3Iditz-Pammi ne Pilayi Lassi-Geet na Hasi na Phasi

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Idiots' Tantra Mala

Chamatkar ya Balatkar'idiots ki tantra mala....

We forgot we are Idiots who are supposed to do chamatkar and not balatkaar ...So new improved Tantra Mala includes what is defined as chamakaar and what is defined as balatkaar


Chamatkar:

1. Your POV
2. Symbolism
3. Ripping of promo, precap, episode
4. Deciphering the characters and their characterization.
5. Storyline, plot, future of the story, track or anything that a new character can bring
6. Ideas unique to Idiot Family
7. Songs, Shayari, Verses, Prose that bring newness to the thread related to the family, characters, story or in general entertainment.

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1. Bashing anyone ' character, actor, member or anyone who has expressed a POV you do not agree with
2. Ripping ' anyone
3. Ignoring ' Anyone

Ikkraar 😃

Aaaal Izzz Weelll as along as we agree to disagree..
Yaar paancho oongliyan barabar nahi hoti'aur muthi mooh par thodi na maarte hain..use to fight depression, oppression, compression, suppression, impression and enjoy the session

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1. The first three pages are for analysis ONLY as it gets lost in the pages later on. We have received requests for this.
2. The chat thread would be the previous day's thread. So feel free to express anything and everything there.
3. Once the reserve of spot is done within say the first hour, the thread is then open for discussion and replies.
4. Anyone who misses the boat on first three pages to analyse the episode, should send a pm to the opener to index the link so that people find it easy to read your take.
5. The thread will open at 9:00 pm IST

6.We want maximum people to read the analysis and appreciate the effort and time put into watching the episode several time to bring in nuances.

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I - Ideal Family

O - Obedient to MaanEet, and to each other

T - Talented People

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Mr.LVraaz aka Sexy Vinu's Spoilers:
(Vinu tum abhi bilkul nahin aana, warna tumhari khair nahin😉😆)



Index:


Rota:

Friday April 22nd - honeydew (Niha)

Saturday April 23rd - Any Volunteer? Please inform Niha (honeydew)

Next Week - Open - Please inform Nags if you are available to open the thread....
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Last night I was watching the MaanEet wedding scenes and after the wedding scene..I had watched reception scene of MaanEet..I hope you all remember that MaanEet got one photo frame in gift which was cracked from the middle'.CV's gave the hint to us that time clearly that in future MaanEet would get separated'That time we hadn't believed in such symbolism, cause the picture wasn't ripped from the middle it was just the glass, but yes it got proved now, that they got separated, and someone came between them'When I saw the scene, I was like it was clear message, but somewhere we hadn't accepted such message from them, cause we knew it that no matter what our MaanEet would be always together, and would fight for eachother only, cause of their strong bonding, but no, we proved wrong'

The relation actually our MaanEet used to share, it's not like before, it got cracked'Now as any common person they need people as well to make them realise their mistakes'.Like us MaanEet had trust as well on their selves, specially Maan had'Geet always so superstitious, and her fear came true'That's her fear, which made them apart, and it's Maan, who always had trust, which why he strongly facing this hard time with smile'.It's just their trust, their believes which running their life'I hope Geet will come out from her fear, until she will not come out from her fear her life always face the troubles only'..

Anyways I watched the scene, so thought to share this symbolism, this fact'..

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Today Pammi, Mammay & Balwante rocked...I loved talli forgetable Mammay....Poor Lucky even in bad condition he was just worried about his repu, poor guy kya dhullai hoiee hai....Loved when Mammay said "aise ro raha hai jaise kahin se dhulai kha kur aaya hai" lolz, i loved Mammay, aise hi bholta rahey...He even forgot who is Balwante lolz, and the way Biji and Tejji looked him with disguist lolz...

Loved the Pammi the most, loved her convo with Geet...Bang on girl, kissi cheez ko jitna khinchogye nukhsaan humara hi hota hai....Everything is fine untill it's in limit....

Loved Bijji's statement about Balwant, i hope she will react same once she will finds out about Balwant's real identity....

I felt Maan's pain when he sit in the car, poor guy😭, his true love, his trust will win...Chak De Maanwa.....


Geet - No comment at all till she accept her mistake by her mouth, and give solid reason of her being stubborn, and why she has done everything, better Maan not gonna stopped her with his dialogues......She should has to speak up....Munni believes in soul connection, body connection not inspires me till soul connection involves in it.....

Nice episode, love the track, no matter what issues i have with Geet, but why give punish to other characters, whom doing their part with such honesty...

