ArHi FF:6:The BEASTS and the BLEEDING ROSES Ch 175 - Page 102

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: A_Soul


Hoopoe: I read your post over 'West - East, North-South' Chinese mythology... Some what I agree with your choice of picking west n east, but only question my is why not North & south.. I try to google about north but didn't find answer of either why not or why it should consider. (Search for south is pending yet).For Gen your choice is perfect too, it just by look (especially wings) of animal represent 'South' suits him more.

A beautiful "Reaction post", as usual dear. 👍🏼Enjoyed reading them. The song selection is nice, the wordings are so apt for the situation. 👏 But still I expected some very intense and painful song from you... something magical like "Rang Rasiya" for the ball night chapter. You know, im greedy... 😳
@ your query above... actually I was searching the same. Why marriage at north temple, why not south temple? (Silly?... I know😉 😆) I started my quest for finding the symbolic meaning of the directions, but ended up in finding out the beasts ruling those directions. Let me post the points I gathered for the directions and you decide for yourself which direction suits these two the best. 😊
Courtesy: Google. 😉 😳

We could say there are different energetic personalities expressed in each of the four directions.

East:

Symbolic meaning: Beginnings, Awakening, Ascension, Vision, Spiritual wisdom

Biblical meaning: After sin, it was the direction of the exile, it represented a condition of alienation from God. It was also the place of the wilderness, from which destructive winds came, threatening life (Ps. 48:7; Eze. 27:26).

West:


Symbolic meaning: Conclusions, Stability, Goals, Foundations, Physical wisdom

Biblical meaning:In fact, the term "sea" often referred to the west (Num. 3:23). It is a symbol of divine blessing. Once the exiles were liberated from their enemies in the east, they traveled west, to the land of Israel. In that journey, the Lord Himself traveled with them (Eze. 43:2-5).

North:


Symbolic meaning: Illumination, Discovery, Logic, Understanding, Mental wisdom

Biblical meaning: the north is a symbol of the permanent or the eternal, perhaps because the polar stars were permanently visible in the sky. It is the place of God's celestial dwelling (Isa. 14:13)

South:


Symbolic meaning: Empathy, Trust, Faith, Inclusion, Love, Emotional wisdom

Biblical meaning: The south is primarily a negative symbol. But the fact that it is represented by the right hand makes it also a positive one. It is negative because to the south of Israel was the wilderness, a region where life does not prosper (Isa. 30:6).

If I go by the above information, I can only find the east-west appropriate for the beasts and north-south appropriate for the reason behind choosing the "north temple" for Lord-Khushi marriage, while cleverly getting rid off the General to "south".
Edited by hoopoe - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: maverickmartin


I think I'm biologically correct. Yes, they are known to breathe fire, but they are known to be serpent-like, but with legs, reptiles!

I see Wikipedia tell me that the "European dragon" is related to Greek mythology, and there is also the "Chinese dragon". European dragons could have an armoured hide. And an armour is required for battle. Also, the Chinese dragon signifies a high rank. I think you're right about General transforming into a dragon. All clues point to that!

Umm!! hello! :)
can i add something here?
if you wanna know what the creature actually is or looks like... rewind the chaps back to where there is a mention of Khushi lost in one of the halls castle where there were paintings put up... she even pauses at a serpent's pic wondering at the possibility!
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: LeenaRocks

Umm!! hello! :)
can i add something here?
if you wanna know what the creature actually is or looks like... rewind the chaps back to where there is a mention of Khushi lost in one of the halls castle where there were paintings put up... she even pauses at a serpent's pic wondering at the possibility!

Rabba ve Leena...
Are you mentioning the Adam-Eve-Satan painting at the Raizada gallery? But that conveys a different message and is for a completely different purpose... 😉
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: hoopoe

Rabba ve Leena...
Are you mentioning the Adam-Eve-Satan painting at the Raizada gallery? But that conveys a different message and is for a completely different purpose... 😉



True that, hoopoe... But if you want to put just that portion of the painting in this perspective, it does actually work!!
The Serpent is entwined around the Man, as if it was another being, but innately joined to the man - two forms, together. Two sides of the same page.

