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Posted: 19 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: ar$hi

to sochiya na, kis ne mana kiya hai...dimaag per zor daaliye zara😆

dimaag😕wo kya hota hai😕

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Posted: 19 years ago
#72
Qazi danced qouite well in boogie woogie 2
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: ticks

There is such a thing called evolution. What was liked and appreciated decades ago will not work in this day because greater singers such as Kishore Kumar, Mohd. Rafi and now Sonu Nigam raised the bar. The singers you mention will not be able to make it as big as they were in that era. The world keeps evolving and quality keeps getting better. A KL Saigal would not even get an audition with today's music directors. This is no different than when the first cars were made they were hugely popular. It doesn't mean that today's public would buy those cars. They are used to higher quality now.

I agree with CricFan about the quality of Quazi's singing. He can be called an entertainer (to me even that is a stretch), a singer -- most certainly not. He just doesn't get the same respect (and rightly so) as winners of other contests (II, SRGMP).

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: rolm

well if we r on the topic of evolution,these reality shows have also evolved from simple singing shows to the performing shows.SRGMP is not the same show tht it used to be.Sony taking the cue from the faliure of the old SRGMP singers started a show where performance is as important as singing and Zee taking a cue from the sucess of II and FG changed its show to a singing and performance show.

So if a contestant is a good performer he deserves the same respect as a good singer.If KL sehgal won't get an audition today(i am sure tht none of the music directors would agree to tht atleast publicly)then todays generation just wont go and watch a show where the singer is standing like a statue and singing.

Qazi's fans r not his fans because he is a singer,they r his fans because he is a singer and a performer and the best combination of both tht any reality show has produced this far.

If u don';t respect qazi its OK,there r his millions of fans worldwide who love and respect him.When you r a celebrity people love you and some hate you and the same is the case with qazi.

there r people who don't like SRK but then does tht matter to SRK or his fans in anyway,NO.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hi Ani,

It's always fun to debate you. I'm not sure I agree that people won't go watch singers who can't perform. I truly believe there is a niche market for various types of entertainers. I agree that there is a market for someone like Quazi who can entertain people just as there is a market for someone like Alka Yagnik, Udit Narayan, who won't come and dance but are great singers. That's not the argument here. It's self evident that someone like Quazi has fans who will come and watch him entertain. There is so much diversity in likes and dislikes now that many forms of art can flourish. However, it doesn't change the fact that performers like Quazi will always have to rely on others' songs to entertain. He won't be a successful singer and won't have too many songs to his credit. Let me give you an example, Sudesh Bhosle has made a living by singing Kishore Kumar, RD Burman, SD Burman songs. But since he doesn't have many songs to his credit his market is limited (again niche). Quazi will have the same problem in terms of expanding his fan base.

BTW, I was surprised to see that Quazi is going to the US and Canada for a show. I didn't think that such a thing would happen and I'm truly surprised that someone is taking such a financial risk. However, these promoters are not stupid, they must have done their homework and come to a conclusion that a concert featuring Quazi can be successful in US & Canada. I would have not imagined such a thing possible. It only goes to show that he is popular out west. I guess Sony & Zee have a good market in the US and thus these singers have had good exposure there.

So how are things in the good old USA these days? Tomorrow is your Independence Day..Any plans for the old fashioned BarBecue...American Style... with corn on the cob and watermellon to go along?

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Posted: 19 years ago
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well if we r on the topic of evolution,these reality shows have also evolved from simple singing shows to the performing shows.SRGMP is not the same show tht it used to be.Sony taking the cue from the faliure of the old SRGMP singers started a show where performance is as important as singing and Zee taking a cue from the sucess of II and FG changed its show to a singing and performance show.

So if a contestant is a good performer he deserves the same respect as a good singer.If KL sehgal won't get an audition today(i am sure tht none of the music directors would agree to tht atleast publicly)then todays generation just wont go and watch a show where the singer is standing like a statue and singing.