10/10 for Pammi only......

Precap - Of course it's need to come last week, but thanks to PH, CH or whoever the reason for the whole dragging and blunder, thanks for breaking our hearts deeply...It just can heal up with Geet words only, woh bhi solid reason, blabbering or brainless reason will not gonna work...



Muniza

Edited by muniza75 - 14 years ago
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DEV-NANDANI - Totally not ACCEPTABLE!! What family in their RIGHT mind will allow another girl from their family anywhere near DEV? Lets not forget what he did to GEET....changed or unchanged, its too big a PILL to swallow that the HANDA family will allow Nandani anywhere near DEV...its truly ILLOGICAL and INTOLERABLE!!

------------------------------------------------After watching the episode------------------------------------

Ok episode....liked Beji for thinking about Balwant- Maan's suffering too!!


A few words from Maan to Geet.....

Usne hamare zakhm ka kuch yu kiya illaj,
Marham bi agar lagaya toh kanto ki nok se!!




From Geet to Maan..........


Khuda se thoda rahem khareed luoon
Tere zakhmo ka malham khareed loon,
Agar bikh jaye meri khushiyan kahin toh
Mein teri zindagi ke sare gum khareed loon...


Most Updated Family Picture....

VINU....he is taking the picture.... 😆


Edited by --Nargis-- - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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sochogi jab mere baare mein tanahaeeyon mei...
gheer jaaoge aaur bhee meree parachhaeeyon mei.....
dil machal jaayegaa, pyaar ho jaayegaa....

dilbar mere kab tak mujhe, aise hi tadapaaoge....
main aag dil mein lagaa doongaa wo, ke pal mein pighal jaaoge....

dil se milegaa jo dil to mahekane lagoge....
tum mere baahon mein aa ke bahekane lagoge....
Eh hosh kho jaayegaa, pyaar ho jaayegaa...

dilbar mere kab tak mujhe, aise hee tadapaaoge...
main aag dil mein lagaa doongaa wo, ke pal mein pighal jaaoge....😳😳
Reserved!!!😛
Edited by LavZ - 14 years ago
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-Jugnu Maame gonna train Lucky for next year..Waah I already see the Talli Future..🤣
Ballu taking full care of his saala😳
-*HAIYEEE* Msk quickly puts his hand on hers😳I think it was played twice so I got confused did he do it on purpose or it was an accident..oh well jo bhi ho..Moi liked it..😃
-She offers Paani 😳 and the continuous focus on Lips..Moi thought she would drink it and then offer it to him but sapnr paani mein doob gaye..😆the self-dialogues were totally apt..The pain is visible to both..Bas Geet has to bend and their relationship will be on track soon..Mundaa neva leaves a chance of holding her hand tight😳😆Maaneet having their eyelockss and geet trying to be free of her pati's chungal..Aye Le Lucky coughss to help geet..😆
-And Flippin Tejji ruins my mood..Fine he is pareshan abt Maan but your wife is talking to you..Can you say anything else than CHUP KAR? he is neva gonna improve na..for this pammi shuld have left the house so many times na...MSK loves HP express blabbing, but Tej shuts his wife all da tym..Geet I really want you to realize how hypocrisy follows in the house..They r protecting u from Maan's ill treatment but look around worse is happpening in your Mahaan Beeji's house.. and what ws wid da look beeji and teji gave to her to say leave the room now, we wanan talk simfin imp..Cmon she is the DIL of the house and u kick her out..😳
How old are Tejji and Beeji? They still haven't bothered to find out why the rift was created between Maaneet?They are only looking at one side of the coin, what about the other?
-Pammi is so much more understanding..She has more sense than the so-called sensible leaders of the house Tejji and Beeji..Aren't they supposed to understand how a martial relationship works..Oh I forgot Tejji never had a martial relationship..He just has a full time servant as his wife..
-LMAO Lacchi updating Yashpal and he hides..why are the drivers of this house always Hiding🤣
-Jugnu Maame putting salt on lucky;s wounds by wondering "He looks as if he has been thrashed in kushti"🤣🤣🤣and he makes Balwant maali🤣waah now MSK will have to use his KM wala Maali's traning..*haiyyee* dostanaa days yaad aa gaye..
-I loved Pammi&Geet's Convo😳Kahan Phas gayi bechari Pammi..if tejji keeps on treating her lyk tht she deserves sumone else..She realises Geet's dilemma being a woman, she knows how she has been waiting for the love she always wanted but she never got it..She knows Geet has the love she just doesn't want to look at it..she makes her realise there is no point in dragging the fight when you have already forgived him..and Look at Tejji and Beeji they keep on thinking Maan is going to harass Geet by tieing her or sumfin..The huge difference between the two elders and Pammi..How many times does Beeji drink Tea..Poore din PAMMI CHAAA Pammii chaaa..KEEL ME..
-Geet cums to his Zakhmi Sher (if Lacchi was there he wudl say Knock karkee kyun nahin aayi😆)MSK gets full excited coz his prediction came truee..Gith aayegi GIth aayegi Lape leke geet aayegi..aaa Gayi but with ghussa on her Naak..😆Haha and Maan takes it oevrboard by saying "You came to confess your love" but lil does he knw that she is gonna drop da Dev bomb again and see his reaction..Kurri is always Testing Munda and he fails coz he removes his hand as soon as she mentions dev coz of his lil insecurities..
-Now Geet will share every little thing about dev to Maan bcoz before she didn't and the huge hungama happened lol😆
-The Bend-Break Loop opened today it will close with the Full SR...😆
-LOL the bruise's size shape kee on changing everytym the camer ais focused on it😆
so tomorrow she will apply the lape and 24 hour dhamki..Msk Bcums gayab..Geet goes running to find him..Bend-break loop clsoe in da tabelaa..😆Followed by Duplicate MSK's entry..another trouble knocing on da door..
Precap:Geet thinks MSK will never leave which is why the 24 hours attitude but MSK is not gonna give up either..He will leave her and she will go to him..I can't wait to see her being restles..😈
Edited by Cute_Ash - 14 years ago
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Drops make the ocean, the reason being that there is complete cohesion and co-operation among the drops. Similarly human beings. Every act or deed committed to movement needs equal cohesive and cooperative movements from all others in that environment, otherwise there arises conflict and misunderstanding.

