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Posted: 4 years ago
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Beautiful analysis Janki.


I must praise the person who wrote today's episode. With full 17 minutes of SaiRat screen space, we got to see all the minefields/triggers in their relationship. Be it "best friend", "family", space in room, home and life, and now "Aniket." Since the past few weeks, these 2 in their emotional outburst have blurted out so much about what they feel, what is in their heart but none of them have given a thought of what the other said in a positive way, especially Virat. Sai has said so much to him since the Amay saga started and Virat has not thought once about it. If he did, he would get a pathway to Sai's heart, which he so desperately wants. Not once has he tried to reassure her of her place in his life, heck today he did not even reassure her space in their room. By not once telling Patraleka to get out of the room, he has made it clear to Sai that their room....or their relationship has a third person in it too. Virat keeps on expecting and expecting without clearing any of Sai's doubts. How is this relationship to grow? But to me, thank god for getting an episode full of SaiRat, their issues in this relationship are glaringly obvious and I do not see any of them solving with contemplation and heartfelt conversation till an adult, hopefully, Ashwini interferes. The minute these 2 try to talk, they trigger the other by using certain words. I do not see Sai needing to learn much, she is adaptive to Virat. If Virat moved forward in this relationship, clears things for her, assures her, stops his jalebi talks, Sai will move forward with him, or should I say step toward him. The reason she hesitates, moves back, does not freely offer her feelings to him even though she feels them is because Virat's words and actions stop her from doing so. Sai will go with the flow in their relationship if Virat clears the obstacles, but it is Virat who will have to do it as he is the one who placed the obstacles in the first place with "zimmedari," "deal," "lover/best friend/whatever."


I really see no hope in their relationship if we do not get Virat-Ashwini scene soon. Virat is just so blind to all of Sai's issues in this relationship. He needs someone like Ashwini to put things in perspective when he is calm. If Virat is jealous anytime Sai speaks of another man, how is he going to build a relationship with Sai. In today's episode, finally out of his jealously he told Sai not to dance and added salt to the wound by calling for Patraleka. These 2 things were a big no. Again, when Sai tried to move toward him by sharing her college experience (did he not desire she share her day with him?), he pushed her 10 steps back. The next few episodes need to concentrate on Virat otherwise what is the point of this serial. I am not saying Virat needs to have 100% clarity on his feelings and relationship, but at least there can be a start. At least he can solve 1 of the million issues these 2 have in their relationship. At least he can make sure Patralekha does not enter their room or be sensitive to Sai's feelings regarding his interaction with Patralekha. Anything, something???????


I enjoyed today's episode 😊but the precap is 😡. That is literal abuse, holding someone against their will to make them do something forcefully. Is this really a house of police officers and army men. 😡

Edited by Anvi2009 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#22

Whatever I have seen on insta .. I have loved the episode.. ishq ka mazaa toh dhire hi dhire hi aata hai


Yesterday ka review somebody posted Will virat behave like a protective elder .. but no I saw hubby wife sparring and enjoying the conversation


Sai has always put virat sir on a pedestal today she is pulling him down that u can’t sing .. my friend is a great singer ..

she regards virat as a friend and is gushing over another guy ..

When she says tarif ... a typical wife complain.. he immediately went down 2-3 thumka kya Kar Diya .... atleast they are bridging the age and respect gap .. I only saw a hubby wife in the room ..

Sayi has to climb up and get to calling him virat .. then only virat can start flirting with her ..


Both are flawed ..virat is not convincing sayi .. that she belongs in this room .. in his life because he himself is not sure .. whether she fits in his life .. the issue is sayi is very talented and she has a bright career ahead of her .. his mind does not want to stifle her growth


but his heart is calling out .. and is becoming jealous.. he wants things from her ..

I am surprised sayi made him stay so hungry ., that they changed clothes .. and she had not served dinner .. so when she asked whether she should get food for him .. he was kinda pissed .. why are u asking obvious questions.. maybe he was hungry and tired .. but when a man/ woman comes back home after late night .. they do expect dinner to be served and then all the conversations.,


pakhi pakhi .. yes they have unresolved issues between them .. but it can’t be sorted so fast .. I don’t think he wanted to call pakhi to get food .. he just got bugged because his deal wali wife was not doing her duties towards him


yes we do enjoy this patriarchal dominating husband on tv .But .calling this kabir Singh is a gross exaggeration.. actually they showed what kabir Singh kind of life for a woman actually is by showing Jagtap interest on sayi ..

Pls pls virat is a very sensible nice guy .. not at all kabir Singh .. perfectly marriage candy .. only his family is horror trap ..

he has grown up in a conservative household so has some fixed views .. and his heart is shifting towards sayi ..

it will take some time .. but seriously Rani bana ke rakhega ..Bas Kaku ko koyi adjust kara de 🤣🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anvi2009

Beautiful analysis Janki.


