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Posted: 15 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: ash08



Bridge, it has always been a male dominated society.... But I would say the onus of explaning their pasts lies equally with both man and woman.. You are right, a woman has more at stake maybe because from time immemorable woman has always been given the stature of maintaining the honour and has always been given the stature of being pure??

More than the purity of the body isn't it the purity of the soul that should matter? I guess we will never find the answer.




now this is so thought provoking...a different route...

as Ash said..the battle between Man and Woman will remain till time does...
Being male dominated world, it runs by their rules...but the difference starts right from our physiognomy.. man has outward appendage that helps him procreate while a woman takes it all in...

she is made to take things deeply and yes she is stronger( mentally) more tolerant and more understanding.
Men forget that the one who brought him to the world can easily take charge of him, it is women who have let man rule not because men are stronger or more powerful but women know what reality is...is the saying not sufficient enough that behind every successful man there is a woman and also...there is the story of Trojan Horse and Troy is it not...

so yeah..this fight for ultimate power will be fought as long as time lasts..
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Posted: 15 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: bDgT



Absolutely for the words in blue! Absolutely, no doubts about that! But will we ever see that etched out in our living rooms? Can this serial rework the math?

For the words in red, guess it has to do with the fact that you mentioned as well as the fact that "woman" is for ages tied in to the sacred/sacred mother/sacred virgin or whatever the concept that all religions keep on espousing. It is bigoted and misogynistic but that is how they keep it in India till date in some tradition bound societies right.

Will there ever be a day when they say that "a woman is chaste in spirit, soul and mind? even if she may not be chaste in her body or mores?" Well! I guess we need to find an alternative universe for that or a copybook/story book man for that!

Sorry for ranting so much on this subject!



@pink - Nope sweets. Its nice to have an intelligent conversation with you.

Things have been so for eons dear. I don't think it will change so soon. Some societies base it on tradition, some societies base it on development. Some people are vocal about it, some people just work on it..... It is difficult to change the entire population of the earth for such thinking is embedded into our very beings.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: lghosh

Well as much as we don't want it to happen I think it will. Naintara won't let Geet off the hook so easily. I have no idea how she will besmear Geet's reputation but I am sure she will. And Dev will also play along I think just to avoid Maan's wrath all over again. But here the question will be how will Maan take it all? Will he believe Geet over Dev & NT? How will dadi react to all this & will that carry some weight on Maan's reaction as well, which I hope is not the case!

I am loving every moment of the show & till now feel the CV's have kept it unique from the other shows & sincerely hope they will do so in future as well.
It will be interesting to see if Maan in front of everyone accepts Geet with all her baggages & gets ready to marry Geet & give her baby his name. And after marriage how they r slowly taking their time to make things normal between them & really acknowledging their love for each other slowly, that will be an amazing scenario but doubt if that will be followed. So as I said for now I will enjoy these scenes whatever little we will get.



Dev and NT can try, but it all boils down to MAAN as you said. Regarding Daadi, will she be in the loop or will they keep her out of the loop initially? Dunno!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Am loving the current track very very very much...But yes i feel its high time the CV 's let maan know of geets past. Regarding maans past since am not sure wat it is i'll let that be, but s that too should come out soon as geet is falling for maan too....

I want geets past out coz i don want any1 to point fingers on geet that she trapped maan for her baby...

But i would like to add that wat the CV's r showing is also justified... Geet has no obligation as of now to tell maan bout her past..... He is just her x-boss n a person who has helped her n been sympathetic (s am using this word only, no matter wat others say he has been sym to her in his own sweet msk way) to her..He is not even her friend (atleast that is wat the geet thinks). So she has no moral obligations....

Regarding geets new found pssion for maan, Geet has not yet comprehended wat her feelings for maan r.. This is very much new to her n is at the very initial stage.

