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Posted: 11 years ago
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Okay..So i know everyone is annoyed with Veera and thinks she doesn't deserve Baldev ,so am gonna try and understand things from her perspective 😆 I have always liked Veera & Baldev as characters ( atleast till sometime back) so its easy for me to understand where the two are coming from..I guess that never happened with Ranvi or Gunjan cos i could never get myself to like them in the first place 😆

Anyways, coming to the point of my post, i have always mentioned that Veera & Baldev are similar in a lot of ways..Their basic mindset, temperament, approach towards life-its as similar as it can get..The difference is that Veera had a Ranvi who could teach her right from wrong while Baldev has Bansuri who always over-indulged him & pushed him to the wrong side..Both Veera and Baldev are filled with pride and prejudiced against the other in more ways than one..Right from their childhood, Veera has always been of the opinion that Baldev is a spoilt brat who can go to any extent to get what he wants..Now if we had to think from Veera's perspective, what do you expect her to make of Baldev if he suddenly claims that he wants to get married to her without any rhyme or reason?😆 Did he ever explain why he wants to get married to her in the first place? Did he ever tell her how serious he was about her? Did he ever consciously acknowledge the intensity of his feelings? We know that Baldev himself has no idea how serious he was about this and his friends contributed to his delusion that Veera was in love with him but how is Veera supposed to understand Baldev & his intentions?😆 He did prove to her on a lot of occasions that there is more to him than a pampered rich brat and Veera did acknowledge that he is good at heart but then is that sufficient for her to understand the enigma that is Baldev? Is it her fault that he couldn't take no for an answer? Is it her fault that he kept pursuing her despite the fact that she showed no interest in him? Is it her fault that he just wouldn't give up even after she confessed tht she threw those lame challenges only to push him away? Even when Veera asked him what he thinks about love and marriage, Baldev gave a childish definition cementing Veera's belief that he is not serious about the whole thing..So can you blame Veera if she assumed this was just Baldev's childish zidd and he'l get over it in no time? Now the only place she went wrong was when she decided to play with his feelings..That was super insensitive on her part cos IMO, nothing can justify such insensitivity..But then what made her take such an extreme step? Was it because she is generally an insensitive soul who doesn't care or was it the fact that Baldev just wouldn't back off? Veera could have complained to Ranvi or Balwanth but i believe she din want to involve the elders and humiliate Baldev..So she came up with this utterly immature plan to push him away..

Coming to the whole revelation and Veera's consequent reaction, aren't we expecting way too much from Veera? From her point of view, Baldev was behind Ranvi getting beaten up..He looked guilty as hell and though i admit she was nasty to him that day, nothing has happened post that which could disprove her belief that Baldev was behind this attack..He bribed the villagers and made sure Veera was proved wrong in front of everyone..Dint he gloat when he got one up on Veera? If that were not enough, he was instrumental in getting Ranvi disqualified..Again, he rubbed it on her face that no one from her family can become a Sarpanch now..Even when Ratan was nominated, he tried his best to oppose the same..After all this, when he eventually loses, are we actually expecting someone like Veera to be the bigger person and understand his pain?😆 After all thats transpired between them? It would help if she doesn't taunt but thats not how Veera works..She is no Ranvi..Wouldn't Baldev have done the same had he won the election? I thought we all knew Baldev and Veera lack maturity and are sorta self-absorbed in a lot of ways..Veera cant think beyond her family and Baldev is sorta delusional in a lot of ways..Veera has no idea what this means to him..Just like she assumed Baldev wants to marry her for fun, she thinks he wanted to become the Sarpanch just for the sake of it😆 Aren't we expecting a lil too much from Veera? Not justifying her here but IMO both Veera & Baldev are right & wrong in their own way..If you think from Baldev's POV, Veera looks like this extremely cruel and insensitive person..From Veera's POV, Baldev is nothing but a spoilt brat who just cant take a rejection or defeat in life..Depends on your perspective & from which side you choose to look at things..In Ranvi and Gunjan's case, the fault was always on one side ..It was a one way traffic..But in this case, both are justified to a certain extent and both are flawed in more ways than one..

Anyways, sorry for the long rant..I have forever wanted to make this post so yeah, today i got it off my chest😆

P.S. For all those who think Veera is being super arrogant, its only a matter of time before she breaks down..Like someone mentioned, Gunjan or Bansuri or someone is so gonna use the illegitimate card against her at some point and thats gonna be enough to shatter her..That'l make me cringe though cos a marriage can be legitimate or illegitimate but kids can never be illegitimate IMO..

