General Complaints/Inquires/Requests Thread - Page 32

Originally posted by: Krani

So what Gargee has done is an adaptation - except she didn't reference it, which is obviously wrong.

Even I am confused about the "same sequence of events" which is why I wanted a clarification.

Okay, so technically according to india-forums, adaptation is wrong, but inspiration is fine, and the two definitions of each have been stated above in my previous post. Just confirming so I don't get things confused again, and then we can draw a line between what will be considered plagiarised on IF and what will be not

Originally posted by: AngelTeen

According to me, Gargee did two things wrong -

A. No acknowledgement of original author. She should have been acknowledged regardless of this being an adaptation or an inspiration.

B. Almost identical chapters in terms of language used. You may use the same scene etc but using the exact same language seems problematic to me except if that too is recognised explicitly as someone else's.

Originally posted by: Krani

I would like to clarify on the bold.

Speaking on the other side of the argument is not us defending what Gargee has done. I think it has been established that the way it was done (not giving credit and copying the chapter) was wrong. I think the reason this is being discussed is because these are questions that have been plaguing everybody's minds.

I think the reason it's coming out is because we all know Gargee as a writer and have followed her stories in the past, hence a bit of trust is established in terms of her and the other readers. Of course, I agree that should not blind the people passing off the judgment and the same rules should apply to her, but these are the possible reasons why it's being discussed.

I understand your frustration Lazy as what has been done is unfair especially after the rules you have pointed out and the general points you have raised in your posts. We do support you, but the DT also needs to clarify a lot of things because a general confusion has always surrounded inspiration versus plagiarism :)

~K

Originally posted by: AngelTeen

What else is adaptation then man?! Any adaptation takes the story and puts it in s context with it being the adaptation author's prerogative if he/she wants to add something new or not. Honestly this being a FF forum I don't see issues with adaptations if they are referenced.

For instance, Omkara is an adaptation of Othello in the Indian context. It takes the SAME story and changes contexts and takes the SAME CHARACTERS and suits them to this new context.

And honestly what does the "same sequence of events" even mean?! You can keep the sequence same, you can change it. Aslong as you have acknowledged its an adaptation which may or not be following the exact storyline of the original in any particular context you have set it in, it shouldn't matter.

Originally posted by: Angel-Jot.

Okay so.. I'm going to be inactive starting today so I thought I'd drop a quick comment to clarify a few things before I leave for three weeks.

I went through the fan fiction thread and noticed the warning by Saraa. That note was posted by the IPK DT back when the thread was at that forum. Clearly, they have different rules. But now that the thread is here, we can take action based on OUR rules, no matter what the IPK DT had decided previously. The FF DT was in no way involved in the decision that was taken.

After reading through the pages here, i've realized there's a lot of confusion about inspiration vs plagiarism. If I were to take a scene from IPK, like the scene where Arnav sees Khushi and Shyam hugging, and wrote something out to that effect..that would be plagiarism because you've taken the essence/concept of the scene. However, if you were take an idea of a character.. For example, a cruel husband and a submissive wife.. That's inspiration and the original author who came up with it should be credited. The previous scenario of a scene would need permission from an author. But if you're using a particular holiday, an event, a name or something like that... that can be creditted. Hopefully I make sense.

Unfortunately, I can't take action so you'll have to PM GMs or admin mentioned in the absence note I posted of Radha and I. Please have the GMs/admins refer to the Severe Penalty for plagiarism thread.

See you all soon.

Radha & I.

Originally posted by: lazyleaves

So that means is it okay if I am writing an adaptation on P&P and make Arnav and Khushi meet at a party, make them exchange the same words, in the same place, and then make them meet again the same way that E and F met in P&P and then use the same sequence of A confessing to K and then K rejecting him, then K's sister running away, blah blah blah then the mutually confessing with the same dialogues and then I put a note that it is an adaptation of P&P?


yeah chalega?

Originally posted by: AngelTeen

Gurinder Chadda might back me in saying its an adaptation.