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Posted: 9 years ago
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Y'day's episode was quite ridiculous in many ways!

RNJ asks G if she has bharosa on him. This after she has refused to share a secret with him and pushed him into marriage with another woman!


G tells RNJ khud se bhi zyada. This after refusing to believe that he can handle a secret without killing himself.

I mean, are the creatives trolling us Throwing words like suhaag, suhaagan, pativrata, balidaan and bharosa that have become a joke on this show!


Both RaGa scenes were thanda. The intensity was not there simply because the scenes had poor content.

An entire epi dedicated to shraap. Not that I bothered to watch anything other than the two RaGa scenes.

ETR2's TRP-fication is complete though! Maybe that is why TRP Maata blessed them for last week. I mean how can you not be blessed after showing two women pulling each other's hair out and fighting over who will give the husband a waris!

Will the love affair between ETR2 and TRP maata continue? It may last a week or two but I doubt if there will be increase in love. The most passionate phase just passed last week.

Until the next ugly twist, TRP Maata will either keep the show where it is or she might push it down the ladder just a bit!


For those who care about the content of shows, ETR2 and TRP Maata together y'day delivered Babaji ka Thullu!


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Bertie, u spoke my mind.
If G had khud se bhi zaada bharosa on Ranaji, she would tell him the secret, she would also convince RM to tell him the truth about his birth and let him make the judgement call.
When Ranaji said ure Zidd has broken our relationship but not Bharosa, i was dumbstruck, then where was this Trust on G when she was saying that he did not kill Avdesh its a saazish and he refused to lend ear or investigate.
And the CVs, very convenient writing, Bharosa appears and disappears for TRPs and drama.Lol

If Rana had raddi bhar bharosa he would have stopped the marriage to investigate and if G had bharosa she would tell him the secret. Either ways No Marriage. But No, CV's had to promote Bigamy and get Rana married again.

Rofl Rofl Rofl..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Bertie the whole show doesn't make sens, selective amnesia and sometimes characters say a thing today and their actions are opposite later.

About Bharosa, when did he ever trust her either!! he always needed proofs all the time, did he trust her in fake Sula's matter?! in BRM's matter? in Avdesh matter?!! did he trust her the day of the wedding with Rageshwari when he said she is making stories, when did she ever make any story?

You know at some point I liked Ranaji's character and tried to understand him all the way and I like that he is an open book but they butchered him a lot, it's just that in this track they dumbed down Gayatri's character too since the day she allowed BRM in the house actually! I'm ok about giving someone the benefit of doubt though the likes of BRM never get redeemed but at least keep an eye on her and when something wrong starts to happen u should doubt her, actually in that matter everyone apart from Kunwars and Rags are blind, be it Rajmata, Rnj, swarna or Gayatri they actually believe she is redeemed!! well Rajmata still has some doubts but nothing near the Rajmata we knew, nothing effective! Gayatri knowing that Rageshwari has an ally in the mahal never thought that it might be BRM!! she knows very well about BRM's nautanki from the last experience!! she knows BRM can pretend to be good and fool others while she is pure evil !!


Anyways nothing makes sense so don't look for it, I know Gayatri did a big mistake by letting the marriage reach the phase it reached in her phobia of her pati committing a suicide, she was delusional in thinking she might find the proof at time and stop the shaadi, actually I can't understand how she could risk what matters most to her! but people in phobia can behave in an insane way, the tricks the mind can play especially when Rajmata was emphasising them! but still that was a stupid thing and it costed her a lot! but let's be fair Ranaji doesn't have the right to ask her for trust when he doesn't trust her either even after she proved many times that she can be right! actually he created that lack of trust from her side and her permanent quest for proofs, when your partner always asks for proofs and never believes u in crucial times! Waise with the lack of trust I wonder that even if she told him the truth and Rajmata denied that, then he probably wouldn't believe her either, she will need proofs which don't exist actually!

And no matter how they try to justify it even when saying he did the shaadi for duty/justice/vashans, but I can't understand how he went ahead with last phera and put sindoor while Gayatri was asking him not to do it and breaking down in front of him, Sula's nath was enough for him not to put sindoor on Gayatri's forehead but Gayatri in flesh and blood in front of him alive asking him to not do it yet he went ahead!

Let's not forget that Ranaji was actually going to back off from the marriage with Gayatri when he saw that mandap even then it was about his duty and his praja's wellfare and he gave his word too!!

He loves her, right, she proved it many times that she is trustworthy, he knows she doesn't lie, yet he didn't believe her, said she makes kahaniyan, he should at least give her the benefit of doubt if not blind trust but not even that!

I know I might be harsh on his character, but even if he displayed many beautiful qualities, Cvs didn't make him consistent and even butchered the elements that were consistent, his perceptiveness!


But as I say I don't blame any character here, it's all because of script and inconsistencies, in their quest for TRPs, they didn't even ask themselves for the main traits they should keep in their characters, his sense of justice and fairness are of no use when he believes vamps/villains and doesn't even give the benefit of doubt to the woman he claims to love

List goes on and on about many inconsistencies and bloopers and distasteful things, all this doesn't help to connect to the love story, which at times I doubt it exists in the proper term even with the beautiful scenes that they show and that I like and I liked, I really wanted to believe in Raga, tried to understand the characters but when Bahufication and bakrafications started then I knew it won't be anymore about characters but rather about cliched things and random tracks

I still like Shisti though and I even watch Raga and at times I like their scenes but I can't condone any character anymore! I always believe in being fair be it with hero/heroine ya villains/vamps



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Posted: 9 years ago
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@arshisfan


If G is delusional, so is RNJ...he is obsessed with the idea of justice and he believes he killed Avdesh...he thinks he has to take the punishment for that..!

