General Complaints/Inquires/Requests Thread - Page 28

Originally posted by: AngelTeen

The viewbie note on Gargee's story says that adaptations are okay but with acknowledgement of course so I think you are okay there.

And yes, Gargee didn't give any acknowledgement prior to the rap on the knuckles (not even talking about copying the chapters right now) and thats wrong - intentional or unintentional.

Semanti an adaptation can only be done with permission of the author. Most movies that are adapted from a book, are done so after reaching a commercial agreement with the author and the publishing house.

I'd like to use Krani's Parineeta here as an example. I think I have read one chapter of the story. Unlike the actual book, Krani's story has a different set of events, from the actual book. So the premise/destination of her inspired story is the same, but the route to reach it is different from the original story which was later adapted as a movie..

The question here is did Gargee, rewrite every single word when she began writing her version of the story- the answer is no. So I dont think you can classify it as inspiration.

Adapation? YES. But does she have the necessary permission to do so.

Originally posted by: Krani

Yup, the viewbie note states that however Jot had clearly stated in the last thread of general complaints that adaptations were not allowed.

I think this stuff needs to be cleared out...

But regardless, appropriate credit needs to be given.

Purely from a legal perspective, adaptations can only be carried out after reaching an agreement with the original author. So i think JOt is right in saying that adaptations are not permissable.

This whole thing reminds me of Madonna using one of Abba's musical piece in the beginning of 'Hung Up.' Although she used only a small piece of Abba's music and thereafter the rest of the musical composition is hers, yet she needed to get the permission of Abba and the label that had rights to Abba's music.

Originally posted by: Naach_Basanti

Semanti an adaptation can only be done with permission of the author. Most movies that are adapted from a book, are done so after reaching a commercial agreement with the author and the publishing house.

I'd like to use Krani's Parineeta here as an example. I think I have read one chapter of the story. Unlike the actual book, Krani's story has a different set of events, from the actual book. So the premise/destination of her inspired story is the same, but the route to reach it is different from the original story which was later adapted as a movie..

The question here is did Gargee, rewrite every single word when she began writing her version of the story- the answer is no. So I dont think you can classify it as inspiration.

Adapation? YES. But does she have the necessary permission to do so.

That really does open a can of worms doesn't it. I have been doing some research on the internet, yet cannot find anything that is remotely constructive and clear. I think fan fiction get the clear simply because they use the same characters, but the settings are different and some other times the plots are different. So the fan fic writers's creativity and thought process is used to add something to the story. For what its worth I dont think Gargee meant this intentionally, its simply because of lack of clear information on what constitutes as plagiarism.

Who else thinks its time to come up with a set of codes on what constitutes as plagiarism?

What my issue is with this case is the issue of bias! Why a different set of 'punishment' for her and a completely different one for others?



@Semanti: We are heavily inspired from IPK. But do you find any FF which relates the same sequence of events of the show? No. If it were the case why would any of us read it? Authors get inspired by scenes or dialogues and then they spin a story around it which is completely different! What she did was she merely edited the chapters of the original work. Now that is not 'writing', is it?


I will give you an example of how strict the DTs have been. Someone had plagiarised a few scenes from Maya's (Inked) -khushi- one of them was that Khushi lifted her saree up to her knees and ran! Now that is typical Maya's style of writing! That member was abused on the thread with the choicest of the slang!


I am not saying that Gargee should be verbally abused. No! What I don't understand is that why are we having this debate now? Just because she is a famous author? Because she has written something original in the past and she has the right to be 'inspired' now?


Why should she get a chance to explain herself when others were not given a similar chance? And if she is given this chance will a similar favour be forwarded to a lesser known writer or a newbie?


And the viewbie note clearly said its a case of plagiarism so why appropriate actions were not taken?

Being inspired from books and movies would mean picking up a theme and not the plot. If I want to write an FF on Barjatia's Hum Saath Saath Hai, I cannot take the same sequence of events but I can keep the characters same and the background theme of family unity. But I cannot use the SAME sequence of events

Originally posted by: lazyleaves

What my issue is with this case is the issue of bias! Why a different set of 'punishment' for her and a completely different one for others?



@Semanti: We are heavily inspired from IPK. But do you find any FF which relates the same sequence of events of the show? No. If it were the case why would any of us read it? Authors get inspired by scenes or dialogues and then they spin a story around it which is completely different! What she did was she merely edited the chapters of the original work. Now that is not 'writing', is it?


I will give you an example of how strict the DTs have been. Someone had plagiarised a few scenes from Maya's (Inked) -khushi- one of them was that Khushi lifted her saree up to her knees and ran! Now that is typical Maya's style of writing! That member was abused on the thread with the choicest of the slang!


I am not saying that Gargee should be verbally abused. No! What I don't understand is that why are we having this debate now? Just because she is a famous author? Because she has written something original in the past and she has the right to be 'inspired' now?


Why should she get a chance to explain herself when others were not given a similar chance? And if she is given this chance will a similar favour be forwarded to a lesser known writer or a newbie?


And the viewbie note clearly said its a case of plagiarism so why appropriate actions were not taken?

@Rae: When I said 'rewrite it in her own words' I mean if she plans to give the story a completely different twist or turn or whatever then at least she should write the initial chapters in her style and not in Natasha Anders style!

And another thing that just clicked me now is that, that issue happened on the IPK forum as the IPK DT dealt with it. It may have happened that the IPK DT might not have been that familiar with the FF rules. Lets see what Jot has to say about it