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.Kiran. thumbnail
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Azmatazz

Loved your take however i wouldn't agree to what you said about Dadi..

I feel its high time Dadi made Maan realiize his mistake... The reason i say so is because MSK is stubborn and he needs someone to show him light... He does make mistakes but does not accept them soon or rather does not realize what he did unless someone makes him realize.. As much as i wanted Geet to take the initiative i loved what Dadi did today..
Since the day MSK had his ML dadi did not force Maan, rather she even went ahead and told Geet that she would be with her whatever he decision, when they realized Maan had an ML ( by decesion i assume she was ready if Geet wanted to stay away from MSK) But Geet said that she would never leave the house..
Secondly for MSK to realize or feel about Geet, he needs to know her, and to know her he needs to be around her. Had it not been for Dadi, Geet would have left after the office fiasco and MSK would not even have bothered to get her back. So i'm happy that Dadi fell ill and MSK was forced to get her back... Atleast that way they are around each other. After that again i did not ever see Dadi forcing MSK unless the this vrat thing.. Where she was right again. Only what was needed of MSK was to open her fast. Coz even though he does not remember anything Geet is his lawfully wedded wife and he cannot deny her rights. When he denied then too she did not force him but again when he accused Geet today, i guess that was when Dadi felt that it was a limit. Well he is realizing it slow that if he does not remember things its not Geets fault and i guess somewhere his family is playing a part in it. He always seem to be wondering why Dadi favours Geet so much? (food for thought)
Dadi made it clear once again today that MSK at times does not judge people correctly, if i remember in the era of the outhouse scenes too, when MSK was harsh with Geet, Dadi scolded him saying he is judging Geet wrong and every girl is not Sameera, if she did something wrong he cannot judge everyone as her... it was Dadi who was the catalyst who did not let Geet leave and thus MSK ultimately did realize his love for Geet...
So all in all i feel MSK is a stubborn guy who needs some kind of push at times. And Dadi did that correctly today. It may be emotionally blackmailing him but i feel that was again required.
BUT the best thing today i guess was Geet does realize that Maan needs space so tomorrow i predict she will just ask Maan to break her fast for the sake of Dadi and tell him that she understands he needs time and space and start distancing herself. (Hopefully)


I'd have loved dadi's efforts IF for once she has gone& talked to MSK!! For once she would've thought what he's going through!! JUST FOR ONCE!! Afterall, he is her grandson!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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no i agree with you, i am happy maan realised he was at fault to behave with geet like that and i was hoping that seeing geet faint would make him feel remorse and go to her and willingly break her fast but daadi screamed at him and forced him to do so, that ruins it for me because he would not do it because he feels bad for the way he behaves and feels like he owes her this much, rather he would do it because daadi threatened him that she would not eat or drink until he does it...so basically, he if he does break geet's fast (which i think he will tomorrow, he'll be doing it for daadi, rather than his own feel will. im happy he will do it but im not very happy about the reason. that was just my POV 😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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exactly!!...everyone understands Geet's pain but no one is even trying to understand Maan's POV...I felt for him yesterday when he said to Geet that try to see where I'm coming from then you might understand what I'm going through...It isn't as if MSK is being heartless...he just needs some space...he knows that Geet is his wife and whatever is happening is not her fault...not once did his own family even bother to ask about his state of mind and how he's feeling...he's an amnesiac patient for God's sake!!...he is not in possession of all his faculties...all they want is that he accepts Geet come hell or high water...I really hope that now Geet will give him the much needed space, because more than anyone she understands her Maan...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: jwalamukhi

msk never shares his pain with daadi...even if she tries to console him..or sooth him..maan hides his emotions from her and try to act normal before her...maan's daadi knew this quality of her grandson...


yes she was pushing him into relation...can we blame her?...no...in that all i can see is her urge to see them happy...she is trying to make things better between them...by her own way..in all these she is failing to understand maan needs time to think...and analyze his situation...

she knows her grandson well...thats why she is trying to protect their relation..if daadi would have not been there...MSK would have kicked geet out of the house long time ago..when he came to know she was his wife...post ML..

for now...it seems that dadi's actions are stupid and making maan to hate geet more...but in due course..everyone will understand her...