Qazi's fans r not his fans because he is a singer,they r his fans because he is a singer and a performer and the best combination of both tht any reality show has produced this far.

If u don';t respect qazi its OK,there r his millions of fans worldwide who love and respect him.When you r a celebrity people love you and some hate you and the same is the case with qazi.

there r people who don't like SRK but then does tht matter to SRK or his fans in anyway,NO.

It's not a matter of criticism. When you are in the public arena, you will always have critics. Why only SRK, there are many who don't like AB or Rani or even Sachin Tendulkar. You can't please everyone. And quite frankly, criticism is a good thing otherwise how will one grow? But what these great people have is a respect for their talent amongst their peers. I don't think Quazi has that. It was evident during FG. He was consistently singled out as least talented and most undeserving by his peers and faculty and even today he doesn't get the respect that an Abhijit Savant gets. These are facts. However, it doesn't take away from his popularity amongst his fans. He has the most rabid fans amongst all contest winners. So, he has a lot to thank his fans (like you) for.😊 If it wasn't for them...he'd be a nobody today.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: rolm

Hi Ani,

It's always fun to debate you. I'm not sure I agree that people won't go watch singers who can't perform. I truly believe there is a niche market for various types of entertainers. I agree that there is a market for someone like Quazi who can entertain people just as there is a market for someone like Alka Yagnik, Udit Narayan, who won't come and dance but are great singers. That's not the argument here. It's self evident that someone like Quazi has fans who will come and watch him entertain. There is so much diversity in likes and dislikes now that many forms of art can flourish. However, it doesn't change the fact that performers like Quazi will always have to rely on others' songs to entertain. He won't be a successful singer and won't have too many songs to his credit. Let me give you an example, Sudesh Bhosle has made a living by singing Kishore Kumar, RD Burman, SD Burman songs. But since he doesn't have many songs to his credit his market is limited (again niche). Quazi will have the same problem in terms of expanding his fan base.

BTW, I was surprised to see that Quazi is going to the US and Canada for a show. I didn't think that such a thing would happen and I'm truly surprised that someone is taking such a financial risk. However, these promoters are not stupid, they must have done their homework and come to a conclusion that a concert featuring Quazi can be successful in US & Canada. I would have not imagined such a thing possible. It only goes to show that he is popular out west. I guess Sony & Zee have a good market in the US and thus these singers have had good exposure there.

So how are things in the good old USA these days? Tomorrow is your Independence Day..Any plans for the old fashioned BarBecue...American Style... with corn on the cob and watermellon to go along?

hey Ro,its fun to debate with u too because u argue and do not abuse because if someone starts abusing then i have to stop ,i can't abuseand i just take the hint tht the person has run out of arguments😆

Coming to the point that qazi will always have to rely on others,well i think that all the singers are relying on the MDs for a hit.Do u think that chand sifarish and dus bahane was a hit because of Shaan,do u think it would'nt have been a hit if some one else had sung tht song.These singers give a hit because of the music and the catchy tunes of the songs ,tht is why some r hits and the others r not.Otherwise each and every song of sonu nigam should have been a hit.

Dependance is not a bad thing,we all depend on which other,the bad thing is to loose ur individuality .I am sure that yash raj fims need SRK as much as SRK needs them

U r right ,these promoters r not stupid,it is their job and they know it well,qazi is also doing shows in West indies.and qazi is not only popular in the west but in india as well,thts why he won,did'nt he😆

Tommorow is not my independence day,mine is on 15th aug but no special plans for tomm,we will just go and watch the fireworks.😊

so when r u visiting the US next😊

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: rolm

It's not a matter of criticism. When you are in the public arena, you will always have critics. Why only SRK, there are many who don't like AB or Rani or even Sachin Tendulkar. You can't please everyone. And quite frankly, criticism is a good thing otherwise how will one grow? But what these great people have is a respect for their talent amongst their peers. I don't think Quazi has that. It was evident during FG. He was consistently singled out as least talented and most undeserving by his peers and faculty and even today he doesn't get the respect that an Abhijit Savant gets. These are facts. However, it doesn't take away from his popularity amongst his fans. He has the most rabid fans amongst all contest winners. So, he has a lot to thank his fans (like you) for.😊 If it wasn't for them...he'd be a nobody today.

