Neither of Veeba can be blamed

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I know its kind of a long post but pleae please do read it. Please do read it.

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All in this their isnt Baldev's fault or Veera's. As we have seen that being sarpanch has been Baldev's dream since his childhood,(I actually dont know how the story was before the leap i started watching the show after the leap) or is it?
The feeling I got that this isnt directly Baldev's dream its more Bansuri's dream to see Baldev as the sarpanch so she can show of to her friends. Baldev's real passion is something else. Being sarpanch is more Bansuri's dream which he is following blindly and is thinking that this is his dream. Bansuri has
manipulated Baldev's mind with that he should be the sarpanch.
If this had been his real passion, than he wouldnt choose the wrong parth, he would be on the right parth.
For him this was just to show people, he didnt have a heart in this really. If he had full heart in this he would have won. And being sarpanch i found him to immature, and dont say anything else he would never able to take care of the whole pind by himself.

Even Ranvi I feel wouldnt had suited for this role, as the person needs to be a little exprinced, and even Ranvi didnt have his full heart in this matter. No one can help someone if you dont really want it.

Coming to Veera, she and Baldev have hated each other since their childhood (whatI have understood) and slowly (very slowly) became friends, actually never really friends friends. Then one day the same guy who had been you enemy your whole life thinks she loves him, and runs behind her saying we should get married, how would you feel??

Even when she was trying to explain that there isnt any feelings like that he is not listening. And is just going on and on and on. Then they have a major fight than this guy understand that this girl is no intrested in you, you feel rejected, but was this guy sure about his own feelings?? Such dections cant your friends make for you. You have to think on your own.

Then the girl think that this guy beated up her brother, the same brother who has taken care of her, her whole life. Been her mom, dad and sibilling to her. And she loves him more than herself, would she be angry and sad?? After this guy who she thinks has beaten up her brother. Does one more bad thing, cuts the name of her brother off, which ones again she loves more than her life. Wont she be angry??

It isnt directly Veeba's fault in all this if you think from both sides.
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Love Amy!!😉

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: KreyaArshiLover

I know its kind of a long post but pleae please do read it. Please do read it.

_________________________________________________________________________________
All in this their isnt Baldev's fault or Veera's. As we have seen that being sarpanch has been Baldev's dream since his childhood,(I actually dont know how the story was before the leap i started watching the show after the leap) or is it?
The feeling I got that this isnt directly Baldev's dream its more Bansuri's dream to see Baldev as the sarpanch so she can show of to her friends. Baldev's real passion is something else. Being sarpanch is more Bansuri's dream which he is following blindly and is thinking that this is his dream.


I kind of think this part is true. Bansuri has always wanted baldev to be the surpanch and i think that's y baldev wants to be surpanch! Iam so confuse now!😕

Btw, wouldn't it be awesome if baldev goes to city and becomes a STAR and all girls will be after him and veera will be jealous! It's Just my prediction..which will never come true!😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hey Amy...I beg to disagree on this point that Baldev was not passionate about becoming the sarparnch. Yes Bansuri had always manipulated him since childhood and made him think that he is going to the next Sarparnch after his father. But Baldev too was passionate about it. Baldev has never been taught the difference between right and wrong. Since childhood Bansuri had misguided him and whenever he did something wrong she had defended him. Balwant had failed as a father miserably too because I feel just taunting your son is never going to make him follow the right path. You have to guide them and make them understand with love. So he grew up to be a grey shaded person who was not averse to the idea of treading the wrong path to attain his means and that is the reason he had even bullied the villagers to organize the MKC. So his using wrong means to fulfill his dreams does not come as a surprise to me. Still he was in his limits and though it was important for him,he never let his professional enmity affect his relationship with Veera. He was passionate about the post but took it up as a challenge when he realized that Veera had played with his feelings and then tried to publicly humiliate him in front of the villagers. It was at this juncture that he decided he would cross all limits and win the election to prove her and his father wrong and that is when he got Ranvi disqualified by manipulating Gunjan. If he had not been passionate about this post, he would not have reacted the way he did after he lost the elections. The pain and frustration was clearly evident in the way he broke the things in his room post the results and his breakdown in his mother's arm reflecting that he had lost for the first time in his life. You are affected in such a way only when you are extremely passionate about it. His current intentions to get back his dream post at any cost cannot be blamed taking into consideration how he feels. Coming to Veera, yes I agree that being constantly pursued by a guy whom you have considered your enemy since childhood is irritating and when he was adamant on marrying her she had to take help of this foolish plan .But I believe that though she had not realized how serious Baldev was and how serious the consequences of her plan can be, she has to realize what she did was not right. It would have been better if she had involved the elders. Though she has herself been through the pain of failed love, she is still to understand Baldev's pain. And her preconceived notions about him also needs to be changed. As soon as her Veerji was hurt she assumed it must be Baldev's doing. She has this conception at the back of her mind that Baldev is always at fault even if he is not involved in it. Both of them are so similar in nature in jumping to conclusions and that is reason of clash in their relationship.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Agree with you that neither Baldev nor Veera can be completely blamed for this mess.. The circumstances are to be blamed!