I must praise the person who wrote today's episode. With full 17 minutes of SaiRat screen space, we got to see all the minefields/triggers in their relationship. Be it "best friend", "family", space in room, home and life, and now "Aniket." Since the past few weeks, these 2 in their emotional outburst have blurted out so much about what they feel, what is in their heart but none of them have given a thought of what the other said in a positive way, especially Virat. Sai has said so much to him since the Amay saga started and Virat has not thought once about it. If he did, he would get a pathway to Sai's heart, which he so desperately wants. Not once has he tried to reassure her of her place in his life, heck today he did not even reassure her space in their room. By not once telling Patraleka to get out of the room, he has made it clear to Sai that their room....or their relationship has a third person in it too. Virat keeps on expecting and expecting without clearing any of Sai's doubts. How is this relationship to grow? But to me, thank god for getting an episode full of SaiRat, their issues in this relationship are glaringly obvious and I do not see any of them solving with contemplation and heartfelt conversation till an adult, hopefully, Ashwini interferes. The minute these 2 try to talk, they trigger the other by using certain words. I do not see Sai needing to learn much, she is adaptive to Virat. If Virat moved forward in this relationship, clears things for her, assures her, stops his jalebi talks, Sai will move forward with him, or should I say step toward him. The reason she hesitates, moves back, does not freely offer her feelings to him even though she feels them is because Virat's words and actions stop her from doing so. Sai will go with the flow in their relationship if Virat clears the obstacles, but it is Virat who will have to do it as he is the one who placed the obstacles in the first place with "zimmedari," "deal," "lover/best friend/whatever."


I really see no hope in their relationship if we do not get Virat-Ashwini scene soon. Virat is just so blind to all of Sai's issues in this relationship. He needs someone like Ashwini to put things in perspective when he is calm. If Virat is jealous anytime Sai speaks of another man, how is he going to build a relationship with Sai. In today's episode, finally out of his jealously he told Sai not to dance and added salt to the wound by calling for Patraleka. These 2 things were a big no. Again, when Sai tried to move toward him by sharing her college experience (did he not desire she share her day with him?), he pushed her 10 steps back. The next few episodes need to concentrate on Virat otherwise what is the point of this serial. I am not saying Virat needs to have 100% clarity on his feelings and relationship, but at least there can be a start. At least he can solve 1 of the million issues these 2 have in their relationship. At least he can make sure Patralekha does not enter their room or be sensitive to Sai's feelings regarding his interaction with Patralekha. Anything, something???????


I enjoyed today's episode 😊but the precap is 😡. That is literal abuse, holding someone against their will to make them do something forcefully. Is this really a house of police officers and army men. 😡


I agree with what your saying and haven’t watched the episode but it’s been always on Virat’s shoulders because of his Vaada, feelings, Farz etc whatever he has said and these things are biting him.


For once I want to side with him (though he is confused himself), he doesn’t realise his feelings, he is going helpless and the one in front of him doesn’t take the hints and he can’t speak direct. This same girl has rejected him point blank, his frustration stems from that, he thinks she doesn’t like him as according to him she doesn’t do anything for him (which except for the DIG and Pakhi case she hasn’t). He needs a reassurance and she isn’t giving it to him as she is scared herself.


If we speak about dinner I don’t know how many times he has said let’s have dinner together, main hum Dono ke liye khana like aata hoon etc in last 2 weeks and the girl just doesn’t get it. Ab isse jyada spashta Kya ho sakta hain. That dinner has been making so many rounds that I feel like having dinner with him once and for all😳

Hopefully that there is a bridge and hope it’s Ashwini Aai and the first step has to be taken by Sai cause even though she younger she is the sensible one. She picks up things basis his behaviour but doesn’t dwell on it. I rely on her more than him (he is a gone case with his feelings and all). Virat’s basic problem is he doesn’t understand his own emotions Nahi toh woh vaada part hota hi nahi

So hopefully Ashwini Aai does something, we all are keeping our hopes on you Aai👍🏼

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I believe that Virat definitely has his shade of Grey, his personality during the GC days set the bar high he was on his best behaviour smiley36 the reason I guess can be attributed to the distance from his family however Virat has aspects in his personality that is manipulative and controlling.

The manipulation is what led to the dreaded vaada! I mean yes the ball was in Paakhi's court but honestly what kind of a reassurance was it meant to give her really? He just asked her to get married to Samrat because either way they couldn't get together by not stating it in precise words but implying it nevertheless , so PP took whatever lollies he was distributing. He is not responsible for PP's descisions but his hand in it cannot be denied.

Second is the time he offered the deal to Sai before the wedding, he knew it even as he was saying that it wasn't going to be temporary it was once again a lolly to pacify her, third was when he tried to use shivani bua and Aai to get Sai to stop thinking about moving to a hostel.

His controlling side of course comes to the fore when the green eyed monster wakes up which is why he raised his voice during the Amey fiasco he was fighting for control and today with the "you don't have to dance". This is the same man who said "there won't be any roktok from my end" but jealousy seems to be one emotion that Virat can't seem to control and let's his cool as cucumber approach to take a dive in the naag nadismiley36

If these traits are going to be used to show character growth then I am all for it what I am hoping we'll not be subjected to is the disproportionate emphasis (more) on the discord and (less) in the making up.

Because while these traits are definitely present in Virat which is not surprising because the kind of lifestyle set by the matriarch of the house and her makkad sena is filled with manipulation and control which he has seen his mom survive by enduring passing on the same approach to him.

While his negative traits are less it can be quite destructive if left to fester, hopefully it won't come to that.

Sai really didn't need to bring PP into the dinner conversation that was quite unnecessary in fact that entire conversation might have taken a pleasant turn if she had not mentioned PP because like you mentioned even I was expecting a better culmination of the scene however was it just me or did PP actually have a man mein ladoo poota moment when she heard Virat calling? Kya baat hai the book must have been really interesting that she didn't put it down to come running or am I speaking too soon?

