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Posted: 7 years ago
@simran fear comes from lack of trust. She doesnt trust BD because of the reason you mentioned. BD still doesnt know the extend of cunningness of Sudha. His ego blinds him and Sudha uses her feminity to exploit that. Satrupa's aggressiveness wont solve that issue, only her feminity can solve it. But Satrupa doesnt understand it.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: usharanganathan

Redemption for Anami will be necessary if her actions bring harm to Royal steel and Sudha gets advantage over Satrupa .Sudha is evil. Anami's actions now are bound to help Sudha. She has already murdered two and tried to murder Laddoo too.


The difference between Anami and Satrupa is that she does not harm knowingly. She brought Sudha because she was deceived. Anami's fault is that she thinks she knows too much, she is a better judge of character and she does not listen to advice. But she does change her view of Sudha. That blind trust in Sudha has gone. Anami is also the kind that will build a free school and clinic for RS workers without conditions. She does not need redemption, she just needs to grow up and lose a few bad traits.

Satrupa though is the kind to exploit any good deed for her own use. She dunked Poonam's hand in hot tea. She hid Ladoo in RS. Who knows what else she has done in RS ? What if a worker opposes her. There was once a discussion between Vikram, Dhiru, Satrupa about strike. Satrupa was all for letting the strike go on and when the workers starve they will come to their senses. Dhiru opposed it and Vikram sided with him. Satrupa is no angel towards RS workers. She just uses anything and everything for her advantage. For power. That needs redemption.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Lots of thoughts. Don't feel like typing. 😛
Good episode though.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@simran fear comes from lack of trust. She doesnt trust BD because of the reason you mentioned. BD still doesnt know the extend of cunningness of Sudha. His ego blinds him and Sudha uses her feminity to exploit that. Satrupa's aggressiveness wont solve that issue, only her feminity can solve it. But Satrupa doesnt understand it.

main prob wid sat is she wants 2 own everything using her power & money. she wants every1 2 luv her or like her.and she wants is w/o doing anything 4them.she just want 2 give them materialistic things 2 compensate luv ,care etc.
and shes a thankless prsn.she thinks she has rites just bcoz she has blood relation wid anami & bcoz shes legal wife of BD.but she doesnt want 2 do anything 4 them.no care bat their feelings.

i agree wid mango that theres no excuse of she lost her 3 kids or sudha is soutan so her fear is rite. i cant justify her.
like sum1 said she has no compassion or empathy 4 oders & she cant see oders pain.and i think its her nature from the start i.e bfr her mrg bcoz she also belongs 2 rich family thatswhy damo cud cum wid her as dowry.and in olden times & in ancient times also maids used 2 cum wid brides as dowry .sat's nature got more encouraged due 2 her hold on LM & RS

now i hav lost sympathy 4 her al2gether & totally. i now hate her. she tried 2 ruin a young boy's career & reputation 2 satisfy her ego by blaming him falsely.and even if shes doing it 4 luv of anami shes wrong.so i wont b sympathetic 2 her if she gets punished 4 the crime she hadnt done/its all Karma.wat goes around cums around wid dbl amt. i want 2 see sat the downfall an di m sure she"ll fall down v.hard
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Mangothyme


The difference between Anami and Satrupa is that she does not harm knowingly. She brought Sudha because she was deceived. Anami's fault is that she thinks she knows too much, she is a better judge of character and she does not listen to advice. But she does change her view of Sudha. That blind trust in Sudha has gone. Anami is also the kind that will build a free school and clinic for RS workers without conditions. She does not need redemption, she just needs to grow up and lose a few bad traits.