Thanks, Leena, you got me thinking! 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago

Readers/ Comrades... Presenting the "Azure Dragon of the East"... 😛

(Don't scold me if this prediction goes wrong) 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
Rabba ve guys...🤗

@RITU-- thank you dear for liking my post.. your words means alot..☺️

@Hp-- what to say to you dearest.. BRILLIANT DECODING ..i esp loved your answer to souly's query..


If I go by the above information, I can only find the east-west appropriate for the beasts and north-south appropriate for the reason behind choosing the "north temple" for Lord-Khushi marriage, while cleverly getting rid off the General to "south".

👍🏼..👏👏👏

and thank you for clearing my own doubts. will reply to it in a while..


@Mav-- lolz dear, it didn't occur to me that the serpentine theory could be extended to ''cold-blooded'' n ''warm-blooded'' animals...😆..but i loved it. i dont know about dragons being cold blooded..but you are absolutely right that they have been classified into serpents of a kind.

@Leena-- brilliant point dear.. i was also thinking the same.. the way the serpent is entangled over the Gen.. just looking at it separately it could indicate ''his cursed form''.. but i agree with hp about the whole meaning of the painting..

btw,am loving this you all.👏.. wonder what linny has to say about it.. but something tells me she'll just ignore the whole discussion.. n even that is ok as long as i get another update..😛





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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: maverickmartin



True that, hoopoe... But if you want to put just that portion of the painting in this perspective, it does actually work!!
The Serpent is entwined around the Man, as if it was another being, but innately joined to the man - two forms, together. Two sides of the same page.

Thanks, Leena, you got me thinking! 😆

Well i usually dont dissect a scenario so deep and well like you guys do... but i certainly knew there was something to do with the serpent stuff entwined with man... and esp coz Khushi takes interest in the pic!
also hoope you are right it(Arnav) certainly is not dragon... if you give it more thought to the chap of Arnav's MU and transformation ..it clearly says he kept running and soon he was on 4 limbs on the ground and climbed up the tree!
whereas i will not rule out the possibility of Shyam being a creature like a dragon of sorts... as the chapters of his transformation has him flying!
makes sense?
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: hoopoe

Readers/ Comrades... Presenting the "Azure Dragon of the East"... 😛

(Don't scold me if this prediction goes wrong) 😆




i love it !!!👏

hey hp, they are called ''azure dragons'' eh?? so does that mean there are available in one colour..BLUE??😆..coz somehow i always imagined him to be black or dark green..😆😆




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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: shass




i love it !!!👏

hey hp, they are called ''azure dragons'' eh?? so does that mean there are available in one colour..BLUE??😆..coz somehow i always imagined him to be black or dark green..😆😆




Yes shass... the mythological beast is Azure - purplish blue in colour. Im just going by the Chinese mythological description... Don't know if Lin will add any of her personal touch to these beasts!!!... 😕 Anything is possible in Arhasia... 😉 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: hoopoe

Rabba ve Shass, I cant reply to your post in a single comment, so will give it in parts.

@ the first half of your post... Whether Lordy could be a dragon? Can they both be two different forms of the same beast?
I dont think so dear. From the beginning of the tale, we were hinted about their poles apart nature. If one is "shadow", the other is "lightning". If one's forte is "flying", the other's "chasing", if one rules the "sky", the other "earth"... Both are like "king of beasts"... but in their own territory. I'll post here my earlier comment where I summed up all the given hints about Lordy's transformation. Have a glance and tell me what you think...

@Underlined-- i always thought of ''shadow n lightning'' theory in the light of their natures.. but now that you have mentioned it, am thinking that it also fits the curses in a way... 😳
To me all these hints point towards the possibility of tiger. Also. Lin has answered to Mav's query at the cottage that Lordy doesn't fly during his transformation.
From the beginning I suspected Lordy's beast to be a tiger and that's how I concluded that General can be a dragon since both are just the opposite qualities (representing west and east) in Chinese mythology. So I strongly feel that both are different kind of beasts... sort of "rivals" even in their transformed form.

thanx hp for clearing my doubts n also by sharing the various excerpts... 😊..the qualities we see here can be applicable on many beasts..even dragons thats why i had doubts in the first place..
P.S. Will add points on the latter half of your post after some time.






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