There is so much pain in Maan's eyes in not being able to make Geet say those words that spell compassion and love. He is a catalyst crying out "Be the change you want to see in the world"'The kushti match weighed him down in pain physically but earned him the izzat of the Maasi khandan. He made that change for this household to uphold. A drop melts into the ocean but an ocean will not melt into the drop. Only Geet knows her heart that can be pacified only by Maan who has created his niche in this household. He has in actuality won the love and hearts of all. Throughout her new born life, only one man made the difference - and that is Maan . Maan by now knows it, and reflecting the truth of Geet's heart is Pammi who is indeed only a mirror to reflect Geets emotions and true feelings now worded by Pammi.

Rabindra Nath Tagore wrote "Pluck this little flower and take it. Delay not. I fear lest it drop and drop into the dust". The flower symbolizes the beauty of maan's eternal love for Geet. There is no delay from Maans side. Geets persistent indifference to tackle this love without melting into the moment or Maans love will only make subtle nuances more important than the bigger gift of love. Time is ticking away.

Pammi is growing large in my heart day by day. She is a sweetheart. Her understanding of love in its most simple and elusive form but holds its weight in gold. How simply she used the analogy of Lassi and compared it with the MU brewing in Geet's heart. And Pammi's words are allowing Geet to discover, acknowledge, appreciate, own and honor the authentic gift of forgiveness. Forgiveness of Maan. Pammi sees with her heart.

On a clear day one can see forever. I love the way Maan already speaks Geets heart before she can even word it. So much of confusion in Geets mind all put to total rest with Maans words prophetically telling her that he already knows why she is in the room with the medicine, because she cares, loves him and cannot stand to face his pain any longer. I love the way Maan insists on the med to be rubbed on him. Symbolically the truth that only Geet can take away his pain and likewise Geets heart is soothed knowing Maan's wounds are healed. THe two of them have always been a balm for one another. The med could have been brought to Balwant through lacchi. Here Pammi was the catalyst to the change. I love the way he brings her down to earth to show her how to love him. Bravo Maan Singh Khurana. You steal every space in my heart day by day.

Maan is making his own imprints in the life of this household. And doing that implies that he knows exactly how to express "his own immitable style".

Lucky paaji and Mamaji, two losers who think alike. Neither had the courage to answer the call of physical strength. They needed to gain strength, courage and confidence by every experience in which they really had to stop and look fear in the face. They needed to do the things they cannot do. One chose to drown in drinks, the other cowed down to weakness. Maan gained his strength from their weakness. Hillarious Lucky who wanted Geet to wake him up to sit upright once they entered the town lest the town folk make fun of him. Mamaji who gets a reboot from Maasi. All add to the entertainment.

