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Posted: 9 years ago

A few observations:

  • During the coronation, Ranaji says that Sulakshana has come back for the people of Amerkot. A major distinction. I hope that Gayatri appreciated that.
  • Gayatri herself asked him to crown Sulakshana as the Queen and made a grandiose declaration that she married him to become his wife, not the Queen. I can understand why they couldn't resist the impulse to put that in. But that was spoiled by her tears throughout the coronation. It was almost as if she was in tears at the coronation. Granted that the status of Queen is dependent on an acknowledgment of the woman as his wife, but when she herself asked him to crown her, why so many tears? I'd understand it if she'd teared up when he made that announcement about why Sulakashana would make a good - English-educated yet traditional and one who returned for the public almost as if she did take her royal duties quite seriously.
  • Now, Gayatri takes the decision that she cannot be the second wife. She does not grant him the time that he has requested. So, does she decide only because she wants to save him the agony of making a decision in such difficult circumstances?
  • So, Badi Rani Maa was the second wife while the first wife was alive and allegedly not loved by her husband. That's one factor for her resentment against Ranaji's branch of the family. She played the emotional card with Gayatri knowing that she would win brownie points.
  • The actor playing Sulakshana has improved since her first appearance at Karwa Chauth.

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Wooster, you were right. Ranaji has accepted that Sulakshana is really who she claims to be and is not investigating it. But, he has decided that Gayatri holds his heart now.

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Posted: 9 years ago
Just watched the epi. RNJ has accepted the return of Sona?

RGD should have let him make the decision about the crowning. Wish RM had played dirty and said there's no auspicious day for months and bought some time. She played right into BRM's hands.
RGD is blaming her luck? Wasn't she the one who always wanted to change it?

Anyway, i'm lapping up all this so pseudo bigamy can be gone by this Friday.

New montage means RaGa breakup? I might have become a sadist, i'm looking forward to some angst and serious courtship
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Infofan

Najat and Shwets, thanks for the lovely collages.

Some confusing dialogues from Gayu today.

When did RNJ come to terms with his feelings for Gayu, he is now in love with her? When he had a vision of Gayu during the dance?

RaGa looked gorgeous today. Not much to say about the rest of the episode.

I saw a webisode today of some RNJ's ritual before his marriage when LR warns him about the trap laid for him. I still wish LR had not been turned evil.


@ Ami, RNJ looked mighty majboor today😆 Oh how I despise that word😆


nahinnn..not again

another majboor zee hero
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Posted: 9 years ago
the collages are lovey..they both look stunning
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Posted: 9 years ago
Will they atleast oust sulakshana as Diwali gift?
And keep BRM for later please.

I can't see dumbed down rnj for long.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: anobserver

A few observations:

  • During the coronation, Ranaji says that Sulakshana has come back for the people of Amerkot. A major distinction. I hope that Gayatri appreciated that.
O im sure she did hehe 😆
  • Gayatri herself asked him to crown Sulakshana as the Queen and made a grandiose declaration that she married him to become his wife, not the Queen. I can understand why they couldn't resist the impulse to put that in. But that was spoiled by her tears throughout the coronation. It was almost as if she was in tears at the coronation. Granted that the status of Queen is dependent on an acknowledgment of the woman as his wife, but when she herself asked him to crown her, why so many tears? I'd understand it if she'd teared up when he made that announcement about why Sulakashana would make a good - English-educated yet traditional and one who returned for the public almost as if she did take her royal duties quite seriously.
Gayatri wants to be both. But she wanted to make this selfless choice. Funny thing is that i actually think she had better chances if she focused on becoming the queen fist. Especially since Ranaji made it clear he wants Gayatri as his wife.
  • Now, Gayatri takes the decision that she cannot be the second wife. She does not grant him the time that he has requested. So, does she decide only because she wants to save him the agony of making a decision in such difficult circumstances?
That is just Gayatri's insecurities playing a game with her, feeling like she has to make a choice. And BRM is feeding it more and more. It also does seem like Ranaji is trying to hint her on this plan he has on his mind. Otherwise i don't understand what it is she should be waiting for.
Why is he not informing her, idk, but maybe he doesn't have a plan?
  • So, Badi Rani Maa was the second wife while the first wife was alive and allegedly not loved by her husband. That's one factor for her resentment against Ranaji's branch of the family. She played the emotional card with Gayatri knowing that she would win brownie points.
Exactly, but difference is that BRM was probabbly insane from the start, Gayatri isn't.
BRM is leaving some information out.
  • The actor playing Sulakshana has improved since her first appearance at Karwa Chauth.
Yes i agree she is doing her best.

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Wooster, you were right. Ranaji has accepted that Sulakshana is really who she claims to be and is not investigating it. But, he has decided that Gayatri holds his heart now.

