Baldev is not ill but ill-cultured and ill-literate

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Posted: 10 years ago
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I have finally found out the real reason behind Baldev's ignominious behavior towards his wife and that is definitely not PTSD 😆
Baldev is a ill-literate, non-cultured bully of a village called Pritampura. That's what he is and that's what Bamsuri raised him to become.

The evidence was very much presented during his childhood, where he was more interested in acts which could shame even adults.

He grew-up in a village where his father was the sarpanch and had a mother who believed in age-old wisdom that son only matters.

His false male-pride got hurt when his wife refused to believe that he is innocent, coz she has her own mind and thinking...

Now to put a balm on his bruised male ego, he is doing everything to turn his wife into a de-moralized , timid and submissive house pet.

Baldev you are really ill buddy, but that's your natue, not illness

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Wow so tell me why did Mr illiterate and ill cultured save veera from those goons, when they were enemies. Why did he try to cheer her up after ranvi's birthday fiasco, despite of her breaking his heart. If Baldev's upbringing was so bad each time he realized his mistake, he wouldn't apologize to show of like some people but actually regret the fact and try to rectify it. Bringing the boxes to the mela after realizing it is for the good of the pind, wanting to apologize to Nihal immediately, and whole heartedly feeling guilty. Not like some people who think they can blame others whenever they like, hit them, slap them, send them to jail and apologize as if doing a favour on the person they hurt.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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A reply from a "not so blind" fan:
If Baldev is MCP, so is Ranvi.

Baldev genuinely loves Veera. In fact if he were mentally stable right now, he would possibly have let Veera do what she wanted. In fact, baldev has supported Veera. It was Baldev who was okay with Nihaal Ratan marriage when so called cultured Ranvi was set against it.

Baldev would have showered love to Veera. In fact it was Baldev's unconditional love and affection for Veera that attracted Veera. Or else why would a well educated and so proud Veera go for illiterate Baldev.

Baldev is mentally unstable. For me, my objection is only Baldev blind fans justifying saying "Veera deserves it" I get disturbed when I read people saying a woman deserves assault and abuse because she has her own weaknesses. That is my issue in this forum.

Baldev's behavior towards Veera is well documented. Mental illness is for real. No one in Balwant family has even suspected Baldev has mental problem. (Only veera vaguely mentions though she is not as such pushing)

Dealing with mental illness is difficult. I have a friend's sister who is mentally ill. She hates her mother for reason known to her. Once she tried to burn the gas to kill the mother. If her act justified? nO? But does that mentally ill person know what she is doing? No. But does the mother deserve such a treatment? A Big NO. So please have sympathy for both the characters Baldev and Veera.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kabshah

A reply from a "not so blind" fan:

If Baldev is MCP, so is Ranvi.

Baldev genuinely loves Veera. In fact if he were mentally stable right now, he would possibly have let Veera do what she wanted. In fact, baldev has supported Veera. It was Baldev who was okay with Nihaal Ratan marriage when so called cultured Ranvi was set against it.
cos ratan is ranvi's mother and he lost his dad long back. not baldev's

Baldev would have showered love to Veera. In fact it was Baldev's unconditional love and affection for Veera that attracted Veera. Or else why would a well educated and so proud Veera go for illiterate Baldev.

Baldev is mentally unstable. For me, my objection is only Baldev blind fans justifying saying "Veera deserves it" I get disturbed when I read people saying a woman deserves assault and abuse because she has her own weaknesses. That is my issue in this forum.

Baldev's behavior towards Veera is well documented. Mental illness is for real. No one in Balwant family has even suspected Baldev has mental problem. (Only veera vaguely mentions though she is not as such pushing)

Dealing with mental illness is difficult. I have a friend's sister who is mentally ill. She hates her mother for reason known to her. Once she tried to burn the gas to kill the mother. If her act justified? nO? But does that mentally ill person know what she is doing? No. But does the mother deserve such a treatment? A Big NO. So please have sympathy for both the characters Baldev and Veera.


i think the topic maker is speaking abt baldev only and dint really mention and comparison to ranvi or any other being on earth... so making baldev comparison to anyone doesnt take away wat the TM mentions...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: NV-ranjanholic


i think the topic maker is speaking abt baldev only and dint really mention and comparison to ranvi or any other being on earth... so making baldev comparison to anyone doesnt take away wat the TM mentions...



