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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sukri


I understand your view. If he wants to take a stand, no one can overpower him, I dont doubt that.

But Virat doesn't care about kitchen politics. He would have tried to please everyone and move on, which is what he had been doing all along before Sai came to his house.


However my point is that he is forced to take a stand at home due to Sai and her fighting spirit.

If it wasn't Sai, he wouldn't have been as involved in changing ghar ke niyam etc.


If not, then he would have tried to make efforts to find out about his sister. He would have tried to stop them from taunting Karishma. He just believes whatever his family told happened and takes them at face value and think they know what they are doing.


If it was any other girl, C-Gang would have bullied her into giving up her dreams without the blame coming on them and have become Ashwini 2.0. He would have never known what happens with his wife either.


I agree with the fact that Virat wouldn't have known what's going on if it was a girl willing to be the doormat like Ashwini. He wouldn't behave like his father ever but unless someone brings things to his notice and he's forced to take a stand, he won't. I agree that if his wife were to be a typical sacrificing meek woman, she would have been Ashwini 2.0

However, hypothetically, I also feel that if he'd have witnessed his doormat wife going through some kind of humiliation, he would have spoken against it in the mildest of ways and asked his wife to not take it lying down. He did it with Sai too. He told her that she should give it back decently and not take it lying down because he witnessed and sensed what would happen...

In Karishma's case, he's definitely not interfering because a) Karishma's humiliation has not really happened in front of his eyes, and moreover it's usually when karishma herself says or does something out of the line that she's asked to mind her tongue. I think they treat her much better than Sai b) her husband Mohit and in-laws Sonali and Omkar are always around and they all appear to be on the same side as Kaku. He doesn't really interact much with Omkar and Sonali or indulge in their comments or opinions. And he also knows that it is actually Omkar who triggers Sai's reactions like no one else in that house.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: sukri


I understand your view. If he wants to take a stand, no one can overpower him, I dont doubt that.

But Virat doesn't care about kitchen politics. He would have tried to please everyone and move on, which is what he had been doing all along before Sai came to his house.


However my point is that he is forced to take a stand at home due to Sai and her fighting spirit.

If it wasn't Sai, he wouldn't have been as involved in changing ghar ke niyam etc.


If not, then he would have tried to make efforts to find out about his sister. He would have tried to stop them from taunting Karishma. He just believes whatever his family told happened and takes them at face value and think they know what they are doing.


If it was any other girl, C-Gang would have bullied her into giving up her dreams without the blame coming on them and have become Ashwini 2.0. He would have never known what happens with his wife either.

Sai has always seen the ugly side of Kaku and gang so it’s easy for her to suspect them and side with Devi . Virat has always seen the good side of them and he was kept on pedestal so he won’t be able to suspect them without any proof . It’s easy to go against in laws as they are not our own but to go against the family who have dedicated their life to raise you is not easy. For me , Virat fighting for his deal wali wife is significant and praiseworthy than Sai fighting for her rights against Kaku and gang.


It's not easy to trust Devi over his family members given her mental condition. Ashwini who is looking after Devi hasn't suspected foul play so Virat has no reason to suspect his aunt, uncles, and his father. It's like Sai suspecting Kamal Joshi. Until now Virat has seen his family disliking Sai but haven't seen them physically hurting her so how cannot imagine Kaku doing this to her daughter.

Edited by yyyy - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: sukri


I understand your view. If he wants to take a stand, no one can overpower him, I dont doubt that.

But Virat doesn't care about kitchen politics. He would have tried to please everyone and move on, which is what he had been doing all along before Sai came to his house.


However my point is that he is forced to take a stand at home due to Sai and her fighting spirit.

If it wasn't Sai, he wouldn't have been as involved in changing ghar ke niyam etc.


If not, then he would have tried to make efforts to find out about his sister. He would have tried to stop them from taunting Karishma. He just believes whatever his family told happened and takes them at face value and think they know what they are doing.


If it was any other girl, C-Gang would have bullied her into giving up her dreams without the blame coming on them and have become Ashwini 2.0. He would have never known what happens with his wife either.

I 2 understand ur pov


But jis farz or zimmedari ka Gaana virat gaata rehta hain


Ussi farz or zimmedari ke liye virat ne ghar ke niyam badle ki koshish ki thi , sai ki vajah se nhi .