Technically the checking out Maans torso happens on the second day of geets realization of her underlying undefined n sudden (for her) feelings for maan...She has not yet come out of that initial shock at the discovery of this new found passion... She is acting exactly as maan was on the day after that hot n passionhug...

Once she settles down n gets used to her new found passion for maan along with the discovery of her raging harmones, am sure she'll distance herself n might end up telling her story.

I think after the jhumka phehenana act by Maan geet will smell the coffee that something is really wrong with her. How can she allow some other man to touch her..*mind it ppl i am very happy with all the touchy touchy, feely feely track. here am just putting wat geet might think, plz don get me wrong n bash me*

Personally i want Maan n dadi ti know of her past b4 the big confrontation. I want geet to confide in them..

Also the romance they r now showing will ensure that Maan's luv deepens with every shared moment of closeness with Geet making it harder for both of them to resist each other latter.... These moments are bringing them closer and making Maaneet realize how special both of them are for each other, how they r madly in love n just can't stay apart... Latter when they r seperated they will cherish n miss all those intimate moments they shared. It will be the memories of these stolen intimacies that will lead them to conclude that they just cannot live without each other n will act as a bridge for their relationship being back on track..

Edited by swatichowdhury - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: rushtrip

now this is so thought provoking...a different route...

as Ash said..the battle between Man and Woman will remain till time does...
Being male dominated world, it runs by their rules...but the difference starts right from our physiognomy.. man has outward appendage that helps him procreate while a woman takes it all in...

she is made to take things deeply and yes she is stronger( mentally) more tolerant and more understanding.
Men forget that the one who brought him to the world can easily take charge of him, it is women who have let man rule not because men are stronger or more powerful but women know what reality is...is the saying not sufficient enough that behind every successful man there is a woman and also...there is the story of Trojan Horse and Troy is it not...


so yeah..this fight for ultimate power will be fought as long as time lasts..



The rules of justice are so different for men and women! A "fallen" woman, whereas a "man" is just sowing his oats! So, yeah! though the woman is revered and respected, the minute she does not match up to some so-called scale or bar, they will throw her to the dogs!

This power struggle is not for supremacy but for strength. And I believe strength lies in adversity, so that is why all the adversity/adverse situations are staked against the woman
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Also another thing I was wondering will Naintara use this occassion to destroy Maan as well along with Geet to make her dream come true of bringing the Khurana Empire's wealth & money in her name? I mean she will defintiely try to throw Geet out of all their lives & in the meanwhile seeing how Maan will be affected by that she will try to get rid of Maan as well? And in this process maybe Maan's past will also be out. Why do I get a feeling that NT has some role to play as far as Sameera is concerned!! I don't know simply speculating here.
But as I said I will waiting to see Maan's reaction towards Geet after the truth is exposed.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: swatichowdhury

Am loving the current track very very very much...But yes i feel its high time the CV 's let maan know of geets past. Regarding maans past since am not sure wat it is i'll let that be, but s that too should come out soon as geet is falling for maan too....

I want geets past out coz i don want any1 to point fingers on geet that she trapped maan for her baby...

But i would like to add that wat the CV's r showing is also justified... Geet has no obligation as of now to tell maan bout her past..... He is just her x-boss n a person who has helped her n been sympathetic (s am using this word only, no matter wat others say he has been sym to her in his own sweet msk way) to her..He is not even her friend (atleast that is wat the geet thinks). So she has no moral obligations....

Regarding geets new found pssion for maan, Geet has not yet comprehended wat her feelings for maan r.. This is very much new to her n is at the very initial stage.

Technically the checking out Maans torso happens on the second day of geets realization of her underlying undefined n sudden (for her) feelings for maan...She has not yet come out of that initial shock at the discovery of this new found passion... She is acting exactly as maan was on the day after that hot n passionhug...

Once she settles down n gets used to her new found passion for maan along with the discovery of her raging harmones, am sure she'll distance herself n might end up telling her story.