Though I kind of disagree with the fact that becoming the sarpanch wasn't Baldev's dream..
I think Baldev always wanted to become a sarpanch.. It was his only dream.. He chose the wrong path to achieve his dream because he didn't really have anyone to guide him. The way he broke down after he lost the elections was a clear indication that his only dream was shattered !

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Posted: 11 years ago
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According to Ratan, this was his dream from childhood but she did not approve of the means he went about to make his dreams a reality. It is very likely possibility that Bansuri instilled this idea in his head though, because as a child I did not remember Baldev ever talking about becoming Sarpanch so she could have been behind giving him this idea.

I agree with you about Baldev, while I love the guy he still has a long way to go before taking up such a position. He is guided by the wrong people and being in charge of an entire pind is not a small responsibility, Ranvi said it right that maybe in a few years Baldev will be ready but right now the timing is wrong.

As for Veera, you are right Baldev's 180 turn took her by surprise and she didn't know what to make of it. For Veera all she knew was that this guy was not taking no for an answer so she came up with a plot that hurt him unintentionally, she can't really be faulted for not seeing his love because Baldev himself has yet to realize he is in love with her.

I feel Veera and Baldev do share blame in the events that are occurring but at the same time they can only be faulted to an extent because given their history with each other, this is more a habit than anything for them. Neither realize when they cross the line and given that they are so alike, it is hard for either to think logically when they begin clashing.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: DazzilerDizzy


I kind of think this part is true. Bansuri has always wanted baldev to be the surpanch and i think that's y baldev wants to be surpanch! Iam so confuse now!😕

Btw, wouldn't it be awesome if baldev goes to city and becomes a STAR and all girls will be after him and veera will be jealous! It's Just my prediction..which will never come true!😳


Hahahaha, that would be fun
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ElireEli

Hey Amy...I beg to disagree on this point that Baldev was not passionate about becoming the sarparnch. Yes Bansuri had always manipulated him since childhood and made him think that he is going to the next Sarparnch after his father. But Baldev too was passionate about it. Baldev has never been taught the difference between right and wrong. Since childhood Bansuri had misguided him and whenever he did something wrong she had defended him. Balwant had failed as a father miserably too because I feel just taunting your son is never going to make him follow the right path. You have to guide them and make them understand with love. So he grew up to be a grey shaded person who was not averse to the idea of treading the wrong path to attain his means and that is the reason he had even bullied the villagers to organize the MKC. So his using wrong means to fulfill his dreams does not come as a surprise to me. Still he was in his limits and though it was important for him,he never let his professional enmity affect his relationship with Veera. He was passionate about the post but took it up as a challenge when he realized that Veera had played with his feelings and then tried to publicly humiliate him in front of the villagers. It was at this juncture that he decided he would cross all limits and win the election to prove her and his father wrong and that is when he got Ranvi disqualified by manipulating Gunjan. If he had not been passionate about this post, he would not have reacted the way he did after he lost the elections. The pain and frustration was clearly evident in the way he broke the things in his room post the results and his breakdown in his mother's arm reflecting that he had lost for the first time in his life. You are affected in such a way only when you are extremely passionate about it. His current intentions to get back his dream post at any cost cannot be blamed taking into consideration how he feels. Coming to Veera, yes I agree that being constantly pursued by a guy whom you have considered your enemy since childhood is irritating and when he was adamant on marrying her she had to take help of this foolish plan .But I believe that though she had not realized how serious Baldev was and how serious the consequences of her plan can be, she has to realize what she did was not right. It would have been better if she had involved the elders. Though she has herself been through the pain of failed love, she is still to understand Baldev's pain. And her preconceived notions about him also needs to be changed. As soon as her Veerji was hurt she assumed it must be Baldev's doing. She has this conception at the back of her mind that Baldev is always at fault even if he is not involved in it. Both of them are so similar in nature in jumping to conclusions and that is reason of clash in their relationship.