Satrupa though is the kind to exploit any good deed for her own use. She dunked Poonam's hand in hot tea. She hid Ladoo in RS. Who knows what else she has done in RS ? What if a worker opposes her. There was once a discussion between Vikram, Dhiru, Satrupa about strike. Satrupa was all for letting the strike go on and when the workers starve they will come to their senses. Dhiru opposed it and Vikram sided with him. Satrupa is no angel towards RS workers. She just uses anything and everything for her advantage. For power. That needs redemption.

i agree anami just needs more experience n needs to grow up. she is not at all like satrupa. she will put herself at stake for the benefit of others. She will not forget someones good deed to her.
Satrupa is exactly opposite how conveniently Satrupa has forgotten that her daughter is alive today because of Adhiraj. She would have been long back killed by the kidnapper in her college if Adhiraj had not saved her. And here inspite of knowing the truth Satrupa is hell bent upon destroying adhis life. She cannot take anyone standing up against her even if she is wrong. She behaves like a spoilt brat with no sense of maturity.
we say anami is impulsive, but that she is when someone tries to harm her or she sees someone harming someone. but satrupa becomes impulsive when things dont go her way without handling it maturely. seeing her right now i wonder how she has handled royal steel like this
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Posted: 7 years ago

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i agree anami just needs more experience n needs to grow up. she is not at all like satrupa. she will put herself at stake for the benefit of others. She will not forget someones good deed to her.
Satrupa is exactly opposite how conveniently Satrupa has forgotten that her daughter is alive today because of Adhiraj. She would have been long back killed by the kidnapper in her college if Adhiraj had not saved her. And here inspite of knowing the truth Satrupa is hell bent upon destroying adhis life. She cannot take anyone standing up against her even if she is wrong. She behaves like a spoilt brat with no sense of maturity.
we say anami is impulsive, but that she is when someone tries to harm her or she sees someone harming someone. but satrupa becomes impulsive when things dont go her way without handling it maturely. seeing her right now i wonder how she has handled royal steel like this


Agree. Anami's recklessness is due to age and impulsiveness, not because of selfishness. Satrupa is selfish. She also messed up RS. Vikram scolds her when the takeover attempt is made.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

26/1/2018

What a fanastic way to show the relation of Baldev and Satrupa. Just like the broken bangles that were found on Baldev's bed and the kankan that fell on Satrupa's dressing table, their relation was marred with Satrupa's suspicion. Satrupa's inability to understand her husband. Inability to forgive him for the mistake that happened.Yes Dheeru told Sudha trapped Baldev who was a playboy at those times. Just like he was unconscious today when Sudha took him, maybe the relation with Sudha also happened in drunken state.

But Vikku didnt forgive him,made it look like he did it purposefully by disinheriting him. Satrupa also didnt trust him today when he told he was unconscious. He gained conscious when she came but we all know Baldev didnt entertain Sudha consciously. When Satrupa came he thanked her for being there when he felt unconscious. I would say if not agreeing to take case against Adhiraj was one mistake, Satrupa made the another critical mistake of accusing Baldev today. When she stood up against Vikku she had her husband with her. Baldev's hatred for Dheeru outweighed any other consideration and he took side with his wife. But Satrupa has kind of threw away that support. But in a way that is needed. LM wasis take side based on their selfish needs. I have to applaud dialogue writers for giving such a frank dialogue and questions in this show.
The question that Satrupa asked Vikku was so true.We all know Vikku came to argument only when RS was mentioned and if there was no RS and Dheeru didnt hold those 50% shares Vikku would have stood with Sat. The decision taken today was by a woman called Satrupa. Not the bahu, not the wife, not the mother. It was her decision, good or bad of it she will have to bear.

Another side we see Pandey family. This family has bond. Tanya cools her father and Dheeru asks Adhiraj to stay away from Anami. I would say well said. It is time the princess came on earth. It is time the princess realized how her actions affect others. And as expected she comes. Their relation is that of trust. She came for the man who has kept everything at stake for her. And she will give the proof why it was his right decision to put her stake on her. Before sunset the next day, the case will have to be taken back. She is going to challenge the power of LM, we dont know how, but mostly using her brother Vatsalya. But this step will have its own repucurssions as the battle might turn, but the power wont go as it will demand some more sacrifices.


Anami using the word "before sunset" reminds me of arjun vowing to kill Jaydrath before sunset. Do u think it is going to be the illusion moment.😕
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@simran fear comes from lack of trust. She doesnt trust BD because of the reason you mentioned. BD still doesnt know the extend of cunningness of Sudha. His ego blinds him and Sudha uses her feminity to exploit that. Satrupa's aggressiveness wont solve that issue, only her feminity can solve it. But Satrupa doesnt understand it.