This marriage is not about praja or duty..it is about self-flagellation...!

After the bullet story is disproved, he is left with no alternative...he cannot tell people he trusts his wife and so he will not go ahead with the wedding..


Not to defend any character but all of them are pathetic..!

The bottom line is they wanted to go ahead with the bigamy and they made RNJ the fall guy..!

Because the FL is devi ka roop and is blameless...that is the way TRP aunties like it played!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@arshi,
u used the right word, Inconsistencies in character, is messing up the Feel of a Classic for me.
Mr. Darcy and Elizabeth in Pride and Prejudice or any of the classic novels, its the consistency in characters that keep us glued and have that constant Awww feeling.

This is missing in ETR2. When conspiracies happen ,the scene ends there and there is no further investigation or doubt.
Its as if they are walking in LaLa Land as Zoombies and Dumbos. The Biggest Blooper, Not Suspecting BRM.
A Lady who has been plotting and planning to kill the king since ages, suddenly is walking around all over the palace and she is always there at every scene of crime and the Bulb has still not lit in any of the Supposedly smart King, Queen or Queen Mother. All so Naive, when will they grow up, if ever.

RGD, Ranaji, RM.Wake up and Smell the coffee, instead of walking into Silly traps again and again and again, testing the audiences intelligence. CV's dont get happy wth 2.5 TRP, content is king and dont Ridicule the folks who r watching ure show by dishing out crap after crap after crap.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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^^

Genny...they have no respect for the audience's intelligence...!

And they think that good TRPs equate good content...!

I mean I am sure even po*n will get fabulous TRPs...are they going to promote that next?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: BertieWooster

@arshisfan


If G is delusional, so is RNJ...he is obsessed with the idea of justice and he believes he killed Avdesh...he thinks he has to take the punishment for that..!

This marriage is not about praja or duty..it is about self-flagellation...!

After the bullet story is disproved, he is left with no alternative...he cannot tell people he trusts his wife and so he will not go ahead with the wedding..


Not to defend any character but all of them are pathetic..!

The bottom line is they wanted to go ahead with the bigamy and they made RNJ the fall guy..!

Because the FL is devi ka roop and is blameless...that is the way TRP aunties like it played!




@ bold I agree 😆 at different degrees

@ Red, he is to blame also, he never investigates (in first episodes he used to), and he never tries to find other alternatives (in first episodes he tried to sell some property, it didn't work, I believe as a king he could have found other solutions but then we had no problem as we wanted him to marry the heroine 😆) ! he is easily blackmailed emotionally, but as a king he should investigate, or at least buy some time, he should be slightly shrewd to convince others even vamps and villains! but this is so much to ask, afterall he is turned naive from perceptive so shrewdness is too much to ask 😆


Waise Genny I'll start to believe what you said once about Ranaji, he has a penchant to suffer 😆 I mean come on, he himself couldn't understand how Avdesh ended up dead, he is very good with nishana, so it would still seem fishy to him, I in his place would have visited that place many times even looked for Sartaj to undertand the situation, I mean in my desperation I would hold on to any hope especially that I wouldn't like to have an innocent's blood on my hands and also because I might lose the love of my life!!

Also Rageshwari gives him any kind of punishment and he agrees!! he is the king, and let's suppose he wants to deliver justice, he should give that mission to wise qualified judges they can give the punishment right! wasn't Rageshwari blackmaling him with that only his sense of justice, then I believe if he made trustworthy judges to make that decision no one in Amerkoot would question his justice!

See it's all contrived! for the sake of drama but they could at least make it in a better way to keep people loving their characters!

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Posted: 9 years ago
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The only couple having barosa for each other is Kunwar chacha and kokila...period..
Whatever it is...i think its too early to hav waris drama in a 6 month old serial and that too when leads story hasnt progressed properly n they themselves havent found the rythm.. n trust with each other.iske beech mein bacha...
CVs ...sucks..😕
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: chinkidrashti

The only couple having barosa for each other is Kunwar chacha and kokila...period..

Whatever it is...i think its too early to hav waris drama in a 6 month old serial and that too when leads story hasnt progressed properly n they themselves havent found the rythm.. n trust with each other.iske beech mein bacha...
CVs ...sucks..😕




See I believe that even if there is love, trust isn't automatic, the two people in love might really yearn and long for each other and want to be with each other but it doesn't mean they trust each other, I mean that strong trust- don't want to term it as blind trust as I believe there shouldn't be blind trust it kind of nullifies your brains but yes always good intentions and a benefit of doubt- is gained with time and when you get to know the other deeply and be more comfortable with them, and when they actually prove it that they are trustworthy with more than just words! but it doesn't mean that it should be a permanent test!.

The two people in a relationship are obviously human beings, two individuals, each with a journey, fears, insecurities, issues...They can find love but they still need to adapt to the relationship and try to overcome their issues or share them with the other, it takes time to trust.

I just wish they made the situations and stances more believable, I mean the result can be the same, but give more justification to how and why a character behaved in a certain way and not the contrived and loosy explanations ya justifications they give which make characters seem fake and doesn't help you relate to them or to their love story!
Edited by arshisfan - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Trp junta blessed them thinking g will stop the wedding. That was what the promo indicated.
Let's see how it goes these 2 weeks. I can't bring myself to watch even online.

Could be that they are focussing less on rags so yep might stay stable. Or due to wedding it might dive down
Who knows

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