it his only his scenes ; but the problem starts when it's a Virakhi Scene:

The potrayal of Patralekha ; to be honest is nowhere near the mark and further downline.

So in a scene where Patralekha enters Sairat room while they are in argument (is not right in any version , reel or real life) but he has given Pakhi to barge in as a friend, in other versions both Rupkotha and Satya enters the room with the high handed feeling of my claim is first and Sai has her insecurities because that is her character, so in a frame all three are understood and Virat is not name called so much.

But in GHKKPM, Patralekha when enters the Sairat room or any "Sairat scene" she potrays "Pyaar ka Haq" instead of "Guroor"; it just not only spoils the visaulization of her character but of Virat's as well.

As an aftermath, she is visualized as a delusional cheating spouse and Virat get the brunt because it looks for Virat that woh uske behaviour ko badawa de raha hai(because nobody yold Neil that the potrayal of Pakhi has changed😅)


During Sairat Scenes he is bashed for calling Sai badtameez but actually he is not wrong according to script, but Ayesha though is working hard for living and breathing Sai, maybe due to her demeanour she is atmost comes across brutalky honest with tinge of rudeness.But in her comparision the actress playing Imon was living and breathing definition of Rudeness in character as it was written.j

So when Rono called her badtameez it was still digestable, because she would do actual shouting or badtameezi.

Here Ayesha us a more subdued form of Imon so Sai comes across as rude but not badtameez.


Coming back to Patralekha : the actress playing the role should now concentrate on her charecter rather than the IV's because she has some serious catching up and also because its a remake, audience already have a lot of expectations because Rupkotha and Sathya were a class in themselves, they carried and understood there character as a Parallel Lead not the daily soap vamp.


If Aishwarya is not recieving the response from audience; that she was hoping for its time she introspects why?? Rather than blaming the audience to be of Hypocrites!!! she needs to look at the episodes and her potrayal of character from audience point of view.


Amazing perspective. But I have a different view on why the character is so unrelatable. I think that the writers have actually tweaked and changed it from guroor to love because by and large they do consider audiences dumb. Hindi version needs to have an explicit love angle for mass reach. The issue with the portrayal due to absence of conviction on part of the person essaying the role is an added reason why one can't sympathise with her. But by and large, Hindi version would want to show one as a vamp and the lead as the lead. Because dialogues like tadpi hoon, shikwe mitane, mujhe phir se dhoka Diya are not our of guroor or even the initial scenes where she's imagining Virat during her vrats for Samrat's safety... They actually wanted to show the proper third angle. It is possible that they wanted to even get sympathy for PP initially after Samrat goes missing but it's gone haywire because no one connected with the character. Also, the need to portray the male lead as the Shravan Kumar who is not getting enticed by the vamp but is Patni vrata but also zaban Ka pakka... In the end, we have a bhel poori of unconnected scenes and disconnected characters at times.


I so agree that the discerning audiences like us who spend a good part of the day wondering what's on their mind, would bash Virat because his silence is of course perceived as badhava to the overt moves she makes.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I believe the voice and dialogue delivery are the key differences between Rooprekha and Patralekha. The latter sounds agitated and hyper, the former keeps her voice in control while saying the same thing that her Hindi version does.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav


Amazing perspective. But I have a different view on why the character is so unrelatable. I think that the writers have actually tweaked and changed it from guroor to love because by and large they do consider audiences dumb. Hindi version needs to have an explicit love angle for mass reach. The issue with the portrayal due to absence of conviction on part of the person essaying the role is an added reason why one can't sympathise with her. But by and large, Hindi version would want to show one as a vamp and the lead as the lead. Because dialogues like tadpi hoon, shikwe mitane, mujhe phir se dhoka Diya are not our of guroor or even the initial scenes where she's imagining Virat during her vrats for Samrat's safety... They actually wanted to show the proper third angle. It is possible that they wanted to even get sympathy for PP initially after Samrat goes missing but it's gone haywire because no one connected with the character. Also, the need to portray the male lead as the Shravan Kumar who is not getting enticed by the vamp but is Patni vrata but also zaban Ka pakka... In the end, we have a bhel poori of unconnected scenes and disconnected characters at times.