I think Virat yelling (no excuses though) had to do with the fact that he had repeatedly told Sai to bring her into their conversations and not just today but previously and today when his mood was already in a dangerous space he ended up yelling in a 'frenzy' like you rightly pointed because I don't even think he has registered the way he is reacting. However, he is also the one to be blamed for Sai bringing in PP into the conversation by allowing PP to talk in between them, he has never set the boundary and Sai has slowly stopped expecting it too especially after she saw chipkahini feeding Virat. I think this is the reason she made a comment about the room not being hers despite the fact that she has been calling it "pati-patni" ka kamra from day 1 its almost like she has lost the will to fight for her space especially given how everything that he has done for her was callously thrown in her face and never addressed back. It's like they take one step forward the very next minute they are pushed 4 steps back.

Sorry about the long response, too many thoughts adling my brainsmiley37

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Roch


I agree with what your saying and haven’t watched the episode but it’s been always on Virat’s shoulders because of his Vaada, feelings, Farz etc whatever he has said and these things are biting him.


For once I want to side with him (though he is confused himself), he doesn’t realise his feelings, he is going helpless and the one in front of him doesn’t take the hints and he can’t speak direct. This same girl has rejected him point blank, his frustration stems from that, he thinks she doesn’t like him as according to him she doesn’t do anything for him (which except for the DIG and Pakhi case she hasn’t). He needs a reassurance and she isn’t giving it to him as she is scared herself.


If we speak about dinner I don’t know how many times he has said let’s have dinner together, main hum Dono ke liye khana like aata hoon etc in last 2 weeks and the girl just doesn’t get it. Ab isse jyada spashta Kya ho sakta hain. That dinner has been making so many rounds that I feel like having dinner with him once and for all😳

Hopefully that there is a bridge and hope it’s Ashwini Aai and the first step has to be taken by Sai cause even though she younger she is the sensible one. She picks up things basis his behaviour but doesn’t dwell on it. I rely on her more than him (he is a gone case with his feelings and all). Virat’s basic problem is he doesn’t understand his own emotions Nahi toh woh vaada part hota hi nahi

So hopefully Ashwini Aai does something, we all are keeping our hopes on you Aai👍🏼


Yes I agree .. virat has been talking about joint dinner for ages now .. this is something he wants from her .. he has tasted it when he took her out to the chat wala .. he likes watching her eat.. .. but sayi has been ignoring this because of so many side issues .. today when they were changing .. she was still studying .. he was reading a book .. it’s not just a wife .. any person should ask whether I have eaten .. let me get u food .. when her dad came back from office ..she used to do the needful..


Ashwini hearing this .. should send ringers .. she should do the ayi talk with her bahu .. and tell her there are some things she cannot let slide away .. and allow others to enter ..


Frankly making pakhi get food for him regularly.. is setting her up for hurt later on .. don’t use her to score a point with your wife .. virat should have gone down and got the food .. would samrat had liked it that his cousin was behaving with his wife like this


pakhi may not consider herself as samrat ki wife but in virat’s eyes she is samrat’s wife and a friend .. will he like any man treating his wife like this .. like how he called for pakhi .. Will Mohit dare to call sayi like this to get him food ..though Kaku and her mandli can ..



Waise I noticed Mohit has started calling sayi vahini ..though karishma calls sayi bhabhi .. then how is virat getting away by calling pakhi ...


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Good morning sisterhood! 🌞🌻

The morning was so tuneful because it began with such a beautiful song -- one of my personal favourites -- based on Avadhi Brijwasi thumri, “Balma Re Chunaria Maiko Lal” of Pandit Birju Maharaj... "Mohe rang do laal".. I have been obsessed with this song because of the subtleties that it brings out even as the courtesan tries to seek the love but unlike the other numbers where the hastaks are overtly inviting... It goes so well with the restrained relationship that the two leads share at the moment.

Almost 17 minutes of only Sai and Virat, swinging on their emotions of belonging, expectations, insecurity, jealousy and finally mistrust and indignation -- both in equal measures. The beauty with which they held each other for the first few moments of their meeting each other at the end of the day could have set the tone for such a heart felt sharing but there's so much imaginary crowd in their space that it is impossible for the moment to hold.

How beautiful was that performance anyway -- From elegantly holding herself back in the beginning to letting her hair loose at the end, the feet tapping to the taal, the transition from being coy to seeking that love at the end of the recital! 😍😍 And, of course, the spin and fall straight into the arms of hifazat Karne wala police wala Pati, who went from being rose-eyed to green-eyed in under one minute flat.

Now when such a haseen zimmedari falls into your open arms after that mesmerising spinning on a Kathak Taal, what else can you do but admire and gaze... and if you are a confused jalebi maker, you can also be extremely jealous of anyone else who might have seen your zimmedari dance!

"Aniket" is the new trigger word 😂 but IPS officer is unable to 'register' the name of the accused in this case he's trying to investigate and prod his 'wife'. "Tumhara Ankit... Wo kaun, Nachiket?" Arrey, Chavan Saheb ab itne hi jal bhun rahe ho toh why do you want to keep hearing the name from her mouth and press your wound 😑 waise Sai ke haathon ke jaise hi, your ego is very nazuk.. more nazuk than her hand actually because aap ko toh mirch hawa se hi lag jaati hai... Bappa re! 😔

Frankly, the banter was coming on so well. It was filled with so much love suspended in between, so much belonging -- even his jealousy initially, but as it turned nasty, the entire charm of the interaction faded away... And unfortunately, both Sai and Virat used the cues negatively to get back at each other.