P.S.S. Opposing POVs are most welcome..I don mind if you disagree and choose to bash both Veera and Baldev😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice post! 😃
and Yup!! i agree with you!!! 👍🏼 Specially the Veera-having ranvi 😳and Baldev having bansuri 😡 part!!

I understand that VeeBa are childhood rivals and it is gonna take lots of time for veera to fall in love with baldev... (and it needs a proper track! ). I feel Baldev falling for Veera was fine! But all that "challenges etc etc" were not enough for veera to just go and say- "i love u i love u i love u" to baldev. I mean c'mon, she is not like us 😆

PS:I am really hoping to see Veera's breakdown and baldev's intense love 😳 i mean, vishal can do intense romantic scenes so well.!! 😭

Edited by ..RiMjHiM.. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..RiMjHiM..

Nice post! 😃

and Yup!! i agree with you!!! 👍🏼 Specially the Veera-having ranvi 😳and Baldev having bansuri 😡 part!!

I understand that VeeBa are childhood rivals and it is gonna take lots of time for veera to fall in love with baldev... (and it needs a proper track! ). I feel Baldev falling for Veera was fine! But all that "challenges etc etc" were not enough for veera to just go and say- "i love u i love u i love u" to baldev. I mean c'mon, she is not like us 😆

PS:I am really hoping to see Veera's breakdown and baldev's intense love 😳 i mean, vishal can do intense romantic scenes so well.!! 😭



Yup true..But i have a feeling they'l reform Baldev on Monday, make Veera fall in love on Tuesday and show cheesy romance on Wednesday 🤢😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i agree with each and every points u said... here neither veera nor baldev is right/wrong.. they both r equally flawed. Thats how they have been frm childhood.. Veera taunting baldev regarding results was not a surprise, atleast not for me cuz as u said she is no ranvi..

Regarding her challenges to baldev.. She never took him seriously why to say abt her wen baldev himself doesn't knows if the feeling he had for veera was love or some infatuation until he lose her.. I guess veera didn't want to bring her family btwn them and baldev was not at all ready to accept a no from her.. Tats why she choose tat 5 day plan so tat he himselves dumps her.. But yeah tat was really insensitive of her to play with his emotions..

Still i'll say both r wrong on some or other way and tats wat make em veera and baldev (and intersting to watch also, iGuess 😊 )
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: dew_dropz

i agree with each and every points u said... here neither veera nor baldev is right/wrong.. they both r equally flawed. Thats how they have been frm childhood.. Veera taunting baldev regarding results was not a surprise, atleast not for me cuz as u said she is no ranvi..

Regarding her challenges to baldev.. She never took him seriously why to say abt her wen baldev himself doesn't knows if the feeling he had for veera was love or some infatuation until he lose her.. I guess veera didn't want to bring her family btwn them and baldev was not at all ready to accept a no from her.. Tats why she choose tat 5 day plan so tat he himselves dumps her.. But yeah tat was really insensitive of her to play with his emotions..

Still i'll say both r wrong on some or other way and tats wat make em veera and baldev (and intersting to watch also, iGuess 😊 )



True..Am not sure if they'l develop their love story properly after this or leave it half baked but then at this point, both are sorta justified in their own way😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I think ur right but i still cant sympathize with veera may be cuz they dint show her pov.
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I think ur right but i still cant sympathize with veera may be cuz they dint show her pov.



Haha thats alright..I don sympathize with any character tbh😆 I felt sorry for Baldev yesterday but then both Veera & Baldev sorta deserve all thats coming their way😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree with your points totally. Both Baldev and Veera have their own POV and that is the reason they chose to behave as they have. The fact I most agree with is that Veera always had Ranvi to guide her when she was going down a wrong path. (Coz we all know Veera is NO Ranvi. She is a rebel and she always believed in giving as good as she got). But Ranvi always managed to get her back on the straight and narrow.

But Baldev? He had Bansuri. Need I say more? Balwant was never effective at getting his message across to Baldev. His methods never worked on him. Mummy dearest is just a total vamp. So what do you expect from misguided Baldev??


What Veera did to him was wrong. But I think she genuinely believed that he would just get 'fed up' with her behaviour and give up his "Zid". Little did she know that this had gone WAY beyond Zid for Baldev. He had really fallen for her. Her words to Amrit after Baldev left all cut up, made her suprise clear. She said "I didn't think a guy like Baldev would get this SENTI"?? What does that tell you? She had never expected his feelings to be real. Colossal mistake on her part!!