This confirms why we don't even need the real Sula back anymore. Gayatri is a new chapter in his life he wants to keep chasing after.

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Posted: 9 years ago
But how long is he going to chase her? Now that he has accepted it is sulakshana .
I want to see what he decides. His heart wants Gayathri. Fine. He hass crowned sulakshana and she is the official wife now.

So it goes to show he would never be able to take a decision. Thats what I think. it would really be unfair of him to make Gayathri the doosri woman. Either Gayathri has to accept to be the doosri woman and live with him or he should leave her.

On another thought if it was really sulakshana she Would have stepped back I think. She was portrayed as a good human being.


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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: GRabIT


  • Now, Gayatri takes the decision that she cannot be the second wife. She does not grant him the time that he has requested. So, does she decide only because she wants to save him the agony of making a decision in such difficult circumstances?
That is just Gayatri's insecurities playing a game with her, feeling like she has to make a choice. And BRM is feeding it more and more. It also does seem like Ranaji is trying to hint her on this plan he has on his mind. Otherwise i don't understand what it is she should be waiting for.
Why is he not informing her, idk, but maybe he doesn't have a plan?


As Wooster posted on a few pages prior to this, he doesn't have a plan. In fact, his dialogues, when Badi Rani Maa approached him regarding the coronation, all but indicated this.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: BertieWooster


Yes indeed ...he said it very pointedly..but G didn't really seem to take note...not sure if she even got the point...

She didn't, did she? That's why she kept tearing up during the ceremony. Had she grasped that, she would have drawn strength from that even if she were on the verge of tearing up and not gone down the path of taking a decision.

Originally posted by: BertieWooster

I really didn't get that either..I would have much preferred to see stoic acceptance rather than tears...she went and made this magnanimous gesture to put the King out of the situation he was in...he was actually asking for time...having been magnanimous, it was imperative that she put up a brave face...that apart, whatever he was doing was in his capacity as King...I didn't get her sudden brainwave where she assumed that she would have to decide for the husband as well...where did that come from...

Anyway, either she should walk out and keep away until the mess is resolved...else, if she can't say no to her husband, she needs to stay strong and work it through...

In fact I did not like the direction in which they took RNJ himself in that scene...he should have been on autopilot...not giving anguished looks to G...the fandom may be affronted at this suggestion but I think a King holding court ought not to be exhibiting such emotion...If both had been stoic, with him looking at no one and her only at him, and then if RNJ's first reaction had come after Wilkinson's veiled insult of Gayathri and RM had stopped him thereafter, the scene would have had far greater impact...

The unspoken word and the unshed tear have far greater power to move..but maybe they don't yield TRPs

Re Ranaji during the ceremony: I agree they should have been royally stoic.

They are showing him as being concerned for every drop of tear that she sheds or every ounce of discomfort she may feel over this situation.

I liked it when it was in a relatively private circumstance. For instance, his decision to insist that she accompany them. And, at the lakeside, when she told him that he shouldn't have brought her to the picnic, he asked if he should have left her at the palace to stew over what possibly could be happening.


Originally posted by: BertieWooster


  • Now, Gayatri takes the decision that she cannot be the second wife. She does not grant him the time that he has requested. So, does she decide only because she wants to save him the agony of making a decision in such difficult circumstances?
She is acting in the time honored tradition of FLs on desi TV...they take all decisions and they are always right...she need not have interfered in the decision making process to begin with...and having told him even then that she would wait for the decision of the husband, didn't see what the trigger was that made her decide to take a call on behalf of the husband as well...seeing Sulakshana with him...but the King and Queen do have to make appearances...


I am not blaming G for wanting to leave...any self respecting woman would...why make those grandiose gestures at all...she could have just told him that it would kill her to see him with S...and asked him if he wanted her dead...she could've asked him to take his time...and said she would wait for him forever...but not in front of his eyes so he would not be pressured into a decision even before the time was opportune...

In this track, while Gayatri's actions and words may appeal to some, it does come across as inconsistent. Her actions and words appear to belie all her grandiose declarations.

She asks him repeatedly to decide promptly whereas she had claimed that she would wait for him forever because she understood what first love was. While that was before the first wife reappeared, a woman who understood what first love was would likely have allowed him some more time unilaterally. But she was right in raising the issue and asking that it be determined. The only thing is that even that felt a little inconsistent when she was the one who lied and claimed to be the wife of Ranaji's friend. All motives aside, an untruth is an untruth.

She does not grant him his request for time though she had earlier claimed that she would grant him his every request.

She displays a lack of trust by taking away the opportunity to decide, an opportunity which she herself had granted him, when she claims to trust him.