Was Virat jealous alone? No. Jealousy -- such a huge ball of ego between them today that it was so visible, so verbal yet so incomprehensible. If Aniket was a trigger for Virat, Pakhi is for Sai and her trigger had gone off right in the morning 😄 I actually liked how she straight away told him about the ice sequence -- it was such a typical wife comparing how much time he took to get her the ice in contrast to his quick action for the best friend -- but Virat was already burning with the new information that he couldn't see the jealousy in Sai and ended up being offended in other ways. "Kyun laa rahi ho beech mein"... Ab what can she do. In her mind, there is 'three' in that deal marriage whether she likes it or not. And you, Virat, haven't done anything to make her feel otherwise.

There is an inherent problem in the way they communicate, thanks to the "deal" marriage, which Sai feels the urge to bring up every time as a reminder to herself and him but also a taunt that she actually seeks a clarification for. Virat, on the other hand, doesn't feel the need to clarify his stand.

"Ye hum dono ka kamra hai"

"Nahi, ye Aapka kamra hai. Aapne mujhe yahan rehne ki ijazat di hai... Mera yahan koi kamra Nahi hai..."

Now, it was another chance where a reassurance would have helped but Virat has been too careless with letting these opportunities go. Instead, he's expressing his expectations from her without removing the negative motivation from between them to bring each other on the knees.

The problem is that Virat wants Sai to verbalise first -- in words or in her actions as a 'wife'. "Tum kapde theek se nahi rakh sakti" (btw😐 why should she do it) and she had to walk up to the cupboard while he stood there watching the clothes lie on the floor, followed by "meri chappal Kahan hai?" (We've a bagful for you here, Chavan Saheb 🤣)

I guess in their moments of losing control, they have decided to make a spectacle of their relationship in front of the Chakram niwasis to hand them the license to intrude. And again, it was Virat who started the screaming -- for the third time.

Ab Chavan saheb, if "ye hum dono ka kamra hai" toh why do you have to send out these invitations to a third person to make an entry into that space. 😣 What kind of maturity is this? You can't handle the mention of a guy your wife has met, admired and danced with/for because she was mesmerised by his voice and so you get doubly offended because she's trying to remind you of a similar person in between the two of you, who's your baggage, frankly. 😒 All this for what: jealously?

Jealousy actually and undoubtedly is a weak, negative emotion that brings out anger, insecurity and humiliation, makes one question self-worth in a relationship and leads to unpleasant possessiveness, outbursts and overthinking. Often, even rock solid relationships fall prey to jealousy. And with Sai and Virat the relationship is like a boat stuck in the middle of a rocky River as of now.

Both of them have extreme self-esteem issues and it was evident from their conversation today. Both of them feel that the other does not value or acknowledge -- Virat's "Kaisa dikhta hai wo? Main kaise maan loon ki tum ne dance Kiya par acche se Nahi Dekha? Height kitni hai uski?" And Sai's "Aap meri tareef Kyun karenge? Aapka Khana Pakhi Didi layengi ya main laaun?"

But what a 'toxic' way of seeking the validation that they both want.

The kind of barriers they have placed in between them with all the farz, zimmedari, ummeed mat rakhna and samjhauta-deal-marriage has ended up damaging their sense of worth -- both of them don’t feel attractive and confident. It happens to the best of relationships when you hit a bump and it becomes so hard to truly believe that your partner loves and values you. In Sai's case, Virat's silence and actions towards the 'true love' has reinforced Sai's belief that she can never be the one he would desire as a woman as a wife. So, along with the knowledge that she's only a "temporary zimmedari", Virat's silence to all the moments when she seeks assurance by speaking of leaving, only makes her up her walls -- she doesn't like doing it either but she doesn't see any other way.

"Aap aayenge meri performance dekhne?" And before he can process the invitation, she goes, "Why will you come? You'll find this bachchon ka kaam and be busy! So it's okay if you don't."

Her negative emotional experience in the relationship -- thanks to all the T&Cs spelt out before the marriage and the grudging family to deal with-- is making her develop self protective layers during their private time, which only add to the negative experience that Virat then feels because his 'expectation' is dashed. He wants her to say things he wants to hear, which she refuses to say very deliberately even though she wants to say it as much as he wants to hear it.

The way the two of them are dealing with this emotion is actually very perturbing. As we get into the thick of this plot, it is perhaps revealing that very visible grey shade in Virat... I wonder if Sai has concluded too quickly about his "modern thinking" because unfortunately, he is a product of toxic patriarchy and to end a conversation that wasn't going his way, he ended up saying "You don't need to dance". Like, seriously, did I hear it right? And it wasn't said in a joke.

Come on Virat! You told her you sing and play the djembe... She asked you to sing but you were so hurt that your 'entitlement' over her had been questioned that you saw her excitement for a fleeting moment and dismissed it. And actually, please don't play the djembe. It's risky because you know it stimulates a serpent who can slither into your room even when you don't send out the loud, roaring invite like today... 😣

How badly do these two need to talk? I don't think any measuring tape can ascertain the height of their egos at the moment -- but while I would certainly point out to the fact that Sai did not respond positively to him in the initial conversation, leading to his jealousy amplifying to the size it did, Virat's selective outrage at her interaction with any other man and his need to have her drop out of something that he saw gave her the joy she had been missing is not a sign of healthy jealousy.

