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Posted: 10 years ago
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@ Divysan

I dont think you are getting the point I am trying to make! The fact remains that the way Baldev is currently acting towards Veera IS abusive. We may not want to accept it, but that is what it is!


He made her sleep on the porch on their wedding night. Then he has been yelling at her in front of his business associates and called her a useless wife in front of all of them, after spitting the food she made. He asked her to dance in a Dhaba in front of drunk men. Then he pretty much held her by the throat. Whatever the REASON he is doing this, the fact remains his behavior is violent, and putting Veera at risk.


You HONESTLY cannot equate putting color in Haldi, and giving peanuts to Baldev and Surjeet Singh getting a shock from a Mike with THIS? Those were pranks and would never have any long lasting effect. Frankly if those things make her criminal, then the many fights and many situations that Baldev has landed himself in makes him a criminal too.


I am not saying her acts are good, but it is not the same as SUSTAINED ill treatment of a person day in and out. Not just in private but publicly too.


I think you are too biased against Veera to see this situation for what it really is. So there is no point in me continuing to discuss this with you. I think we should just agree to disagree. But it disturbs me when someone is called a criminal when they give someone peanuts, or puts color in Haldi? That itself should tell me you hate Veera too much for us to have any rational discussion about her character. So, I rest my case!



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Posted: 10 years ago
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just because someone is not educated enough that doesnt mean the person is bad or egotistical, and a persons nature is not entirely dependent on ones nurture. thought baldev has he faults he has always been good at heart, he never held it against veera that she is an illegitimate child even thought his mother does. he was always helpful to all, and especially to veera.
baldev had never seen bad times, and had always been happy go lucky. he was always joyful by nature, shirking responsibilities and not taking anything too seriously.

this makes him ill equipped to understand and bare the hard ships of being torched in jail. seeing a dead body covered in blood, would have been quite traumatic, more so if the dead is someone you know and like, even worse is being blamed for a murder you have never commited.

true his behaviour is sort of over the top. but that is the CV fault not the actors or the character's
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

@ Divysan


I dont think you are getting the point I am trying to make! The fact remains that the way Baldev is currently acting towards Veera IS abusive. We may not want to accept it, but that is what it is!


He made her sleep on the porch on their wedding night. Then he has been yelling at her in front of his business associates and called her a useless wife in front of all of them, after spitting the food she made. He asked her to dance in a Dhaba in front of drunk men. Then he pretty much held her by the throat. Whatever the REASON he is doing this, the fact remains his behavior is violent, and putting Veera at risk.


You HONESTLY cannot equate putting color in Haldi, and giving peanuts to Baldev and Surjeet Singh getting a shock from a Mike with THIS? Those were pranks and would never have any long lasting effect. Frankly if those things make her criminal, then the many fights and many situations that Baldev has landed himself in makes him a criminal too.


I am not saying her acts are good, but it is not the same as SUSTAINED ill treatment of a person day in and out. Not just in private but publicly too.


I think you are too biased against Veera to see this situation for what it really is. So there is no point in me continuing to discuss this with you. I think we should just agree to disagree. But it disturbs me when someone is called a criminal when they give someone peanuts, or puts color in Haldi? That itself should tell me you hate Veera too much for us to have any rational discussion about her character. So, I rest my case!





Baldev got almost killed , he went to jail thrice for nothing he did, physically and mentally brutally tortured , was given electric shock , no support from any one - every one considers him a murderer , went mentally unstable , he is physically hurting himself ... , dont know if he will be alright even after the therapy , dont know how will people look at him after that ...

but everyone's sympathy is for Veera who just got char kadwe words ...
just because she is a woman ... wah wah ...


Whatever Veera does are pranks - including giving peanuts to a peanut allergic person -- which could have killed Baldev ., but since Veera did - it is prank ...

Had Baldev did it would have been an abuse ... just because he is a man ..

Being a woman is not a licence to do physical and emotional atyachar on others ...



Veera converted Baldev into a psycho -- now dealing with his psycho nature -- serves her right ...
If she had kept her mouth shut and not resorted to name calling , he would have kept her on sar ankhom mein ...

So each and every thing -- Veera deserves ...

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Veera didnt send Baldev to jail and neither did she give him an electric shock. Yes Rajveer targeted him because he was obsessed with Veera. But she dosent even KNOW that. So she is not accountable for Rajveer's acts. But the way that Baldev is acting towards her now, is his decision. He has decided that this is how he is going to deal with the disappointment of Veera not trusting him.