I so agree that the discerning audiences like us who spend a good part of the day wondering what's on their mind, would bash Virat because his silence is of course perceived as badhava to the overt moves she makes.


I also thought about it, but then why in every interview the director, aishwarya , neil are describing Pakhi not as a lover, but friend.

But vamps don't get this much screenspace also, I feel the dialogue is same but feeling changes for example: apart from shikwe mitana, all other dialogues were in KD too..but the potrayal was clear, when Rupkotha came to ask for clothes, it was through that haq, in a way she was not asking she was ordering but the same scene here it felt, Pakhi was begging for attention ( better word mauksparasthi).


Then comes the mirchi grinding scene when rupkotha agreed , it was like how can you question my right?

Here Patralekha reaction, tum mere saath aisa kaise kar sakte ho; dialogues were word to word same.


Also writers, willingly cannot introduce the love angle because as i told earlier guroor gets converted to delusions, agar abhi is level ka delusion dikha rahe hai toh aage kya dikhayenge?? Becoz even this delusion level is mental asylum worthy...isse badha ke mere khyal se CN mei bhi nhi rakh payenge; that would be Mounjolika-2 from Bhool bhulaiya.

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I know CN people have different taste, par itna toh woh bhi bardasht nhi kar sakte.


Second and most imp reason, moving ahead in story there is a phase where Makad sena develops fondness for Sai keeping there chaheete bahu as well: for that time period Makad sena acts normal family type; with Pakhi roaming CN halls with Pyaar ka dia; I don't see this happening.


Also, virat character is of ACP they can't show him that dumb that he cannot see pyaar wali jealousy and haq wali jealousy.So , Virat character would also be tweaked but I dont see it here.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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So, true... Even I don't understand either Bengali or Tamil, when can understand the situation by roopakanth and Satya expression, I really liked them... I time I noticed it is... Candy floss scene.... In that scene both roopkatha and Satya have a lot of different expressions, anger, hurt .... It's awesome to watch and even when emon took blessings of rono, roopkatha is too good... But pakhi has none.... More over addiction of more virakhi scenes and their explanation of pakhi's character in IVs is also adding hate towards pakhi. I am fan of Priyanka in bajirav masthani.... We can feel for her character over there..

Yes I love sai alot, her acting is superb but emon is awesome yaar, her attitude is mind-blowing.

PS: no one can Neil as virat and more over no one can from any version can beat sairat chemistry 🔥🔥🔥

Edited by Saichintalli - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sairat

Hi Everyone,


So I just saw a post on forum , about Pakhi and Aishwarya as different people, one is character other is an actor playing it, both are different, Audience understands that, than whats the problem?


For this we have to understand Patralekha Salunke/Chavan.

Has a character like hers not been written before, No there has been.Her character in original version matches that of KashiBai from Bajirao Mastani, the only difference is here she is the GF rather than Wife.

She is strong , independent, urban girl who knows the practicalities of life.She dreams like any other girl but is not delusional.She can see the difference between right and wrong, truth and mirage..In KD, it was Rupkotha who knew before anyone else , that understood Rono's feelings for Imon, its a different story how she utilised this information.

The one dialogue which can explain her character is:

"Aap humse hamari zindagi maang lete hum aapko khushi khushi de dete ... par aapne toh humse hamara guroor cheen liya"

For Patralekha , its not about love, its about her right as a first lover, where her lover gave her the word for eternity.Its about her guroor not dil...not love..

She does not want to be Virat's wife but his love does not matters to her, what matters is by principle , by his word the claim of being "The One"


Later, when she is denied time and again with that claim ; she gets more delusional day by day, it almost starts when Virat and Sai confess to each other.


Now, whats wrong why in this version almost nobody can sympathise with Patralekha's character?