Jealousy can be constructively used if Virat can display the maturity he has been harping about to understand why does he get jealous. He's moving from compassionate and constructive to self destructive in the relationship. And how conveniently has he forgotten the reminders he gave her until very recently to 'umeed mat rakhna'

On Sai's part, she has been deliberately ignoring his needs because she doesn't think of herself as a 'wife' in their private space -- her 'ye Mera kamra Nahi hai' was so telling. She hasn't said that before. In fact, she has always called it 'pati Patni Ka kamra' and put up fight for her space. But not today-- because she's still fresh from the wounds inflicted on her by her husband's silence when a third person -- his 'true love', no less -- questioned her worth in the relationship where no one else should be speaking.

We can say Sai doesn't show her concern for Virat as much as he does for her but it's because Virat's own 'other' actions undo a lot of the messages he conveys when he cares. Recognising and embracing your spouse's enduring vulnerabilities, as well as your own, is extremely important to strengthen a relationship. It is a normal human emotion to feel jealous but not being able to stay in control of the situation is worrisome...

Sai shouldn't have taunted about the dinner. I was under the impression that the invisible dinner happened in between their changing into sleepwear but it seems like Chavan Saheb's dinner is mostly jinxed and adding to his jealousy... The scene conveyed Sai's intentional detachment. When he went silent, she walked up to his side with some amount of concern and wanting to mend things -- I almost thought she was going to sit beside him but then the offer to bring dinner combined with the question of the 'best friend' wasn't the best of the shots she should have played at that time. I feel she didn't anticipate his frenzied reaction but I am not happy with the way she framed her question. 😔 Why Sai? You are actually smart and you picked the right one when you asked: Aap itna gussa Kyun Hain? Maine Aniket ke gaane par dance Kiya isiliye ya main is programme me participate Kar rahi hoon isiliye?

Sai, you actually know the answer but I wish the man opens up and says it in spashth words so that this really petty fight can be nipped in the bud. But it doesn't seem so... I am not sure who am I feeling bad for... They're both in such a vulnerable state and show no signs of addressing their issues. Virat's screaming out to 'true love' is so unlike him and so unacceptable if he actually wants Sai to do what she is waiting for too...

And Sai, stop giving that serpent so much of your mind space or has it slipped into your mind already?

But because he's the one who sells machoority chooran after jalebis cause indigestion -- Did he realise what his screaming out to his bade Bhai ki wife did to the woman standing by his side? This will only push her back to her melancholy, having to look over her shoulder before attempting to fly. And what's worse is that she's going to look for Virat's reactions because they do affect her -- the man who is also watching her back but tongue tied! 😣🥺

Didn't you just tell her, 'ye hamara kamra hai'? Then why did you let your voice leave the space of that room, Virat? And more than the voice, you let Sai's joy leave that room and also the river -- it has flown by again.

Ashwini's parallel conversation with Ninad even as the younger couple's voices began to emerge was such a deep one -- Pati Patni ke rishtey ki gullakh me chillar pade toh thodi awaaz Hoti hai par beizzati ke patthar daloge toh Roz tootega hi tootega...

What are Virat and Sai adding to the gullakh of their relationship? Toxicity? I hope not.🥺


Both of them have missed so many opportunities just because they have deliberately held back. But in their moments of loss of control, they are giving away so much opportunity for bystanders to hurl a couple of stones towards their gullakh...

Virat, man, you need to pick up that book on your bedside and read the 'Living Strategy'. It will tell you why communication in spashth words is a must to build the trust and intimacy you seek in real life too. And Sai, please take heart ❤️ I can only hope that you'll soon pick up the sign of what this man wants and cannot say -- no, you don't have to take the first step even when you do but at least it will tell you that you don't have to take the two steps back when he's trying to reach you, walking over his jalebis 😑

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One word of appreciation for aadarniya Didi. Thank you for staying in the bed so far and not running out at the sound of 'Pa' from your true love 😣 and one ❤️ to that poor , poor photo of Samrat. I feel bad for that photo more than the man himself. I just hope he bugged that photo frame with a microchip before leaving the blank cheque book with his blank 'wife' 😂😆

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So the weekend is here and every Saturday has to end with a half finished screaming match. Next week, Chavan Saheb has two opportunities to sing and play his djembe -- at college and at Vasant Panchami 😳 (so they've been married for seven months already? 😓😨😢 Does it mean that Samrat is returning on the first anniversary or will Chakram niwas clock turn back in time after celebrating Holi next month?😒😖)

Whether he sings a tune of love or rant, we will know but dua toh yahi hai ki Sai ke ghungroo ki khanak should not diminish for any reason and any one. 🥺

I had asked yesterday, "Chavan Saheb dance ka sach jaan ne ke baad dinner khayenge kya?" Aapko pata chale toh batana 😅Someone give that Chavan a cup of black coffee-- he might just be able to detox from the extra sugar of his own jalebis! 😑😣 This man is really annoying me.

Tab tak, enjoy the coffee ☕ and your tea 🍵 along with hugs 🤗 love 💕 and remember what you behold right now is good. Because if it weren't, you'd never fear losing it...

Coffee makes everything okay, once a day!

Haste raho 😀 pyaar karte raho ❤️💕

Yahan tak aane ke liye, manapurvak aabhar 🙏🙏

💓 J


Your posts are always a treat to read, Janki. I've finally come around to reading them again. I've been MIA from the forum recently ever since I saw the precap of the Chavan women making Sai grind chilies for no tangible reason other than to torture her. It was unwatchable. I have recently caught up with Sai's story by fast-forwarding through family drama only stopping to hear Sai (and sometimes Virat).