One aspect I love about Satrupa is that she is not the traditional female role, the one who shows love with cooking, taking care like Panditayen. She is very feminine in her dress, but she is more at home in the boardroom than kitchen. She is aggressive, power hungry, she is very smart, educated and does not play dumb to fit into a man's world. She is unapologetic about who she is. Her mistake I think is she did not put in the effort with Baldev to build a relationship. They came together for heirs, duty done, moved on.

Satrupa was a good mom to Vatsalya, is a very good bahu, I mean she kills for her kid and LM family. But she never bonded with Baldev. Perhaps she tried when she was young, but was rebuffed ? Who knows. But if she had been a Gayathri who is very similar in that she dresses to enhance her feminity, but is more at ease with power and in the boardroom than kitchen she would have had Baldev's loyalty and love. But Gayathri cultivated a relationship with Vikram and so did Kamini with Pujan. They are a team. Satrupa is all alone.
Edited by Mangothyme - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
Satrupa was absolutely right in questioning Vikram's intentions. It was obvious yesterday that Vikram was only intercepting because Dheeru reminded everyone that he held 50% of the shares in RS still. Vikram doesn't give a rat's ass about Adhiraj other than the fact that this case could affect RS.

Somewhere though I feel that Dheeru is smarter than that. This is the same man who said he wouldn't bring innocent people into his fight with LM when he was questioned as to why he didn't just RS sink. Would he stoop to the level of using RS and these innocent people in his fight now? I doubt it. It's anger. Once he calms down with the help of his kids, he'll refuse to take any action that will hurt innocent people.

What I liked today was that Anami went to Adhiraj. So far we've seen Adhiraj go to Anami whenever he's in pain or she's in pain. Today, for the first time, Anami went to Adhiraj to share his pain but also to promise him that the sunrise would bring a new day both figuratively and literally.

I agree with you Shruthi. She's going to use Vatsalya in the process, but this will come back to bite her in the future. Just like when she wanted to fulfill Vatsalya's dream and it came back to bite her to choose between 2 brothers. This will lead to something similar.

Once again though...RKC is BACK!!!!
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Posted: 7 years ago
"Float like a butterfly, sting like Bee" - Mohammad Ali

One of the things that is clear is Anami is growing up. She is not rushing blindly and screaming at Satrupa. She is angry for Daroga, guilty, sad but she is also almost icy cold in her determination to see the big picture. The downfall of Satrupa. She is busy determining how to win the battle and the war. Panditayen is wrong, there is always a price to pay and the price is Anami's innocence. This is not the ghats of Benaras. This is the boardroom of LM. You need to be like that to survive. You should know when to be sweet, when to be silent and when and where to sting.

In contrast, Satrupa who was this icy and cold and smart while making decisions (watch the scene where she sits on a boat in Benaras and says "Visranjan Kardo" when she wants Vatsalya potential assassins to be drowned) has disappeared That Satrupa is gone replaced by stupid and impulsive Satrupa who is on a hair trigger. She accuses Baldev who was unconscious of not finding a servant to look after him. Should he be mindful of her when he is unconscious ? When he is just recovering himself ? It's all me, me, me. Matlabi, Matlabi, Matlabi. Will Baldev like Sudha or Satrupa after this ? Satrupa will drive Baldev into Sudha's arms with this attitude like she has driven Anami into Daroga's arms. Dheeru will absolutely use Anami and if Pujan comes with a proposal for Tanya, well say goodbye to RS, Vikram Singh family.

I am glad Dhiru is back. If Satrupa needs to fall, she needs an opponent that is strong and powerful like her. She will eat Daroga for a snack and Anami is still a child. But Dhiru whom ironically she put in a position of power is the opponent now. A Karna needs an Arjuna, a Duryodhana a Bhima. Give an opponent that is worthy to play the game. Dhiru vs Satrupa will be interesting to watch.
Edited by Mangothyme - 7 years ago

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