I will give you an example in KD, with Chilli grinding scene, when Imon made Rupkotha grind chilli as a retribution, Rono did not supported Rupkotha, but the sympathy for her did not came from there.The feelings with which Rupkotha sat to grind the chilli, than was grinding the chilli, the emotions were felt across the screen.Not even hardcore Imon fans were able to derive pleasure, from her chilli grinding and others wdre able to sympathise with her.


Check out Ranajay's Feelings For Iman? on Hotstar! https://www.hotstar.com/ca/1000115191


But in Ghkkpm,the dialogues leading to the grinding episode were same, but when Aishwarya enacted that scene i felt nothing, not even the happiness that I should have felt as Sai fan to see her grind chilli.That's why when Makers added the scene of Virat applying ice, all the pent up frustation went to the charqcter of Virat, bashing him left right and center.


Check out Sai Teaches Pakhi a Lesson on Hotstar! https://www.hotstar.com/ca/1000257089


You guys can compare yourself.


The problem in this version is the actress playing the role, I started with the first episode just out of curosity was her acting always this way and also saw her previous work,( shocking but she is good in them).Even in the the intro episode, i get the hint of character ofPatralekha is from her acting, the potrayal is just right.The problem starts after she returns from camp; since then the Pakhi starts coming across tp me as delusional and its not the case with either of the 2 versions.Pakhi comes across as delusional , cheating spouse, the vamp in this version because her character is not being potrayed properly.

Either Aishwarya does not know what she is supposed to be potraying or she has not understood the depth of the character.

Because Patralekha's flaw is not delusion its her guroor/ her thought process of having the first right.. delusion comes later as an aftermath of her flaw not at the starting.

In both versions, Satya and Rupkotha wanted to go on trip , because they thought they had the first claim not because they wanted to share their shikwa's.Also, Satya and Rupkotha both had a meltdown; but the meltdown was graceful here it was shown on a level of mental instability.

I saw Aishwarya's acting and though she is not so skilled but so was Ayesha at the start of the show; but we all have witnessed how she has improved, the same cannot be said about Aishwarya; it only seems her expressions became limited and thats the reason in a well enacted scene she stands out like a sore thumb like in Mohit Kaku food scene.


Patralekha , Sai and Virat are all very deep characters and actors playing them cannot forget this; because like now when even one character cannot play their part well , the story line and angle changes.Like now, so Patralekha character is not potrayed right the other characters supporting Patralekha are also questioned because the character is not reaching across.


In other versions the character of Bhavani Kaku , Ninad and Omi are not considered so vile as the reasons of supporting dither get justified or sympathised due to the character potrayal of Rupkotha and Satya.

Thus, in future when they becoming understanding of Sai's character;it does not come out as a sudden 180° change ,rather a gradual process, because they do not stop supporting Patralekha.

But right now, how the story is going with Patralekha's potrayal, the audience will be confused and would call them names as it would seem they are becoming "thali ka baigan" which will lead the audience to lose interest in show.


Now for our dear friend FruitCustard who is a She😅😂


The reason why Virat get bashed left, right and center; I agree with you Neil Bhatt is an exemplary actor and he has understood his character better than anyone else, that might be the reason that Virat's potrayal is better even than the original versions; his story reaches across the audience loud and clear.

If it his only his scenes ; but the problem starts when it's a Virakhi Scene:

The potrayal of Patralekha ; to be honest is nowhere near the mark and further downline.

So in a scene where Patralekha enters Sairat room while they are in argument (is not right in any version , reel or real life) but he has given Pakhi to barge in as a friend, in other versions both Rupkotha and Satya enters the room with the high handed feeling of my claim is first and Sai has her insecurities because that is her character, so in a frame all three are understood and Virat is not name called so much.

But in GHKKPM, Patralekha when enters the Sairat room or any "Sairat scene" she potrays "Pyaar ka Haq" instead of "Guroor"; it just not only spoils the visaulization of her character but of Virat's as well.

