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Taiyo

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Ria_Sengupta: I am a viewer in India and do understand what Geet's frame of mind, and the people I know hold the similar opinion like mine. A particular opnion cannot be seen as Gospel's truth.

Sush1 : Brilliant Post. The grieving phase post-MC was dealt correctly according to me.

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Posted: 14 years ago

#32

Originally posted by: jwalamukhi
what is this? who is wrong? who is right?

This is a daily show where hundreds of families are getting livelihood from it. To take story ahead they need to take twists without hurting maan/geet fans......so they took this point instead of going with infedility issues........

To give one episode we know how much hard work they are doing...........the main thing is daily soaps do not have logic.....it is an universal truth.....so why are we fighting on that.....

Coming to maan making sacrifices...........can u really bear spoiling of maan character.....nai na.....then.....without spoiling his character they started new track.....then what is the problem? Tell me is there any show in which hero is given this much importance as they are giving for maan in geet......no......Though the story is about geet.....the entire story is now based on maan only....

No one dares to touch maan...no one has enough courage to insult maan.....He himself is going all through these for his love........u r saying it sacrifice.....and i am saying it is his ultimate act in his love......

maan he himself clearly said that he is doing all these things just for himself...because he finds his happiness in geet........now also he came here and doing all these things for sake of his happiness.......If a person does anything for his happiness...is it called a sacrifice........

Instead of judging who is wrong/right why can't we appreciate the hard work these ppl are doing...

well I know GHSP is fictional show and always watch it with this fact. For me long run of GHSP is most important than anything else😉

@jwalamukhiji,,,,lines in red👏 I 100% agree.

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mausam19

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Posted: 14 years ago

#33

Originally posted by: ria_sengupta

please tell me the difference between criticizing geet and criticizing cvs? does geet exist in reality?i realy don't understand when sm people say,bash cvs,not geet! and sorry, a wife does not have the right to hurt her husband unnecessarily-and that is what geet is doing right now! so what,if maan does not have a problem?most people do!

I really don't understand why do people feel that they know everything & others are fools . I think people must understand , that actors act according to the script written by CV . So instead of bashing Geet you have to understand whom to bash .

You please do not reply to my post as i don't wont your suggestions . I have not written for your comment so do not reply .

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sush1

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Posted: 14 years ago

#34

@ ria_sengupta

I do not think you got my point. I do not also want to sound patronizing or condescending. But if Geet is depressed then how does she realize that she is hurting Maan. Patients who are clinically depressed loose touch with their surroundings and do not respond to any outside activity (stimulus)

So your statement 'a wife does not have the right to hurt her husband unnecessarily' does not hold good under these circumstances.

Let me put it this way, Say,

you have got your results of an very important exam. You are confident that you have done well but the results show that you have failed in it.

What is your immediate reaction? Will you cry? Will you be stunned? If your friends ask you any question will you answer to them? If your sister comes to console you, will you listen? If no family member is available to share your grief and to counsel you, will you not get depressed? 😭😭

Imagine the state of your mind under the above conditions and multiply it several times in magnitude and now picture Geet's status I am sure you will understand her situation.

I think I am getting too technical so I will sign off.😆

If I have trespassed on your personal space, then due apology, but I deal with similar cases day in and out, so it pinches me when a women does not empathize another women's grief. 😊

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Posted: 14 years ago

#35

Originally posted by: pal_2010

Yes I agree with you..he know how to love ...

maan is very instictual...i call him the beast...he follows his instincts when it comes to loving geet...he doesn't sit and analyse too much...and when he does wrong...he knows it by instinct and doesn't sit to analyse it too much either...he instinctively just tries to rectify...so his gestures seem grand..because there was very little meditation or planning...

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Posted: 14 years ago

#36

Originally posted by: ASMI95

there has been differences frm da biggining

i suppose its da way cvs wanna shw

but i dun undrstnd y dey suppress geet sacrifices not da maan hasent done his part (evn more)

but on geet 's side its so less dat ppl tend to frget it

i like where you are going with this...there is absolutely a case for geet making sacrifices as well...