As I've said, I'd have appreciated her every single effort IF she would've tried to talk to him for once! MSK doesn't share his pain with anyone but he does listen to her! Doesn't he?? She should've tried to tell him that he's not alone & we all are with him! She also knows he doesn't like things being forced on him but styll she did force things on him & he did all those things for her!! Didn't he?? She would've somehow tried to talk to him!! Try to put urself in his situation, where u r going through a lot of pain & no one not even ur parents come & talk to you!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I think more than Daadima not caring for Maan it's the way she's handling the situation that's getting you so angry Chutki. Because we all know and you know that in fact Daadima does care for Maan hence her outburst towards him today. I think till now Daadima has been giving him space .. she hasn't exactly tried to force stuff on him but rather found ways to make sure he doesn't yell at Geet etc such as the day she pretended to faint in the kitchen .. those little things kept him from getting angry at Geet ..
but the problem for her began when he started to doubt Geet's every move .. started to yell at her without exactly finding out the entire truth .. esp today.. although it really wasn't Maan's fault but rather the rest who wanted Geet to pretend falling ill and hence his outburst .. I mean even I loved that he told NT he doesn't believe Geet would do so .. but when he sees them all smiling and winking at each other when Geet literally faints .. he becomes more angry .. and you can't blame him for that ...
I think Daadima has always been the emotional type .. she's always used this method to get Maan to do what she wants .. from day 1 we've seen her come to this decision of emotionally blackmailing him to get him to do stuff .. and we saw the same today .. but I guess her anger stemmed more from the fact that he didn't hear out if Geet was really ill before he started shouting at her ..
but as you can see .. even that didn't phase Maan and he was in his room resting on his chair .. clearly goes to show that he's adamant on the fact that he's not ready to accept Geet just yet ..
Geet has all the right to want him to break her fast .. and it's ok that she wasn't breaking it till he himself did it .. BUT I think now she realized that she cannot exactly force him to do it ... and she's going to his room herself to make him break her fast so that Daadima doesn't get sick by not eating ..
After this I think Geet is going to let MSK have some space and time to think over things.. and this will in fact bring them closer than ever :)
So I get why you're angry that Daadima yelled at him when he's already going through a tough time here .. but I guess in a way it was needed so that he realizes what he did .. and also that he should really just try and hear out Geet next time since she's not doing any of this on purpose .. but Daadi will be Daadi .. she uses her emotional weakness to get Maan to do stuff and is doing so till today!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -sum-

exactly!!...everyone understands Geet's pain but no one is even trying to understand Maan's POV...I felt for him yesterday when he said to Geet that try to see where I'm coming from then you might understand what I'm going through...It isn't as if MSK is being heartless...he just needs some space...he knows that Geet is his wife and whatever is happening is not her fault...not once did his own family even bother to ask about his state of mind and how he's feeling...he's an amnesiac patient for God's sake!!...he is not in possession of all his faculties...all they want is that he accepts Geet come hell or high water...I really hope that now Geet will give him the much needed space, because more than anyone she understands her Maan...


IN bold: when he said that, I had tears in my eyes!

& Today I was sure he'll break her fast cuz he realized his mistake! but now he'll break for dadi not cuz he feels so!! That's exactly what I'm trying to say! His family for once have tried to think from his POV .for once they should've talked to him & shared his pain! he would've felt lot better!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: mrs.MSK_GurTi


I'd have loved dadi's efforts IF for once she has gone& talked to MSK!! For once she would've thought what he's going through!! JUST FOR ONCE!! Afterall, he is her grandson!!

I agree but do you think Maan ever opens up to Dadi? I guess no... He never did and will not in future too.. I guess thats his characteristic and Dadi knows that well... Infact he does not even open up to Geet ... but its Geet who understands him well enough... Dadi does never force Maann for anything... but only when she sees him crossing his limits she intervenes...
Besides it does not make sense saying the family is not trying to understand Maan... Again think about it no one is forcing Maan to stay with Geet or accept, unless for this entire Vrat issue. Everyone just tries to remind him about her... in their own ways or tell him how they two were unseparable..
I guess its just efforts from their part since they all care for him and know how much he loved her. Something he does not remember now but eventually will...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: mrs.MSK_GurTi


As I've said, I'd have appreciated her every single effort IF she would've tried to talk to him for once! MSK doesn't share his pain with anyone but he does listen to her! Doesn't he?? She should've tried to tell him that he's not alone & we all are with him! She also knows he doesn't like things being forced on him but styll she did force things on him & he did all those things for her!! Didn't he?? She would've somehow tried to talk to him!! Try to put urself in his situation, where u r going through a lot of pain & no one not even ur parents come & talk to you!!


she should have talked to him...regarding what?..that they are for him...msk and his daadi share such a special bond..where there will be no necessity to say..that they are for each other in times of pain and misery...but sorry to say...u r all saying maan is undergoing pain...but i call it a confusion...or kashmakash...and it is nothing when compared to the number of deaths geet is dying every second...daadi being a women understood geet's plight and stood beside her...so i don't find anything wrong in her character...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Azmatazz

I agree but do you think Maan ever opens up to Dadi? I guess no... He never did and will not in future too.. I guess thats his characteristic and Dadi knows that well... Infact he does not even open up to Geet ... but its Geet who understands him well enough... Dadi does never force Maann for anything... but only when she sees him crossing his limits she intervenes...

Besides it does not make sense saying the family is not trying to understand Maan... Again think about it no one is forcing Maan to stay with Geet or accept, unless for this entire Vrat issue. Everyone just tries to remind him about her... in their own ways or tell him how they two were unseparable..
I guess its just efforts from their part since they all care for him and know how much he loved her. Something he does not remember now but eventually will...


If they cared for him so much, they would've once tried to talk to him!! That's all I'm asking about! Dadi ma always says she knows Maan just like u say geet does...so she should've understood what's making him so rude! How much pain is he going through! for once she should've gone & talked to him just like she does with geet!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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You're absolutely right Chutki .. I think Daadima next time should go and have a heart-to-heart instead of yelling or emotionally blackmailing .. I mean that's not the way to treat your grandson .. and I agree with you! I really want her to go and calmly talk to him now ..
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