As for Baldev...? He himself never acknowledged to himself or to anyone else VERBALLY the way he felt for Veera. All he knew was that he wanted to "make her his". He didn't know why! He himself didn't realise when he started to feel for Veera. When he started to view her as more than just a childhood "Frenemy"! His friends telling him that Veera loved him was the catalyst. But he only accepted that because he wanted it to be true. He wanted a direction for his feelings, and the belief that Veera loved him, gave him a valid reason to peruse the feelings he was harbouring. Though un acknowledged, the feelings he was harbouring for her were romantic, and this is the reason he so readily accepted that Veera felt something for him. It was classic mirroring.


So what next?? When and how will this "dastan eh Ishq" see a new day?? Let's hope that CV's don't make it a rush job! I will HATE them if they did that. Please don't make this another RANJAN. Please give this time. Let it slow cook. Let it marinate. Give the love track it's due importance. Vishal is a superb actor and I want them to give him some SUPER intense romantic scenes. I want to see him accept that he loves Veera. Even a monologue to start with. A rocking confession too. Maybe in an unexpected way??


Like the confession of ASR. "Because I love you dammit"!! No frills. It was just out! I loved it to the max. I want the same for Baldev. Just acknowledge your feelings my son! Lol
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Posted: 11 years ago
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The problem with Veera and Baldev is that they're too similar than they realize.

I hope the two can understand this soon and forget their misgivings. Then they'll be the dynamic duo we wish to see them as.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

I agree with your points totally. Both Baldev and Veera have their own POV and that is the reason they chose to behave as they have. The fact I most agree with is that Veera always had Ranvi to guide her when she was going down a wrong path. (Coz we all know Veera is NO Ranvi. She is a rebel and she always believed in giving as good as she got). But Ranvi always managed to get her back on the straight and narrow.

But Baldev? He had Bansuri. Need I say more? Balwant was never effective at getting his message across to Baldev. His methods never worked on him. Mummy dearest is just a total vamp. So what do you expect from misguided Baldev??


What Veera did to him was wrong. But I think she genuinely believed that he would just get 'fed up' with her behaviour and give up his "Zid". Little did she know that this had gone WAY beyond Zid for Baldev. He had really fallen for her. Her words to Amrit after Baldev left all cut up, made her suprise clear. She said "I didn't think a guy like Baldev would get this SENTI"?? What does that tell you? She had never expected his feelings to be real. Colossal mistake on her part!!


As for Baldev...? He himself never acknowledged to himself or to anyone else VERBALLY the way he felt for Veera. All he knew was that he wanted to "make her his". He didn't know why! He himself didn't realise when he started to feel for Veera. When he started to view her as more than just a childhood "Frenemy"! His friends telling him that Veera loved him was the catalyst. But he only accepted that because he wanted it to be true. He wanted a direction for his feelings, and the belief that Veera loved him gave him a valid reason to peruse the feelings he was harbouring. Though un acknowledged, the feelings he was harbouring for her were romantic, and this is the reason he so readily accepted that Veera felt something for him. It was classic mirroring.


So what next?? When and how will this "dastan eh Ishq" see a new day?? Let's hope that CV's don't make it a rush job! I will HATE them if they did that. Please don't make this another RANJAN. Please give this time. Let it slow cook. Let it marinate. Give the love track it's due importance. Vishal is a superb actor and I want them to give him some SUPER intense romantic scenes. I want to see him accept that he loves Veera. Even a monologue to start with. A rocking confession too. Maybe in an unexpected way??


Like the confession of ASR. "Because I love you dammit"!! No frills. It was just out! I loved it to the max. I want the same for Baldev. Just acknowledge your feelings my son! Lol



Wow..This is way better than what i wrote tbh😆 Like i mentioned in another post, the day Baldev questions himself and introspects why Veera's rejection hurt him so much, half the problems will be solved..Oh and Veera needs to understand how much of an impact her 'fake love' drama has had on Baldev's psyche..Its a two way process..Veera is oblivious about Baldev's feelings and its intensity while Baldev is delusional and refuses to acknowledge that Veera mattered to him to an extent that he let her take advantage of him..Unfortunately way too much is happening between the two leaving no room for introspection..And yeah, i hope the process is gradual too..

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