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Hello Girls....

how are all ???
geet is the only one who can lagao lep on Maans wounds.. or his heart .. a beautiful symbolism brought in ...
she will try and run away from his as she is angry since he hurt her, but her love for him will not let her stay angry for too long..
and for all those that thought her POV was not shown... i think it was beautifully yet subtly done through Pammi .. who talks about geets state of mind.. does Geet deny .. well she doesnt .. and as to why she didnt say it herself .. its very simple according to me.. she will open her mouth and say things only and only to Maan.. and thats exactly what she did... dont forget, Geet is totally herself only when Maan is around her .. and thats been the case right from the start ..he brings out the best as well as the worst in her ..
even now though she has softened towards him when she goes to talk to Maan, she wants him to know she is angry .. why?? cos only she knows how hurt she was ..only she knew wad his words and actions done in haste resulted in.. and what they made her go through.. time and again, what Geet is all about has been brought out by various other characters on the show .. remember beeji saying Geet is not someone who would pick up a fight over something silly? or darjee talking about the kinda girl she is... its a fanastic way of showing how different characters on the show are interlinked with Geet .. even a Nandini who has just come in, hates Maan Singh Khurana because the only thing she knows about him is that he has hurt her sister .. and the lead ups to the scenes where Dev is shown as a lafanga following a girl, or where he rushes into the ladies bathroom.. are all going to lead to further mess..
Maan knows Geet really well.. he knew she wouldnt rest until she made sure he was fine .. and he taunts and teases her about it as well..
Maan has just about started making a place the house, why would he leave.. for now its only going to be geet trying to show maan she doesnt care cos she has been hurt, but all of that back firing on her since she loves him so much and that takes over everything else ...
Balwant has proven his strength and his might... i was just imagining a scenario where what if Teji sets Balwant himself out to find Dev and take him to task? and that promo now makes sense.. since they will patch up.. and Balwant will be shown Dev and he will be asked to beat dev up .. now is a good chance for maan to get his frustrations out and perhaps punish Dev for all the angst he had against him in the past .. but will Maan use it?

bachna e idiotss..
lo main aa gayi...
vinu ki aashiq(ni)
negativity ki dushman
apni ada hai na kabhi
nautanki se juda..
hey hoo!!😉


love,
niha
Edited by -honeydew- - 14 years ago
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hello all my beauties,

Today's episode had just one thing that proved to be very poignant for me. It was Pammi n Teji's convo.
She was lost in her chatter n he was lost in his thoughts about Maan. But in that moment Teji's brash conduct with her got to me. True she didn't really spare a thought to his state of mind, neither did he consider paying attention to what she said. But he did pay atention to the same thing when Beeji told it to him.

Teji is a good maan -one can see it in his love for Nandini, his encouragement for Lucky for his Kushti, his respect for Beeji, his concern for Geet n his acknowledgment for Maan's wisdom. But he isn't as generous towards his wife...true he yells at her only when he's alone, but that hardly amounts to concern or wisdom or love.

When pammi, told Geet ,'' a woman's heart - always hungry for love'. did she speak about her own experiences? I'm sure she did.

And the sad part is that most of the Indian women are subjected to such treatment(if not as harsh) leading to our wide range of Saas-bahu sagas.

How i wish Teji could be shown the true meaning of ''better half''. He doesn't seem to realize how loving and caring a wife he has. it was seen in her concern towards Geet/lucky/beeji. my heart went out to her.

ok me done typing this for the nth time.




Edited by mechantefille - 14 years ago
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HELLO, MY LOVELY LADIES -🤗
here is a link to a post I made to vent out my frustration:
Some IDEAS for the CVs for Geet and Maan's mutual apology:
enjoy!!!
And our newborn family pic courtasy NAGS for expanding my lame picture taking attempt from yesterday:

VINU....he is taking the picture.... 😆




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MAAN AUR GEET KI KAHAANI - AAJ IS GAANE KI ZUBAANI

Hairaan hain hum
Huye kyun tum gairon se
Kaisa hai gam
Bolo na tum honthon se

Na tum ho bewafaa
Na mein bhi hun
Phir bhi hain hum judaa
Main kya kahoon
Na jaane waqt ki marzi hai kya
Kyun hai mili yeh dooriyan
O meri jaan'o meri jaan
O meri jaan'o meri jaan
O meri jaan

Tere bin jo din aaya
Kaate na woh kat paaya
Kami teri khal si jaati hai
Tere bin jo shaam aayi
Badhi dil ki tanhai
Meri aankhen bhar si jaati hain