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FJkhushbu

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Posted: 14 years ago

#37

Originally posted by: sush1
I am not sure but I am making a wild guess that the viewers who are discussing the show are not in medical or para medical field.

I also do agree that it is ridiculous to mention about logic in a serial like GHSP which has taken huge cinematic liberty in the name of science,😆😆 so a short lecture in medicine and psychiatry. Will try to keep the terms simple, so that a layman understands. 😊

Clinically I can say that Geet is showing typical symptoms of post MC depression which may be similar to post natal depression due to abrupt hormonal changes and the major trauma of loss of child. 😭😭

The patient under these circumstances may show one of the following symptoms

1. The patient withdraws to herself and reduces communication with outside world (check)
2. Refuses to eat or take medicine (check, check)
3. Periodic bouts of crying (check, check)
4. Disinterested in many routine activities (check)
5. Disinterested in well being of near and dear ones ( Cases have been reported where in mothers refuse to tend to their children under these circumstances) (check)

This behavior may continue for period of 4-6 months depending upon the person and support system available. Under such circumstances it is not surprising that Geet is not responding to Maan's presence or his behavior as she would have done if she was normal. Most probably she is not readily registering what Maan is undergoing as she has withdrawn into herself. For her to react to any stimulus in a sensible manner or her usual manner will take time, clinically.

Since she is still depressed she requires one of the following in the order of priority.
1. Medication
2, Councelling
3. Love and support

She is getting 3 adequately from Maan and her family and is showing signs of improvement. She will be back to normal in a short period. May be Darji will provide 2 which will hasten her recovery process.

Now, many are of the opinion that Maan also is in pain due to her MC. But for Maan it is only mental agony while for Geet it is both physiological and mental which takes time to recover.

So next time when we think of Geet's attitude if we keep this in mind that she is clinically depressed then it may help to understand as to why she is not responding to the stimulus (Maans insult/his pain/his love) immediately.

Any more queries on this are welcome.

totally agree wid u.....nobody is trying to understand GGET's situation..........everone is saying that how cn GEET do this wid MAAN who loves her so much!!....well pyaar kiya hai koi ehsaan nhi kiya....GEET also love him....thats'y she cudn't bear those hard words said by MAAN.

and SUSH....u shud tell this same thing by create a separate post in the forum.

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Opti

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Posted: 14 years ago

#38

Originally posted by: ria_sengupta

well,..............i am guessing u do not want maan to reap a rich reward, sorry,if i am wrong, but from the tone of ur comment,it seemed so......

Dont assume things on your own. What do you mean by the tone of my comment? I was merely stating a fact. Why should I not want any one, let alone Maan from reaping the rich rewards of his hard work? Have we not seen enough so far to safely conclude that this is how the track will end? Let me make it very clear here. I am a Maaneet lover and not a Maan or Geet lover. If a particular track provides for entertainment I will watch it.

There may be reservations I may have on the way the female protagonist has been portrayed here but I also know that they are doing this so as to make Geet's stay in this new family longer. Since the new family is any day more interesting than AA track and Dadi's nautanki, I'm willing to put up with it. Yes, Geet's character has been sacrificed here. Do l like it. No, I dont. Would have preferred if both their characters were preserved but at least in this track they are showing an interesting story revolving other characters as well and giving us some cute Maaneet moments. Dont you think this is far better than the IP track where Maan was acting like a child who has had his candy snatched away and hence so vengeful against Geet?

This is a daily show. If Maan and Geet act impeccably well, how long can they run it? I would have preffered if Geet is shown to have some self talk where she at least thinks to herself she knows what Maan did was only out of anger and that she has forgiven him in her heart but is unable to go with him without antagonising her rigid family. So she is staying back and pretending to be still angry with him because she loves him and does not want him to get hurt which she fears he will if the two brothers get together and bash him. This way they can continue to show the new family and Maaneet and the characters too would not be compromised but then I guess the CVs were never good in these self talks. We never knew what was in Maan's mind during the IP track, did we?