Yes she gave him peanuts, but I am sure there was an antidote for it which he could take, as he realised he ate peanuts. I am not saying Veera should be excused coz she is a women. But when someone leaves her family and comes to you, and now you are the only person in her life, YOU treat her like dirt, that is not acceptable!


Yes Baldev has gone through a lot, but that dosent mean how he is acting towards Veera is the right way to behave! Saying she DESERVES to be told to dance in a Dhaba in front of drunk men, just does NOT compute with me! Sorry! I know Baldev is not in his senses, but I think the CV's are taking this too far! It's time to reign it in.


I said when ASR made Khushi sleep outside, that he is being abusive towards her. People defended him saying he thinks she had an affair with her brother in law! Yes he did think that. But that was not a defence for making someone sleep outside in Winter. That is just plain cruel. I love ASR, but I told it like it is! Some people even wanted to act like Khushi deserved it too. But she didnt!


Women are not perfect! THEY can be wrong and they can make mistakes too. Veera is a flawed women, just like Ratan and Gunjan are. So in this equation ALL these women deserve any sort of treatment, coz they didnt behave perfectly all the time? Veera was wrong to trust her Brother, so that means she deserves all this ill treatment. I guess that is justice for some. But a pretty warped one if you ask me!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

Veera didnt send Baldev to jail and neither did she give him an electric shock. Yes Rajveer targeted him because he was obsessed with Veera. But she dosent even KNOW that. So she is not accountable for Rajveer's acts. But the way that Baldev is acting towards her now, is his decision. He has decided that this is how he is going to deal with the disappointment of Veera not trusting him.

Yes she gave him peanuts, but I am sure there was an antidote for it which he could take, as he realised he ate peanuts. I am not saying Veera should be excused coz she is a women. But when someone leaves her family and comes to you, and now you are the only person in her life, YOU treat her like dirt, that is not acceptable!


Yes Baldev has gone through a lot, but that dosent mean how he is acting towards Veera is the right way to behave! Saying she DESERVES to be told to dance in a Dhaba in front of drunk men, just does NOT compute with me! Sorry! I know Baldev is not in his senses, but I think the CV's are taking this too far! It's time to reign it in.


I said when ASR made Khushi sleep outside, that he is being abusive towards her. People defended him saying he thinks she had an affair with her brother in law! Yes he did think that. But that was not a defence for making someone sleep outside in Winter. That is just plain cruel. I love ASR, but I told it like it is! Some people even wanted to act like Khushi deserved it too. But she didnt!


Women are not perfect! THEY can be wrong and they can make mistakes too. Veera is a flawed women, just like Ratan and Gunjan are. So in this equation ALL these women deserve any sort of treatment, coz they didnt behave perfectly all the time? Veera was wrong to trust her Brother, so that means she deserves all this ill treatment. I guess that is justice for some. But a pretty warped one if you ask me!


If peanut has anti- dote -- there are are medicines for sukham and fever which Veera got after sleeping on floor ...

And if he asked her to dance ( the situation was created by her only ) , she has slapped him and called him a gunda, murderer and nalayak and what all infront of pind wasis and his own family ...Respect is not only for ladies ...it is for all ...

She can slap , abuse , talk whatever crap about anyone anywhere ..., but if some one even does just 1% of the same to her in mentally ill state .. then that becomes domestic violence ... wah wah ...

and about the bold part ... Veera has been treating Baldev like one since ages ...

And if Baldev wasnot there to help , Ranvi wouldnt have been alive today ... and they are giving him such treatment .. I havent seen such ehsaan faramosh characters in tv till now ...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Baldev is not mentally fit damn thing kisi ko samajh kyun nahi aa rahi did they ever see mentally disturb person 😵
amazing people still justifying fit person but accusing mentally sick person👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -dear10-

Baldev is not mentally fit damn thing kisi ko samajh kyun nahi aa rahi did they ever see mentally disturb person 😵

amazing people still justifying fit person but accusing mentally sick person👏

Chod de re. Kamal hen sab👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -dear10-

Baldev is not mentally fit damn thing kisi ko samajh kyun nahi aa rahi did they ever see mentally disturb person 😵

amazing people still justifyin
g fit person but accusing mentally sick person👏

ya u r ri8

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