Vo farz/ Zimmedari kamal sir ko diye vaade se juda hain sai se nhi, virat ne zimmedari li Hain sai ko doctor bane ki isiliye vo apne farz ke liye apni family ke rules change kar raha hain . Here he is truly sticking to his farz or Zimmermandari , yaha koi pyar ka chakkar mi vajah se nhi ho raha . Sai never asked virat to fulfill her dream , as she is his wife so he feels it his duty to protect his wife as when he saw his family reaction on grahpravesh he asked sai to stand up for herself coz he realised she will not able to survive without speaking. He felt d need of doing this.


So I m sure virat would had supported his wife & not tolerate injustice on her



Agar aapko yaad ho jab virat ne apni so called pyaari cheez ko khone ka blame apne farz pe lagaya tha , jo ki galat hain as his duty or sai wee never responsible for virakhi's seperation.


No one can make sai leave her dream coz she was sided by her husband , if virat don't side sai then maybe sai leave for hostel but will not able pursue her dream in CN without virat's support. Ashwani could not pursue her studies coz she dint have her husband ninad's support. A woman definately need a support of her husband before her in laws chahe vo sai , Ashwani ya phir pakhi . Pakhi ko isiliye itni respect milti hai coz she is samrat's wife , if tomorrow after coming back samrat abondens pakhi then no one will support her not even kaku .


Karishma of jealous of sai not coz sai is capable of fighting her fights but she jealous coz Mohit don't support her like virat does.


Sorry why should virat speak for karishma when her own husband Mohit is silent , it's totally illogical , virat supporting Mohit is more logical than this .



We have to wait for devyani track , if pulkit was living with chavans in past then virat will recognise him asap .


Sai playes a catalyst to make virat aware of his family not innocent . As virat started seeing his family true colour after marriage only . Sai usse force nhi kar rahi kuch bhi karne ke liye . Kaku mandali themselve r opening their cards before virat by torturing sai.

Edited by deepikagupta9 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: yyyy

Sai has always seen the ugly side of Kaku and gang so it’s easy for her to suspect them and side with Devi . Virat has always seen the good side of them and he was kept on pedestal so he won’t be able to suspect them without any proof . It’s easy to go against in laws as they are not our own but to go against the family who have dedicated their life to raise you is not easy. For me , Virat fighting for his deal wali wife is significant and praiseworthy than Sai fighting for her rights against Kaku and gang.


It's not easy to trust Devi over his family members given her mental condition. Ashwini who is looking after Devi hasn't suspected foul play so Virat has no reason to suspect his aunt, uncles, and his father. It's like Sai suspecting Kamal Joshi. Until now Virat has seen his family disliking Sai but haven't seen them physically hurting her so how cannot imagine Kaku doing this to her daughter.


I agree. He's not aware about the dark secrets of the family and it is natural for anyone to believe what their own parents/elders say about the family's story. I wouldn't blame him for not knowing. He would definitely take a stand if he knows.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Mein ye likhna bhul gayi thi ha Virat needs to learn this for sure & learn to take action asap that how to draw lines b/w relationship , if he say no one should interfer in husband wife relationship then it should be imply on all members of d family specially person staying next to his room. He should create a lakshmsn Rekha outside his room .


Ye usse koi bhi seekhaye I don't care but he should learn

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Happy Republic Day everyone!!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav


Oh yes, I am watching it as a package. I don't FF the scenes unless I want to rewatch something in particular. Also, it is too OTT and in bad taste but I guess as the plot unravels it will have context. Of all the people in that house, I detest Sonali and Omkar the most. Not even Kaku as much. PP comes a close second but I do not know why are the makers trying to portray her in a better light for the last two episodes?

Yeah, felt the same, they are trying to introduce some sort of sanity and sense into her character-evident from her very normal initial reaction to Virat's outburst and today's refusal to get Alta applied by UM. Maybe, because the actress is the director's favourite, who knows. 🤣


It was fun! It was hilarious too. Oh, and he acted so well! I am sure the actor must have grabbed this scene and said, "Lao lao, kuch toh alag laao yaar!" Total Romeo he has become and look they are even using Jagtap's background score on him smiley37

I am actually impressed by Neil's fluidity of expressions, if it can be called that. To take up a very ordinary scene and make it extra-ordinary only by your nuanced expressions is a feat not many actors can achieve. So, kudos to him for that. 👏


I actually don't find his jealousy cute at all. That is why I made that post about patriarchal mindset on Saturday and yesterday as well. His jealousy is right now veering towards the unhealthy and i hope he finds control on his emotions before it turns into that. Because the justification of feeling jealous is missing. 👍🏼

Same. His impetuous behaviour is not understandable. I think if he takes a moment and introspects, he'll realise how he's just recklessly acting on his impulses, without knowing or understanding the reason behind doing so. I get he's jealous, because he's insecure, because he's not sure of his place in Sai's life and apprehends that someone else might take that place, but he doesn't know that he's feeling all of this and therefore, is just all over the place.