I understood your view but I dont agree with it. I still dont feel that Baldevs real passion was to be a sarpanch. Someones real passion comes from the heart and no one needs to tell him that he/she will become this. The whole week I have felt that it was more Bansuris dream, how people have pointed out, this is what i feel. And Baldevs frustration and pain, was more bcs he couldnt win the challenge which he had put up infront of Veera, plus his male ego was hurt.

For Veera the situation would been akward if she had gone up to her elders and told them that Baldev wants to marry me!! How would they react and what effect had it put up infront of the whole famliy, and she even felt that Baldevs love was a joke, is was joking around with her in the begning, later she felt that his love was infatuation. So she thought everything would be alright with this. From their childhood Veera have seen almost everytime something bad has happened somehow and somewhere baldev has been involoved in it. So its not her fault in that, if you understand what I mean
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Originally posted by: KreyaArshiLover


I understood your view but I dont agree with it. I still dont feel that Baldevs real passion was to be a sarpanch. Someones real passion comes from the heart and no one needs to tell him that he/she will become this. The whole week I have felt that it was more Bansuris dream, how people have pointed out, this is what i feel. And Baldevs frustration and pain, was more bcs he couldnt win the challenge which he had put up infront of Veera, plus his male ego was hurt.

For Veera the situation would been akward if she had gone up to her elders and told them that Baldev wants to marry me!! How would they react and what effect had it put up infront of the whole famliy, and she even felt that Baldevs love was a joke, is was joking around with her in the begning, later she felt that his love was infatuation. So she thought everything would be alright with this. From their childhood Veera have seen almost everytime something bad has happened somehow and somewhere baldev has been involoved in it. So its not her fault in that, if you understand what I mean


Hmmm...but I still feel he was passionate about the post. 😃 See I feel that Bansuri may have put that dream in his mind, but he followed it passionately. Agreed for Bansuri this was showing off in front of the villagers but Baldev was pretty serious it. Remember the day of election filing, at that time there was no challenge between him and Veera, still his frustration on seeing Ranvi and the determination in his voice when Balwant has extended his support to Ranvi and had not even bless him was enough to show that he really wanted to become a Sarparnch. He has never dreamt of doing anything else, in case of Ranvi his disinterest was clearly evident from the beginning. But Baldev had always this notion that he is going to be the next Sarparnch. Because to him that was the only way he could prove this father that he is not worthless as he kept taunting him. He had turned this into a challenge when he came to know that Veera had been playing with his feelings. The pain on losing was the cumulative effect of this dreams being shattered as well as his hurt ego.

About Veera, may be that would not have been a good idea but what she did was in no way justifiable either. She could have sought Ranvi's help. Or else simply avoided him. But she also lead in a way by throwing challenges at him. There must have been another way out I guess. I don't think her Veerji would support her if she had told him of the trick she played on Baldev. Both are to be blamed to some extent. Just my opinion 😃
Edited by ElireEli - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I think both Veera and Baldev share equal responsibility in the state of their relationship right now. Bladev got it in his head that Veera loved him. Courtesy of his two furry friends!! :). Instead of thinking about it logically, he just went with it. But the truth was, the reason he went with it was because he himself wanted it to be true!! He had started to feel something for Veera. He had started to see her as more than a childhood "Frenemy"! So he jumped on what Bhagi said and just started acting on it.