Today's episode finally showed only SaiRat, the couple whose story this is supposed to be. Thank god the CVs remembered who the leads were. Hopefully they keep this up. While watching the episode, I could only think one thing: I found the magic of SaiRat again. Question to the makers: Is this how this is going to be? A series of episodes of Chakram nivasis shouting at and torturing Sai followed by one episode of pure SaiRat? They seriously need to balance out the drama and tone it down.


Yes, I'm calling this show Sai's story now because she is the only character I like to consider the lead. I am not interested in Pakhi in the least. Virat needs more screen space and needs to be more firm and progressive as a character for me to sympathize with him. I liked him in GC, but now, he makes my blood boil. Kaunsa UPSC topper aur IPS officer itna stupid hota hai? Only Sai is a character that I can relate to now and love with all my heart. She has flaws and she makes mistakes which drive me up a wall, but like you have aptly named her, she is a dew drop. I am watching this show as her story and her relationship with other characters that I love, namely Ashwini, Shivani, Devi Tai, Dr. Pulkit, etc. Virat needs a lot of proper redemption to join my list of likable characters.

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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Good morning sisterhood! 🌞🌻

The morning was so tuneful because it began with such a beautiful song -- one of my personal favourites -- based on Avadhi Brijwasi thumri, “Balma Re Chunaria Maiko Lal” of Pandit Birju Maharaj... "Mohe rang do laal".. I have been obsessed with this song because of the subtleties that it brings out even as the courtesan tries to seek the love but unlike the other numbers where the hastaks are overtly inviting... It goes so well with the restrained relationship that the two leads share at the moment.

Almost 17 minutes of only Sai and Virat, swinging on their emotions of belonging, expectations, insecurity, jealousy and finally mistrust and indignation -- both in equal measures. The beauty with which they held each other for the first few moments of their meeting each other at the end of the day could have set the tone for such a heart felt sharing but there's so much imaginary crowd in their space that it is impossible for the moment to hold.

How beautiful was that performance anyway -- From elegantly holding herself back in the beginning to letting her hair loose at the end, the feet tapping to the taal, the transition from being coy to seeking that love at the end of the recital! 😍😍 And, of course, the spin and fall straight into the arms of hifazat Karne wala police wala Pati, who went from being rose-eyed to green-eyed in under one minute flat.

Now when such a haseen zimmedari falls into your open arms after that mesmerising spinning on a Kathak Taal, what else can you do but admire and gaze... and if you are a confused jalebi maker, you can also be extremely jealous of anyone else who might have seen your zimmedari dance!

"Aniket" is the new trigger word 😂 but IPS officer is unable to 'register' the name of the accused in this case he's trying to investigate and prod his 'wife'. "Tumhara Ankit... Wo kaun, Nachiket?" Arrey, Chavan Saheb ab itne hi jal bhun rahe ho toh why do you want to keep hearing the name from her mouth and press your wound 😑 waise Sai ke haathon ke jaise hi, your ego is very nazuk.. more nazuk than her hand actually because aap ko toh mirch hawa se hi lag jaati hai... Bappa re! 😔

Frankly, the banter was coming on so well. It was filled with so much love suspended in between, so much belonging -- even his jealousy initially, but as it turned nasty, the entire charm of the interaction faded away... And unfortunately, both Sai and Virat used the cues negatively to get back at each other.

Was Virat jealous alone? No. Jealousy -- such a huge ball of ego between them today that it was so visible, so verbal yet so incomprehensible. If Aniket was a trigger for Virat, Pakhi is for Sai and her trigger had gone off right in the morning 😄 I actually liked how she straight away told him about the ice sequence -- it was such a typical wife comparing how much time he took to get her the ice in contrast to his quick action for the best friend -- but Virat was already burning with the new information that he couldn't see the jealousy in Sai and ended up being offended in other ways. "Kyun laa rahi ho beech mein"... Ab what can she do. In her mind, there is 'three' in that deal marriage whether she likes it or not. And you, Virat, haven't done anything to make her feel otherwise.

There is an inherent problem in the way they communicate, thanks to the "deal" marriage, which Sai feels the urge to bring up every time as a reminder to herself and him but also a taunt that she actually seeks a clarification for. Virat, on the other hand, doesn't feel the need to clarify his stand.

"Ye hum dono ka kamra hai"

"Nahi, ye Aapka kamra hai. Aapne mujhe yahan rehne ki ijazat di hai... Mera yahan koi kamra Nahi hai..."

Now, it was another chance where a reassurance would have helped but Virat has been too careless with letting these opportunities go. Instead, he's expressing his expectations from her without removing the negative motivation from between them to bring each other on the knees.

The problem is that Virat wants Sai to verbalise first -- in words or in her actions as a 'wife'. "Tum kapde theek se nahi rakh sakti" (btw😐 why should she do it) and she had to walk up to the cupboard while he stood there watching the clothes lie on the floor, followed by "meri chappal Kahan hai?" (We've a bagful for you here, Chavan Saheb 🤣)

I guess in their moments of losing control, they have decided to make a spectacle of their relationship in front of the Chakram niwasis to hand them the license to intrude. And again, it was Virat who started the screaming -- for the third time.

Ab Chavan saheb, if "ye hum dono ka kamra hai" toh why do you have to send out these invitations to a third person to make an entry into that space. 😣 What kind of maturity is this? You can't handle the mention of a guy your wife has met, admired and danced with/for because she was mesmerised by his voice and so you get doubly offended because she's trying to remind you of a similar person in between the two of you, who's your baggage, frankly. 😒 All this for what: jealously?