He can be this jealous if he indeed made it clear that they are husband and wife in all sense. And it's not even like she's actually going out of her way to befriend men. So, while I understand the underlying factor for his insecurity, his bursting out at her randomly and using her flaws to cover up his own action that has come from his insecurity is actually putting off.

Agreed*100. This also reminds me of a dialogue from yesterday that has since stuck with me. When Sai told Virat that "maine use dhyan se nahi dekha," his curt reply was "aise kaise dhyan se nahi dekha. Uske gaane pe dance kiya tumne ....." What did he mean by that? That Sai gawks at men and evaluates them based on their looks? I don't know, but this kind of indicated to me that this mindset of Virat, which though he might not express explicitly, is inherent to him and might manifest itself in future and be the reason for him to not believe Sai if and when the misunderstanding track takes place. Not sure if I have been able to articulate my thoughts well. Sorry.

But then, he's the alpha male. And women find it attractive. It is not. Their banter was cute but not the jealousy.

This Alpha male ka concept is beyond me and like you said, not attractive, and I'd blame Bollywood for really glamourising it and making money by consistently setting bad-examples for the youth. I'd rather have a "human" Virat, with all his fallacies and weaknesses, who finds his equal in Sai, confides in her, accepts his mistakes and tries to make amends and, who is understanding and compassionate, than a so-called AM, who always has to provide for others, be the dominant one, subjugate the woman and what not. On this note, a request to the CVs, just because Virat is a police officer, no need to make him Dabangg, IYKWIM. 😆


Aww because coffee can set everything right!!

Sure, can. :)❤️


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Aaj adhik late comment is only for comedy sequence of our bina waiter Ka bhooka Godu!!


Isss jealousy ke liye itna bawaaal? I was pleased it didn't go into some tum mere ho sirf mere ho type arm twisting...chest heaving... jealousy track! Phew phew!


Btw the lambi list of names for his baiko is because she refused naamkaran at Kaku Mela! Toh now Roz me Naya naam he gives because Kaku is Ghar ki badi and must always listen to Ghar ke badi!


Unfortunately I could not stomach any of the chillum chilli in the early part of the episodes aur FF button Ka poora upyog Kiya! Sai bhale Ghar se jaaye ya na jaaye...Ashwini ko ek Naya Ghar dedo...


Also Ninad....your health is worsening because you want to eat nonsense vanghi and kothimbir Vadi together and then uss tracksuit mein only drinking extoxic tea...exercise Ka actual naam aur nishaan Nahi (and no! Vocal exercise does not count).


Please let tomorrow bring some solace...to everyone involved....including my eardrums.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: RadhaChauhan

This Alpha male ka concept is beyond me and like you said, not attractive, and I'd blame Bollywood for really glamourising it and making money by consistently setting bad-examples for the youth. I'd rather have a "human" Virat, with all his fallacies and weaknesses, who finds his equal in Sai, confides in her, accepts his mistakes and tries to make amends and, who is understanding and compassionate, than a so-called AM, who always has to provide for others, be the dominant one, subjugate the woman and what not.

Agree 100%. His patriarchal mindset makes him feel he is entitled to use 'his' women as a punching bag when struggling with his emotions. Even if the CVs wanted to show him as such, there should have been proper closures - he should face consequences of his outbursts (either Sai going to hostel or at least to Usha mausi's room or even Sai showing him the mirror and telling him off). Even worse, as Janki mentioned, all these tantrums when he hasn't even given his commitment to his wife! CVs have majorly messed up his character arc.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jane_austen

Agree 100%. His patriarchal mindset makes him feel he is entitled to use 'his' women as a punching bag when struggling with his emotions. Even if the CVs wanted to show him as such, there should have been proper closures - he should face consequences of his outbursts (either Sai going to hostel or at least to Usha mausi's room or even Sai showing him the mirror and telling him off). Even worse, as Janki mentioned, all these tantrums when he hasn't even given his commitment to his wife! CVs have majorly messed up his character arc.


Agree.


On top of that, doesn't give a second thought before barging into his ex's room at midnight coz he is jealous about biwi's potential non-love interest, not considering how his wife would feel knowing he went to meet his ex after shouting her name top of his voice for everyone to hear.


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