Baldev is a chauvinist. This was clear even when he started persuing Veera. He thought guys don't fall in love. Only girls do. Little did he know that he has already fallen in love with Veera. Hence all the emotions he was feeling when he saw her. The reason he could not stay away from her. The reason why her pain hurt him. It was because he was in love. But he is yet to understand this. He is yet to understand the serious nature of his feelings. Why it hurt him THAT much when he realised that Veera has been playing a game. All he has acknowledged was that he wanted to "win" her. But WHY he wanted it?? He is yet to acknowledge. But the depth of his hurt when he found out the truth has only one indication. The intensity of his feelings for Veera.


The reason that Baldev wanted to be sarpanch was because that is the highest post in the Pind and HE wanted to occupy it. Yes he was passionate about it. But not in the right way. He wanted to win, and he was ready to do some Hera Pheri for it. But the reason he went THIS seriously into the wrong path was because of his challenge to Veera. His heartbreak was fuelling his self destruction and will continue to do so!!


Coming to Veera...I think she herself is unaware of her true feelings towards Baldev. She has always regarded him as an enemy from childhood. Then they built a kind of understanding. He became more of a Frenemy and then actually a sort of friend and confidant. They started to have their own moments and their own special interactions minus a crowd. I don't think even SHE realises when he became important to her. But admit it or not, he is!!


Yes she was irritated by him and wanted him to stop persuing her. But there was a part of her that enjoyed their interactions. Enjoyed his attention and actually liked it!! She wont admit it, but she was starting to feel something for him too. After the date it was clear that she was effected by his closeness. So she HAD to get him out of her life. She came in with this lame plan of driving him away by being TOO lovey dovy with him. Little did she expect that things would get this out of control. I think deep down inside she was wondering if his feelings are not a game too? Also she has always regarded him as irresponsible. So she thinks he is not life partner material. She has this metal block in her about him. She has misunderstood him on many levels and pre judged him. This made it hard for her to see the sincerity of his feelings!!


But I think deep down inside there is a part of Veera that is as much in love with Baldev and he is with her!! I know this is a controversial comment. But I honestly believe she has not introspected about her feelings. Neither has Baldev. He was just one step ahead, coz he decided to pursue her. But Veera if she is honest will have to admit that she liked being pursued. Baldev made her feel special. He was romantic and dashing. Most girls would fall flat for him with the sort of attention he was giving her. But Veera is not "most" girls. (This is what I love about her). Her EGO stopped her from admitting her true feelings. Mark my words. She is in love with him too!! She just doesn't KNOW it yet!!


Edited by MrDarcyfan - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Mandy.

According to Ratan, this was his dream from childhood but she did not approve of the means he went about to make his dreams a reality. It is very likely possibility that Bansuri instilled this idea in his head though, because as a child I did not remember Baldev ever talking about becoming Sarpanch so she could have been behind giving him this idea.

I agree with you about Baldev, while I love the guy he still has a long way to go before taking up such a position. He is guided by the wrong people and being in charge of an entire pind is not a small responsibility, Ranvi said it right that maybe in a few years Baldev will be ready but right now the timing is wrong.

As for Veera, you are right Baldev's 180 turn took her by surprise and she didn't know what to make of it. For Veera all she knew was that this guy was not taking no for an answer so she came up with a plot that hurt him unintentionally, she can't really be faulted for not seeing his love because Baldev himself has yet to realize he is in love with her.

I feel Veera and Baldev do share blame in the events that are occurring but at the same time they can only be faulted to an extent because given their history with each other, this is more a habit than anything for them. Neither realize when they cross the line and given that they are so alike, it is hard for either to think logically when they begin clashing.



Haha you got exatly right this was exactly I wanted to right. But my came out messed out😆

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