Jealousy actually and undoubtedly is a weak, negative emotion that brings out anger, insecurity and humiliation, makes one question self-worth in a relationship and leads to unpleasant possessiveness, outbursts and overthinking. Often, even rock solid relationships fall prey to jealousy. And with Sai and Virat the relationship is like a boat stuck in the middle of a rocky River as of now.

Both of them have extreme self-esteem issues and it was evident from their conversation today. Both of them feel that the other does not value or acknowledge -- Virat's "Kaisa dikhta hai wo? Main kaise maan loon ki tum ne dance Kiya par acche se Nahi Dekha? Height kitni hai uski?" And Sai's "Aap meri tareef Kyun karenge? Aapka Khana Pakhi Didi layengi ya main laaun?"

But what a 'toxic' way of seeking the validation that they both want.

The kind of barriers they have placed in between them with all the farz, zimmedari, ummeed mat rakhna and samjhauta-deal-marriage has ended up damaging their sense of worth -- both of them don’t feel attractive and confident. It happens to the best of relationships when you hit a bump and it becomes so hard to truly believe that your partner loves and values you. In Sai's case, Virat's silence and actions towards the 'true love' has reinforced Sai's belief that she can never be the one he would desire as a woman as a wife. So, along with the knowledge that she's only a "temporary zimmedari", Virat's silence to all the moments when she seeks assurance by speaking of leaving, only makes her up her walls -- she doesn't like doing it either but she doesn't see any other way.

"Aap aayenge meri performance dekhne?" And before he can process the invitation, she goes, "Why will you come? You'll find this bachchon ka kaam and be busy! So it's okay if you don't."

Her negative emotional experience in the relationship -- thanks to all the T&Cs spelt out before the marriage and the grudging family to deal with-- is making her develop self protective layers during their private time, which only add to the negative experience that Virat then feels because his 'expectation' is dashed. He wants her to say things he wants to hear, which she refuses to say very deliberately even though she wants to say it as much as he wants to hear it.

The way the two of them are dealing with this emotion is actually very perturbing. As we get into the thick of this plot, it is perhaps revealing that very visible grey shade in Virat... I wonder if Sai has concluded too quickly about his "modern thinking" because unfortunately, he is a product of toxic patriarchy and to end a conversation that wasn't going his way, he ended up saying "You don't need to dance". Like, seriously, did I hear it right? And it wasn't said in a joke.

Come on Virat! You told her you sing and play the djembe... She asked you to sing but you were so hurt that your 'entitlement' over her had been questioned that you saw her excitement for a fleeting moment and dismissed it. And actually, please don't play the djembe. It's risky because you know it stimulates a serpent who can slither into your room even when you don't send out the loud, roaring invite like today... 😣

How badly do these two need to talk? I don't think any measuring tape can ascertain the height of their egos at the moment -- but while I would certainly point out to the fact that Sai did not respond positively to him in the initial conversation, leading to his jealousy amplifying to the size it did, Virat's selective outrage at her interaction with any other man and his need to have her drop out of something that he saw gave her the joy she had been missing is not a sign of healthy jealousy.

Jealousy can be constructively used if Virat can display the maturity he has been harping about to understand why does he get jealous. He's moving from compassionate and constructive to self destructive in the relationship. And how conveniently has he forgotten the reminders he gave her until very recently to 'umeed mat rakhna'

On Sai's part, she has been deliberately ignoring his needs because she doesn't think of herself as a 'wife' in their private space -- her 'ye Mera kamra Nahi hai' was so telling. She hasn't said that before. In fact, she has always called it 'pati Patni Ka kamra' and put up fight for her space. But not today-- because she's still fresh from the wounds inflicted on her by her husband's silence when a third person -- his 'true love', no less -- questioned her worth in the relationship where no one else should be speaking.

We can say Sai doesn't show her concern for Virat as much as he does for her but it's because Virat's own 'other' actions undo a lot of the messages he conveys when he cares. Recognising and embracing your spouse's enduring vulnerabilities, as well as your own, is extremely important to strengthen a relationship. It is a normal human emotion to feel jealous but not being able to stay in control of the situation is worrisome...

Sai shouldn't have taunted about the dinner. I was under the impression that the invisible dinner happened in between their changing into sleepwear but it seems like Chavan Saheb's dinner is mostly jinxed and adding to his jealousy... The scene conveyed Sai's intentional detachment. When he went silent, she walked up to his side with some amount of concern and wanting to mend things -- I almost thought she was going to sit beside him but then the offer to bring dinner combined with the question of the 'best friend' wasn't the best of the shots she should have played at that time. I feel she didn't anticipate his frenzied reaction but I am not happy with the way she framed her question. 😔 Why Sai? You are actually smart and you picked the right one when you asked: Aap itna gussa Kyun Hain? Maine Aniket ke gaane par dance Kiya isiliye ya main is programme me participate Kar rahi hoon isiliye?

Sai, you actually know the answer but I wish the man opens up and says it in spashth words so that this really petty fight can be nipped in the bud. But it doesn't seem so... I am not sure who am I feeling bad for... They're both in such a vulnerable state and show no signs of addressing their issues. Virat's screaming out to 'true love' is so unlike him and so unacceptable if he actually wants Sai to do what she is waiting for too...

And Sai, stop giving that serpent so much of your mind space or has it slipped into your mind already?