Coming to the sacrifice part. Let me tell you something. When you love someone too much, you never think about how much you are sacrificing for that person. Does a mother keep a count of the things she is doing for her child? To Maan Geet is acting like a wilful child. He know why she is acting that way. She has had a huge loss and before she fully recovered from it he uttered some thoughtless words which has broken her. He understands her pain and is willing to give her a long rope. We see Geet is hanging herself in that rope. She will realise the extent her actions are hurting her man and will repent soon enough. Have we not seen her always make amends? So why worry our heads when we already know the outcome? Lets watch this show for its enterainment value instead of getting into who is right and who is wrong.

I would have given this long explanation before but I thought a light hearted comment will do. Looks like it does not.

Edited by Opti - 14 years ago

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SGuru

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Posted: 14 years ago

#39

"I just wanted to comment on one part of your comment - You'd wondered why Dev was forgiven and Maan's sacrifice overlooked? I won't comment on why Dev was forgiven, I wasn't following the episodes then. But as for why the expectations from Maan are greater? Think about it -

We always, ALWAYS, expect more from those who're closest to us, love us more, who we love more. And, conversely, it is THOSE folks who we fight with most, get angry at most, and resolve things with most. We make an effort to resolve little and big things with those we care about teh most, and it is with these folks that we cherish our relationships most. It's a wife's prerogative to be angry with her husband, just like it's a husband's prerogative. If Geet is upset with him because he did something, then she was hurt by it, tremendously. Hence the anger. Was she hurt by what Dev did? Yes. Was she hurt tremendously? Yes. But she never loved him as much as she does Maan. She never trusted him, gave up for him, fought for him, as much as she does Maan. So, the hurt from Maan meant a whole lot more. And if I remember correctly, Maan said something along the lines of Geet having lost her self respect? That's a pretty bad thing to say, anger or no anger.

So if she's mad at him, that's her right. But that anger, THAT hurt, cannot be compared to her forgiving Dev. Dev was a no body, who hurt her and changed her life. But she didn't feel much for him past the initial infatuation and trust of a new wife. We all know she'll forgive Maan, even she knows it, subconsciously. But that's because THEIR relationship is worth fighting for, worth being angry about, worth the 'manaofying' stage. Dev and her relationship wasn't.

Don't compare the two - it showed character in Geet, and strength, for her to forgive Dev, and move on. IT also showed the biggest, most important, strongest bond between Geet and Maan - that Geet loved Maan more than she hated Dev. That Geet loved Maan enough to forgive and forget ALL her past for Maan's sake. THAT, to me, is the ultimate sacrifice.

I would never have forgiven Dev. But that's me. Geet is a MUCH stronger character. It takes a VERY strong person to forgive what she forgave. Yet ppl seem to be throwing her under the bus for such an act, instead of praising her. Please remember - she did it FOR Maan. It was her love, her respect for Maan, for a future together WITH Maan, that made her take that step.

Hope that helps folks understand her a bit."

But she never loved him as much as she does Maan. She never trusted him, gave up for him, fought for him, as much as she does Maan. So, the hurt from Maan meant a whole lot more.

Geet loved Maan more than she hated Dev. That Geet loved Maan enough to forgive and forget ALL her past for Maan's sake. THAT, to me, is the ultimate sacrifice.

WOOOOOOOWWWWWW.........SO BEAUTIFULLY SAID AS NEVER BFORE.....................

I'M LOVING IT DDEAR...................

Edited by CuteTommy - 14 years ago

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@lilmzsunshine

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Posted: 14 years ago

#40

Originally posted by: sush1
@ ria_sengupta

I do not think you got my point. I do not also want to sound patronizing or condescending. But if Geet is depressed then how does she realize that she is hurting Maan. Patients who are clinically depressed loose touch with their surroundings and do not respond to any outside activity (stimulus)

So your statement 'a wife does not have the right to hurt her husband unnecessarily' does not hold good under these circumstances.