I think after the jhumka phehenana act by Maan geet will smell the coffee that something is really wrong with her. How can she allow some other man to touch her..*mind it ppl i am very happy with all the touchy touchy, feely feely track. here am just putting wat geet might think, plz don get me wrong n bash me*

Personally i want Maan n dadi ti know of her past b4 the big confrontation. I want geet to confide in them..



You are right on that score about moral obligations at this point of time...but still does it make sense to prolong her agony any further? Yesh, a few more of these romantic interludes and MAAN will certainly dovetail her and think she was calculating and manipulative in not clearing the air before when he was not completely under her spell.

This I say because, no matter what happens to him internally or externally, he ALWAYS had initially blamed Geet, be it for his emotions, be it for his pagalpan. So why we would he act any different when the pregnancy track is revealed?


Edited by bDgT - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: lghosh

Also another thing I was wondering will Naintara use this occassion to destroy Maan as well along with Geet to make her dream come true of bringing the Khurana Empire's wealth & money in her name? I mean she will defintiely try to throw Geet out of all their lives & in the meanwhile seeing how Maan will be affected by that she will try to get rid of Maan as well? And in this process maybe Maan's past will also be out. Why do I get a feeling that NT has some role to play as far as Sameera is concerned!! I don't know simply speculating here.

But as I said I will waiting to see Maan's reaction towards Geet after the truth is exposed.



Lana, I was talking about the same thing in another thread.... For NT it will be like Ek teer, do nishane. Even I feel that NT had a part in the Sameera fiasco and maybe thats the reason for their dislike of each other..... Two wounded souls, bound together by fate - it might not be difficult for NT to try destroying them as each is bound to the other..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: bDgT



You are right on that score about moral obligations at this point of time...but still does it make sense to prolong her agony any further? Yesh, a few more of these romantic interludes and MAAN will certainly dovetail her and think she was calculating and manipulative in not clearing the air before when he was not completely under her spell.

This I say because, no matter what happens to him internally or externally, he ALWAYS had initially blamed Geet, be it for his emotions, be it for his pagalpan. So why we would he act any different when the pregnancy track is revealed?




@blue - Bridge, maybe all these confrontations they have had these past few days, their realization will make him take a different stand?? Somehow I am thinking that Maan will try to put two and two together to come to a conclusion before blaming Geet. Maybe the prolonging of this track is to make Maan get a grip on his feelings for Geet so that he wont go ballistic when the truth comes out. I hope its just not wishful thinking on my part.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: bDgT



You are right on that score about moral obligations at this point of time...but still does it make sense to prolong her agony any further? Yesh, a few more of these romantic interludes and MAAN will certainly dovetail her and think she was calculating and manipulative in not clearing the air before when he was not completely under her spell.

This I say because, no matter what happens to him internally or externally, he ALWAYS had initially blamed Geet, be it for his emotions, be it for his pagalpan. So why we would he act any different when the pregnancy track is revealed?


Very true, Maan at the begining will misunderstand geet, but will latter help her get justice..
This is wat always happens.... He had his doubt regarding how dev managed to clear all his debts is such a short while. Also in an article i read Dadi will standby geet n might even help her get justice.. Remember she telling that in the midst of a prob, Maan will face it head-on n deal with it whereas dev will try to find the shortest way out of the prob... This show that She understands her grandsons very well, she has no myths bout them as of now.. I feel dadi will be the strongest force that will unite Maneet. Thats y they r showing her play cupid now only...Also Dev's mum pummy might also come to geets rescue, she is dying out of guilt.
NT might use this oppurtunity to get rid of Maan along with geet *ek teer se do shikar* to fulfill her ambitions... Or she might become a cupid herself so that dev is distanced from geet. she already knows that dev has a soft corner for geet. So marry Maneet, since dev will not have the courage to eye his elder brother, Maan's wife... Dev is very much scared of maan.
Edited by swatichowdhury - 15 years ago

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