But because he's the one who sells machoority chooran after jalebis cause indigestion -- Did he realise what his screaming out to his bade Bhai ki wife did to the woman standing by his side? This will only push her back to her melancholy, having to look over her shoulder before attempting to fly. And what's worse is that she's going to look for Virat's reactions because they do affect her -- the man who is also watching her back but tongue tied! 😣🥺

Didn't you just tell her, 'ye hamara kamra hai'? Then why did you let your voice leave the space of that room, Virat? And more than the voice, you let Sai's joy leave that room and also the river -- it has flown by again.

Ashwini's parallel conversation with Ninad even as the younger couple's voices began to emerge was such a deep one -- Pati Patni ke rishtey ki gullakh me chillar pade toh thodi awaaz Hoti hai par beizzati ke patthar daloge toh Roz tootega hi tootega...

What are Virat and Sai adding to the gullakh of their relationship? Toxicity? I hope not.🥺


Both of them have missed so many opportunities just because they have deliberately held back. But in their moments of loss of control, they are giving away so much opportunity for bystanders to hurl a couple of stones towards their gullakh...

Virat, man, you need to pick up that book on your bedside and read the 'Living Strategy'. It will tell you why communication in spashth words is a must to build the trust and intimacy you seek in real life too. And Sai, please take heart ❤️ I can only hope that you'll soon pick up the sign of what this man wants and cannot say -- no, you don't have to take the first step even when you do but at least it will tell you that you don't have to take the two steps back when he's trying to reach you, walking over his jalebis 😑

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One word of appreciation for aadarniya Didi. Thank you for staying in the bed so far and not running out at the sound of 'Pa' from your true love 😣 and one ❤️ to that poor , poor photo of Samrat. I feel bad for that photo more than the man himself. I just hope he bugged that photo frame with a microchip before leaving the blank cheque book with his blank 'wife' 😂😆

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So the weekend is here and every Saturday has to end with a half finished screaming match. Next week, Chavan Saheb has two opportunities to sing and play his djembe -- at college and at Vasant Panchami 😳 (so they've been married for seven months already? 😓😨😢 Does it mean that Samrat is returning on the first anniversary or will Chakram niwas clock turn back in time after celebrating Holi next month?😒😖)

Whether he sings a tune of love or rant, we will know but dua toh yahi hai ki Sai ke ghungroo ki khanak should not diminish for any reason and any one. 🥺

I had asked yesterday, "Chavan Saheb dance ka sach jaan ne ke baad dinner khayenge kya?" Aapko pata chale toh batana 😅Someone give that Chavan a cup of black coffee-- he might just be able to detox from the extra sugar of his own jalebis! 😑😣 This man is really annoying me.

Tab tak, enjoy the coffee ☕ and your tea 🍵 along with hugs 🤗 love 💕 and remember what you behold right now is good. Because if it weren't, you'd never fear losing it...

Coffee makes everything okay, once a day!

Haste raho 😀 pyaar karte raho ❤️💕

Yahan tak aane ke liye, manapurvak aabhar 🙏🙏

💓 J

Loved your analysis.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Roch


Well beautiful as always, you have a way with words I must say. I wait for this everyday to understand a perspective. And it’s always a good one.


Will try and watch the episodes today and comeback with comments.


Regarding the outrage which you described, that’s jealousy yes but those are bottle up emotions and he is not handling them right. I wonder a man so mature and composed like Virat who was so balanced when his true love got married, what is happening now??? Is sawal ka jawab hi dhund lo Chavan Saheb, or May be I am overthinking😲

That is exactly what I have been wondering and pretty aloud too 😆 It actually makes it believable that we were told he's never been in a 'relationship'. There is a difference between managing people (a house of chakrams) and a relationship that brings along expectations that you have from no one else in the world. His conduct after he found out who 'Patralekha' was or going to be was so composed, although there was pain. He could even dance. But here, he can't help. 😆 I badly need a monologue of Virat to fix a few things, even if he gets nothing sorted at the end of it. At least a peek into his thoughts.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: VioletOrchid123

You are too good Janki🤣


I never thought any fictional man could make me do this 🤣 This is my first, too! 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Hello janki.....

Beautifully analysis as always....

I loved today's episode after a long tym.....virat jealousy was on mark....I enjoyed it...par Yaar virat sai tumse kitni saari baatein kar rahi thi Kuch uski taraf dhyaan de dete thodi Jo BHI "ket" hai use hata kar.....Tumne feel to Kiya Kuch keh hi dete usko motivate hi kardete....poor soul ACC to virat, sai ne Kabhi pyaar Nahi Kiya to phir tumhari wo tadap kaise pehchanegi.....Tumne to 1.47 wala pyaar Kiya hai na to samajh jate ke patthar ku Jo importance tum dete usse deal wali ko BHI Bura lag Sakta hai......hope patthar ke Saath wale scene ku Aai aake bacha le seriously agar virat Uske kamre Gaya na to phir use chappal dhoondne ki zaroorat Nahi padegi....

I missed Alexa today.....

please don't play the djembe. It's risky because you know it stimulates a serpent who can slither into your room even when you don't send out the loud, roaring invite like today... 🤣

One word of appreciation for aadarniya Didi. Thank you for staying in the bed so far and not running out at the sound of 'Pa' from your true love 😣 and one ❤️ to that poor , poor photo of Samrat. I feel bad for that photo more than the man himself. I just hope he bugged that photo frame with a microchip before leaving the blank cheque book with his blank 'wife' 😂😆....I second u on that😆 I feel bad for samrat.....

Hope we get Monday epi good one....toxy Didi Ku na dikha de veeru Baba ke Saath.....*waise low expectations*.....

Enjoyed Ur writings😳

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