Let me put it this way, Say,

you have got your results of an very important exam. You are confident that you have done well but the results show that you have failed in it.

What is your immediate reaction? Will you cry? Will you be stunned? If your friends ask you any question will you answer to them? If your sister comes to console you, will you listen? If no family member is available to share your grief and to counsel you, will you not get depressed? 😭😭

Imagine the state of your mind under the above conditions and multiply it several times in magnitude and now picture Geet's status I am sure you will understand her situation.

I think I am getting too technical so I will sign off.😆

If I have trespassed on your personal space, then due apology, but I deal with similar cases day in and out, so it pinches me when a women does not empathize another women's grief. 😊

Oh God, finally!!! I'm so glad someone brought in teh depression angle. I actually went through PMD after my first born. It's totally illogical, you cry at teh oddest things, you get mad an any body and every body, and ... well it makes no sense. And rest, love, TLC, and sometimes medication (not in my case, but then thankfully I did not have a miscarriage), is ALL Geet needs to get her out of this situation.

I don't understand why this has to become a battle ground. So what if she's mad at him? So what if he's trying to manofy her? I honestly don't get the big deal? Why does majority always side with the hot dude? Give the girl a break - she just had a miscarriage for crying out loud!!!!!! Jeez.

And as for those who commented on my comment about forgiving Dev - again, Jeez! I thought it was a act of great strength to do that, but again, SHE WAS IN DEPRESSION!!!! If she was thinking with a clear head, she woulda forgiven Dev a while ago. When in depression, you have your ups, and downs. There are days you're totally fine, and then you collapse like a ton of bricks. So she probably went through those days.

BUT

Even if she didn't, I stand by what I said. Forgiving Dev would come a lot easier at a time like this. I'll give you an example. Someone in my family hurt my immediate family member - horribly, beyond words. We all hate that person. Much, much, later in life, when that family member of mine was happily married, with children, our parent passed away. At that time, during the last few weeks with that parent, we realize how fragile, how short, and how PRECIOUS life is. It is NOT worth holding onto hate, for whatever reason. It is much better to forgive, and move on. I did NOT say forget, and not be watchful. But DO MOVE ON. And that is what Geet did - she MOVED ON. She doesn't LIKE Dev, she isn't gonna become best buds with the guy. She's forgiving him TO MOVE ON WITH MAAN.

And then why isn't she forgiving Maan, for Maan? Someone asked that - well, think about it sweetie - the guy in question is the ONLY person she feels she could open to, trust whole heartedly, fall back on. And that person hurt her - NO MATTER HOW MINUTE OR HUMONGOUS - so obviously she'll be mad. I don't get why folks don't get this aspect. Of course she'll forgive the guy, EVEN SHE KNOWS IT!!! But not yet. Not after a healthy dose of cat and mouse game. She's entitled, she lost a child.

For all of those fighting for Maan here - how many of you are married and have had fights with their husbands REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU WERE RIGHT OR WRONG? And how many of you have had serious medical issues with your children? If you haven't had a child, or lost one (hopefully none here), you have no idea, NO IDEA what Geet's going through right now.

I had one incident when my oldest almost drowned - All I can say is, that was 5 years ago, and I still remember it like it was yesterday. I was more traumatized than he was, and I still remember it, although he's forgotten it, thank fully. A mother doesn't get over these things. And a father knows that, or should know that.

Those of you who say, or have said, that Maan also lost a child - honestly, you have NO idea. None. Nada. The trauma that Geet is feeling, physically, Maan can't relate to. The trauma that she's feeling due to hormonal imbalance, Maan can't relate to. The trauma she's feeling psychologically, due to the death of her child, THAT Maan can relate to. The depression she's feeling, Maan can't relate to.

So you all need to cut her some slack. She WILL act rashly, illogically, - par for the course.

This is teh longest I've written on this forum I think - signing off.

Sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings here folks - it's all a show, jsut a show - remember that. So if I seemed over zealous in some areas - ignore.

-S