Even if i delete that line of comparison between Baldev and Ranvi, it does not take away what i mentioned earlier. Baldev is not a devil that TM is making out of..that is it
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kabshah



Even if i delete that line of comparison between Baldev and Ranvi, it does not take away what i mentioned earlier. Baldev is not a devil that TM is making out of..that is it


yeah dats cool.. cos dats ur arguement to the TM..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I don't agree that Baldev is a terrible guy or uncultured. He has actually shown that despite his Mother's attempts to turn him into an MCP he has managed not to succumb fully.


But I will NOT agree that Veera deserves abuse, because no one deserves that! Veera does love Baldev in her own way, but that is not how he wanted to be loved. In fact he was over the Moon, that Veera wanted to get married, despite Ranvi accusing him of killing Nihal. He thought she trusted him implicitly and wanted to show her faith in him. But when he realized that was not the case, he was broken!


That, plus the abuse he went through in jail has made him unstable and volatile. But that does not mean that the violent way he is acting now should be encouraged or excused! As FEMALES we should have more sense than to condone violence or ill treatment of females in ANY form! I like Baldev a lot. In fact HE is my favorite character and Vishal my favorite actor in the show. But that doesn't mean I am SO blind, that I will defend ANY act of his!


Like some blind Ranvi fans cant see beyond their hormonal fancy for Shivin to examine Ranvi's unacceptable behavior...I REFUSE to become one of those fans, that cant see beyond Vishal's hotness to the character Baldev's actions!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Now a ill person is called as ill cultured and illiterate then veera is boyfriend abuser when she slapped him. She like to play with baldev 's feeling faking her love during surpanch track...veera is a graduate still she doesn't know playing with someone feeling is the worst thing anyone could ever do. If I started to list things what veera did to baldev then I'm gna have to sit here for hours and hours to make the list.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

I don't agree that Baldev is a terrible guy or uncultured. He has actually shown that despite his Mother's attempts to turn him into an MCP he has managed not to succumb fully.



But I will NOT agree that Veera deserves abuse, because no one deserves that! Veera does love Baldev in her own way, but that is not how he wanted to be loved. In fact he was over the Moon, that Veera wanted to get married, despite Ranvi accusing him of killing Nihal. He thought she trusted him implicitly and wanted to show her faith in him. But when he realized that was not the case, he was broken!


That, plus the abuse he went through in jail has made him unstable and volatile. But that does not mean that the violent way he is acting now should be encouraged or excused! As FEMALES we should have more sense than to condone violence or ill treatment of females in ANY form! I like Baldev a lot. In fact HE is my favorite character and Vishal my favorite actor in the show. But that doesn't mean I am SO blind, that I will defend ANY act of his!


Like some blind Ranvi fans cant see beyond their hormonal fancy for Shivin to examine Ranvi's unacceptable behavior...I REFUSE to become one of those fans, that cant see beyond Vishal's hotness to the character Baldev's actions!



Your mindset is 100% like mine.

No matter how wrong Veera could be as a girl friend or a wife, I cannot accept a philosophy that VEERA DESERVES IT. "Deserve Abuses" is a very strong and sadistic way of looking at someone's pain. Worse, domestic violence so often happens in our culture. In some way or other when we say a woman "deserves" abuse for her flaws , then we are in our own way promoting gender abuse. Because no woman can be a perfect woman as people perceive,

The crux of this story is that Veera and Baldev are two different people. Veera has always been so blindly faithful to her brother. She has never seen the world beyond Ranvi world. Ranvi is wrong in many ways. He has not been a good son, not a good husband, not a good professional, and frankly he is not a good brother too. But Veera is raised to believe that Ranvi could do no wrong, he sacrificed his happiness for her happiness. I see Veera Ranvi love as obsession for each other than love per se.

Veera fell in love with baldev, but she always felt she is superior to Baldev. I She always felt that Baldev could never get a girl like her. However, with time, gradually she understood how much Baldev meant to her and how much truly she loves this guy.

So one has to understand Veera is coming out of this life long obsession. It takes time to realize that the person who is god for you is actually not a god but a regular human being with flaws (tell me are we ready to think our father is wrong if we have to face such a situation, can we easily discard our father for our lover, that too thinking father is wrong and our lover is only right? In practical, it is not that easy )

For blind Baldev fans to expect that Veera should leave everything, discard Ranvi and totally submit herself to Baldev is wrong. No woman deserves such an insult and abuse.

Gradually she will realize her brother is wrong, she will start showing her support to Baldev (I think that is where this story is leading to)

I actually feel so bad for baldev too. i think every time he hurts Veera, he ends u hurting his heart more.

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