Originally posted by: BertieWooster

That decision was never hard to make for him...he had made it even when he told G on the day S appeared that they had a long battle ahead but he was hopeful that he would be able to fight resolution...even the reappearance of Sulakshana could not dislodge the thought that G was his wife and that she awaited him to break her fast...he had his reservations but BRM's words and then that mannerism that she displayed sort of sealed things...he did not see any reason to doubt since BRM had already conducted all investigations ...he never thought on the lines of a conspiracy...he certainly would have but for BRM's endorsement...such is his faith in the old lady!

Actually seeing Sulakshana in the flesh, even though she is fake, seems to have done wonders for him...it has cleared all the cobwebs in his mind...but to me, his complete acceptance of her came at that moment when she generously told him she would wait for him forever...she appreciated his pain over his first love because she understood first love only too well herself..!

Most likely. We saw an even greater change in his behaviour after that.

Edited by anobserver - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: -Sush-


Lovely write up, Chick! beautiful collages Shwets!!

Yes...now that I know it is not real Sula...I am more motivated to watch...It is not the dreaded polygamy track!

I agree, Jayna ...right? Yes...she has an elegance about her...very fitting to be the royal and as per the nice image RNJ was holding of her!! Today she did the cunning ...and the flipping personalities well too! I liked her acting...

Gayatri is connecting with me...but RNJ is not! This is the first time I am not able to "feel" what he is feeling...something is amiss...They built him up with a high sense of honor and duty...the intensity in that part is missing a bit...I didn't pay attention ...is it the same director...or someone different?

Agree about the attire! Lovely for both! Nehru jackets ar the way to go!..


Sush,

RNJ is actually fine for me. I am on the other side of the fence regarding this..Every time Sid starts showing the emotions, I want to run...That is not RNJ for me. I don't think it is for the actor either...I'd rather not see the tears and the pain in his expressions...it makes him more human , probably...but it makes him look weak. Its not that I don't accept men portraying their emotions so well...just that I am more used to men who hide them.😆

Who is Ranaji? He is the person Gayatri described to Sulakshna...He comes across as an akdu..like he himself admitted to her under the stars- his emotions have been blunted by the war and the demise of his first wife. He comes across as harsh at first, if you care to look beyond the aura he projects as a king.


In the light of that, to me Ranaji is still stunned. Yes, Sulakshna's arrival has stunned him into inaction, like BRM pointed out. The man cannot make sense..because lets face it- what is his way out? - Request Sulakshna to kindly leave..but would that be fair to her, considering she wouldn't even be accorded the respect a widow got in those days? And secondly, would she be able to handle the trauma of this truth? Thirdly, would she agree to it, considering she has been throwing tantrums ever since she got back.

On the other hand, he has Gayatri, to whom his heart belongs. He cannot let go of her in any way. He is selfish- Yes. When did he claim he was not? As Indravardhan, he wants to choose only Gayatri..but as Ranaji, he cannot abandon his first wife! Clearly, the man has to choose between duty and love...neither choice is going to be fair now...

Either Sulakshna has to agree to leave- but she is his lawfully wedded wife...and therefore the queen of the land, accepted by the British Government...Or Gayatri has to adjust to the fact that his heart and soul would always belong only to her, even if Sulakshna had the title. To me, it doesn't look like Ranaji has much of a choice here. 😆 All my sympathies lie with him. 😉




I loved this montage. 👏 Very symbolic, unlike the QH one which was real and terrible to look at.
Who threw the stone? Has to be BRM...

If slapgate is still in the cards, I guess this is the MU Sid was talking about weeks back when the love story moved at express speed. This is a MU that has been programmed into him from his infancy! 😆 If G is going to level some vague allegation against BRM who is any day better at histrionics...RNJ is not going to believe her. It all depends on how researched her facts are and how she presents it...If that slap happens, that is the biggest crack in their relationship. RNJ is going to resent the fact that she accused his beloved grandmother, and Gayatri is not going to forgive him either, I hope..

So then, this was the purpose of bringing Sulakshna? Two birds with one stone? Let RNJ be exorcised off any vestiges of Sona's ghost (respectfully)...and also create an opening to pit BRM right in between Gayatri and Ranaji?

Patni toh hum aapko rehne nahi denge? BRM's chaal is all too clear. Every time G spoke in favour of Sulakshna, it was after BRM manipulated her emotionally..with folded hands and sweet bhaashan...😉 Gayatri might know the old lady's real intentions, but I do hope it will be long before she can convince RNJ..until then, the crack stays. I am also hoping she can expose Sulakshna soon..I am not in a mood to watch another rerun of Kumkum Bhagya...Yeh Vaada Reha is airing the same track too..Please..not longer than a month...or can I be greedy and ask for a diwali gift? 😃😆

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