Kuch tum mujhse khafa
Kuch main bhi hun
Hai kya iski wajah
Main kya kahun
Na jaane waqt ki marzi hai kya
Kyun hai mili yeh dooriyan
O meri jaan'o meri jaan
O meri jaan'o meri jaan
O meri jaan

Tujhe dil se tha chaaha
Tu hi toh na mil paaya
Khushi mujhko chal si jaati hai
Mere tu tha sarmaaya
Tujhe paaka na paaya
yahi baatein chubh si jaati hain

Tanhaa teri tarah haan main bhi hun
Donon hain gamzadaa main kya kahun
Na jaane waqt ki marzi hai kya
Kyun hai mili yeh dooriyan
O meri jaan'o meri jaan
O meri jaan'o meri jaan
O meri jaan'o meri jaan
O meri jaan




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TODAY'S TAKE

Al My Love thank you for an out of the world analysis of my ordinary apology of Maan and Geet!
I have been all caught up. I have managed to keep tailing the thread and keep up with what Nihu, Mummy, Nags and you have said in your takes, as well as your responses to each other... and I have a composit thing to say! I have a good feeling and a bad feeling.
You and Nihu's points are very well taken, understood, and digested. However I also side with Nags and Mummy in some of my reservations about what the future track has in store for us in terms of Nandini/Dev, as well as Geet's self reflection.
All of your symbolisms are MIND BLOWING! Whether it was in form of water, or lep, or maan's understanding of Geet, or Pammi's words reflecting Geet's heart!
For me - there is a lot to be sad about and a lot to be happy about! I am extremely fragile now. I always worry about what the CVs will do next.
I was thinking -
Even before this track started, I had blind faith in the creatives of this show. I worshiped the dialogue writer and I adored the direction and long term vision of this show.
So even when they brought the AA track I hated it but was least bothered by it. I was sure that Arjun will try very hard to tackle MSK but Maan will triumph over him - However this never got shown.
I was sure that CVs will show the interlacing of AA track with MSK's and that will open doors to infinite possibilities - that never happened. AA track went on to continue disappointing. Al I agree the actors came out as winners as they got groomed very well in the process, but the story itself added no value to GEET - the journey of a woman.
When Dev got brought into the picture - I was sure that they won't make a mess out of this story like KEKTA shows and they won't create MU's between Geet and Maan because of Dev. - Well they did NOT disappoint. Maan never blamed Geet, or distrusted her. That's an admirable step of CVs that I respect them for. They didn't even ONCE butcher or deviate Maan's character no matter how many people changed in the production team. Hat's off to them for giving MSK that consistency.
But then rumors started pouring in. Maan to be upset at Geet getting closer to Dev. Geet to forgive Dev. Geet to play holi with Dev. Maan to misunderstand Geet instead of confronting her. Geet to leave Maan -
One afte another headlines and would you believe - I DIDN'T BELIEVE A SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
I was so sure that CVs are just trying to mislead us and they will sort these issues out before we know it. They can't give us this mockery of a track. - and guess what - THEY DID.
I bit my tougue and swallowed the poison - absolutely hated how that whole misunderstanding was handled. No I am not saying that Geet Maan shouldn't have been separated, but there were so many other reasons they could have shown. Anyway - been there done that. Let's move on.
Finally when the new family settled in, it gave us hopes to another limitless number of possibilities in guise of Lucky/preeto, mammey, pammi/teji, even dev/nandini!!!
But what we are seeing now is the track between Geet and maan just drag on without really showing any underlying depth.
No I am not questioning Geet's ego, or her decision of leaving, or her love for MSK, or her weakness. I am only requesting a justification in true form, for why Geet felt it was sooo inevitable for her to leave the man of her life. Now Nihu dear I understand how beautifully you have justified why she did it - I want to hear her say it, or hell just think it... just once. Not in Pammi's words, or Maan's head, or Biji's or daarji's words - in her own words. I have not seen that self reflection! And I am craving it.
Dev/Nandini track - if Dev goes to get redeemed by this similar personality woman who will treat him like the dirt of her shoes, well all the more power to the creative team for giving us such a powerful track and loop closure in redeeming Dev. it would be amazing.
My only sadness is, that I have NO FAITH in the creatives of this team! Everytime we are given a ray of hope for something good, they manage to ruin it with something completely useless.
If all those filler episodes earlier this week was so that this track can be prolonged, then they are making a grave mistake and being hasty about it, and it SHOWS!!!
Edited by dtri - 14 years ago

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