As an aftermath, she is visualized as a delusional cheating spouse and Virat get the brunt because it looks for Virat that woh uske behaviour ko badawa de raha hai(because nobody yold Neil that the potrayal of Pakhi has changed😅)


During Sairat Scenes he is bashed for calling Sai badtameez but actually he is not wrong according to script, but Ayesha though is working hard for living and breathing Sai, maybe due to her demeanour she is atmost comes across brutalky honest with tinge of rudeness.But in her comparision the actress playing Imon was living and breathing definition of Rudeness in character as it was written.j

So when Rono called her badtameez it was still digestable, because she would do actual shouting or badtameezi.

Here Ayesha us a more subdued form of Imon so Sai comes across as rude but not badtameez.


Coming back to Patralekha : the actress playing the role should now concentrate on her charecter rather than the IV's because she has some serious catching up and also because its a remake, audience already have a lot of expectations because Rupkotha and Sathya were a class in themselves, they carried and understood there character as a Parallel Lead not the daily soap vamp.


If Aishwarya is not recieving the response from audience; that she was hoping for its time she introspects why?? Rather than blaming the audience to be of Hypocrites!!! she needs to look at the episodes and her potrayal of character from audience point of view.


You have nailed it. That was my understanding of the characters from the other versions.


@bold Can see Rupkotha or Satya emanating these. Beautiful, you have cleared a lot of things and makes sense. I get confused whenever I was watch GHKKPM.


@green chilli grinding scene, very true the feelings with which she sits what was important in that scene


@blue I think the promo also had a part to play in it about shikwa and her wearing the bangles and all that is so highlighted that it became cringeworthy.

Not sure why the makers wanted to show creativity in this 😂


@orange I think the original version potrayed them well, in Tamil they were annoying. As tou have rightly pointed out their change in attitude towards Sai would look more natural in those but wonder how they are going to achieve that in GHKKPM when these characters are being loathed.


@red I am amazed at your observations and the way you have described throughout. High handed 😂, pyaar ka haq. I wonder if it looked like EMA in other versions? It doesn't look to me here too and so I was surprised when people think he is two timing. But as you said Virat is paying the brunt, that's sad.



Interesting read, thanks to have described the characters especially Patralekha's. You have asked if she has understood the depth of the character, I think she has and that is probably why she is justifying her character in all her interviews. It is probably not coming out on the screen as it should and hence her justification is not matching the character that we watch. I am not sure if it is the actress's fault, it probably is even the makers fault who while trying to add creativity, are losing focus on the character from the original plot.

For instance the chilli grinding scene, while adding the scene of Virat tending to Pakhi, they have shifted their focus from her emotions to be made to do that to her actual physical pain.

If they want to add such scenes, it is okay, who are we and if such scenes can add values it is okay but it is kind of back firing. Virat is being bashed and Pakhi is being hated the most.

Also, Sai looks very cute (not just in terms of looking cute, lot of scenes where they have showed how innocent she actually is) and also looks more young compared to the other actresses which is also another reason why people are able to empathise more with her. Her cuteness is overshadowing her arrogance or rudeness I guess and another reason why Virat and Pakhi are being bashed more 😂.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Fruitcustard_9


Ek chhoti se req hain meri kashibai ko badnam mat kijiye plz she was not like pakhi anywhere.


Baaki I agree with👍🏼


Now that you have agreed with the rest, let me ask something that I always wanted to ask or tell. Wanted to know if you have got influenced with the Sai's character from another version that you dislike her so much or is it from GC days of GHKKPM that you dislike her?

Hope you don't mind me getting curious.


I am neutral, like both Virat and Sai and believe both makes mistakes and both are wrong many times. So just got curious.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh


Now that you have agreed with the rest, let me ask something that I always wanted to ask or tell. Wanted to know if you have got influenced with the Sai's character from another version that you dislike her so much or is it from GC days of GHKKPM that you dislike her?

Hope you don't mind me getting curious.


I am neutral, like both Virat and Sai and believe both makes mistakes and both are wrong many times. So just got curious.

Hi , sorry but even I want to know this, from lot of your posts(@ fruitcusturd), you seem very upset with sai... Sorry if I offend you

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