I agree with the criticism part but when u r criticised without malice then its good for u ,the way the judges of FG criticised qazi,it was for his good.

But i don't give a damn about respect from ur peers when they r competing with u for a title and a 1 crore contract.That is not criticising,tht is plain jealousy,tht criticism does not do anything gud for u ,it demoralises a person because the hatred is so much evident there.

As far as other reality show stars r concerned most of the people in the music industry don't have any regard for their singing,i hav read the lataji does'nt like SRGMP or II .

Qazi is a somebody because of his fans and so are the others ,what can u be in an enterainment business without fans,why qazi,even amitabh,SRK,Rani all survive because of their fan base.All of them would be a nobody if they did not have fans.In Bollywood it is the popularity tht sells.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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very very well said anidi.👏
i m really proud of u👏👏 😆
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: ani11

hey Ro,its fun to debate with u too because u argue and do not abuse because if someone starts abusing then i have to stop ,i can't abuseand i just take the hint tht the person has run out of arguments😆

Coming to the point that qazi will always have to rely on others,well i think that all the singers are relying on the MDs for a hit.Do u think that chand sifarish and dus bahane was a hit because of Shaan,do u think it would'nt have been a hit if some one else had sung tht song.These singers give a hit because of the music and the catchy tunes of the songs ,tht is why some r hits and the others r not.Otherwise each and every song of sonu nigam should have been a hit. (1)

Dependance is not a bad thing,we all depend on which other,the bad thing is to loose ur individuality .I am sure that yash raj fims need SRK as much as SRK needs them (2)

U r right ,these promoters r not stupid,it is their job and they know it well,qazi is also doing shows in West indies.and qazi is not only popular in the west but in india as well,thts why he won,did'nt he😆

Tommorow is not my independence day,mine is on 15th aug but no special plans for tomm,we will just go and watch the fireworks.😊

so when r u visiting the US next😊 (3)

(1) That's an apples and oranges comparison. Singing someone else's songs is very different from working with composers. Music is made by a team -- a team of lyricists, music composers, other technicians and the singers. This team delivers the final product. This cannot be compared to someone else singing their songs in concerts. If that was the case, why go listen to Lata Mangeshkar in concert? After all she didn't compose those songs but she rendered them beautifully.

(2) I tihnk Yash Raj films will do just fine even without SRK. SRK has a poster signed in Aditya Chopra's office. The poster is from DDLJ and it says "Thank You for making me the star that I am today". Stars are transient, productoin houses are institutions that last generations. Yash Raj films just made Fanaa without SRK and it did great. Tomorrow there will be other stars who will shine as brightly as SRK is shining today. This doesn't mean that SRK doesn't deserve credit for being a super star. Ofcourse he does. He worked hard and has talent. That's why he's the star he is. However, Yash Raj saw that talent, it harnessed it and became the medium that transformed him into a star.

(3) I'm sitting in Mallorca (a small island off the coast of Spain in the mediterranean sea). I'm just chilling out for a few days here. I was in Canada and Mexico just prior to this. Will be reaching India in a few days. As for US, no plans in the near future. I will be coming to the US next year in March on my way to the caribbean to see the Cricket World Cup. I plan to spend a month island hoping in the carib...so I have to work hard and save money for that trip (starting next week).

BTW, I have a question for you. I noticed that you have over 11K posts. I'm only in the 200's. How did you get that many? I don't think I've even sent that many emails in my entire life. You must be lightening fast on the keyboard.

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