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Posted: 9 years ago
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@-Sush- : Admire your punctuality in opening the thread, so others can choose to pen their thoughts. Big thank you.

@ Shwets : As always, your collages are superlative. No time to play out the VM, but kudos to the song selection. Apt. Beautiful album too. Mohit Chauhan shines. I also thought of "Tere haath mein, mera haath ho..." Sonu Nigam ahh...what a voice.

@BertieWooster : I echo with most of your comments.

My views on last nights episode :

1) Hand holding : It was offered by Rana Deo post their freedom. Gayatri accepted it. I saw it as a protective gesture on the part of Rana Deo, as he accepts that the Queen is his responsibility and she can't get into more trouble. The second time post the comet passing by, it was instinctive. He cannot leave w/out her and it was time to reach the Mahal before more trouble comes. 😃 Basic instinct. 😉 You know, even today if I am crossing the road with my Mom, she will hold out her hand and take mine! She feels responsible that I am ensured of safety. Its a primitive feeling, so I didn't read much into it. Oh yes, Gayatri was flying high...

2) The freedom fighters : I didn't understand the relevance of this insertion. It came to an abrupt end. If it was to make Rana Deo realise that people are dying during the freedom struggle, then the coming episodes need to show a mature King worried about the Satyagraha and Non-cooperation movement and how Rana Deo would engage himself in it!

3) Maya : She was ineffective today. I failed to understand why Gayatri went looking for her - her monologue said something about her closeness to Bansi. Was she looking for tips from Maya on how to make a marriage work? 😲 And ends up in trouble! 😕 Well, in which case, she is more than an "idiot"... 🤣

4) Rajmata : She is finally back. The glances and smiles exchanged between her and Gayatri had different meanings. While Rajmata felt extremely pleased with herself that her plan worked, Gayatri was triumphant that she listened to Rajmata and showed patience. It worked! Rana Deo did see the looks and smiles exchange and is likely to brood about it.

5) Dori on a choli : The scene is likely to be played tonight and I don't want the usual song to be played. Was fed up last night. 😡 I see a very cautious Rana Deo in the frame moving towards Gayatri, not a smitten one or the relaxed persona when they were sharing meals. Has he started suspecting Gayatri again? If he walks away after making an effort to tie the Dori, but "w/out tying it", there is more to come! But, I want this conversation or arguement to be played out differently. I hope the Creatives don't tear them apart, that would be suicidal. 🥱 Maybe, oneliners with sarcasm, to show his frustration and ire. Because, the King is not a fool to keep accusing his Queen and he has already accepted that Gayatri has finally invaded his privacy. So, the Creatives could instead, show a cautious Rana Deo watching his Queen's every move. I think he should give her the benefit of doubt. Wasn't trust there when he spent so much time with her alone? How can that just disappear into thin air? 😃

6) I read some "telescope" comments. You may not be able to see a comet with your naked eye. The scene could hav been played post return to the Palace in the terrace with a "telescope"! 😃



-Rekha
Edited by Danseuse - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: -Sush-


Being over zealot and controlling is not a good thing...The problem with somepeople is that they try to control everything...and this backfires...RM is going to be the cause of their next MU...like I had said a few days back...RNJ will find out...that it was planned ...and he is going to be LIVID...and angry at everyone and anyone...including himself for feeling the way he is feeling for Gayatri...time to reset the dial will come again...until then...let it peak...and let's enjoy...



What a natakbaaz RM is...poor RNJ...no wonder he has trust issues...😕








Agreed. RM is controlling and strategic .. for her .. the ends justify any means. I can see a tattered, much read copy of Sun Tzu on her night stand. Was probably required reading for Yashoda as a condition of employment as well!
That moment when RM says that she had heard from Yashoda all that had happened and how sorry she is about the whole thing.. it does not appear to ring true for RNJ, he has this "aha, Oh really" expression ... and there is that curious "what was that all about" expression .. when G and RM smile at each other.
I am not so sure that it is a "Mars I do not understand Venuses" look as mentioned elsewhere on the forum. He is definitely thinking..It's more a "I need to get to the bottom of whatever this is" .. expression.

There is likely to be a even nastier MU.. that's probably how desi soaps play out .. plenty twists and turns to increase the ratings. For the next few episodes he has no time time to think, the man is distracted, he is seeking out G in her room when he is not with his horses or his guns and helping her tie her blouse.(No maids to help the Rani?)

Here is my wishing thinking and how I would like this particular MU if it occurs to play out ..

He finds out RM is involved in the shooting. He does for a second believe that Gayathri is in cahoots with RM as well. He is livid and upset with himself for trusting her. He then pauses and reflects. He has jumped to conclusions before about G, he had behaved at his nastiest best with her.. it almost killed his wife/Rani.
He hates the man he had become in his grief and suspicions .. he is ready to move forward and hope for a future with G. He has gotten to know her in the past few days .. she is naive, idealistic, compassionate, loyal and loving (an idiot too 😊).
..he also acknowledges that she loves him and that he is not deserving of that love. I believe he will treat her love for him more responsibly now. The man that is slowly evolving is sure to decide that she is not capable of such deception .. there is that certain guilelessness and transparency about her, he tells himself .. she is not involved .. just my Mataji's usual war tactics.
Edited by eruditely - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Dear Sush,
Like everyone else in the forum.. the last exchange of smile between RM and Gayatri left a bitter taste after such a sweet episode.. RNJ expressions like.. why are they smiling at each other.. ?? Yes and as experienced we are with our Desi soaps.. the tried and tested formula.. a big MU on the way.. bcoz.. Ranaji does not use his brsin sometimes... Like Gayatri said yesterday.. aap toh sub kuch ho jaane ke baad bhi nahi sochte ho" that was apt...

I dont understand why they have to show MUs in first place??? Cant they just show that though RNJ finds out about RM s plan.. he does not blame Gayatri... but we know.. MU is on the way.. too sugar laden episodes means a lot of Bitter episodes on the way.. be prepared... I would like if they just show.. ideological differences .. may be in handling the British.. or may be any situation.. like Gayatri is just impulsive and not manipulative.. lacks the diplomacy yet... so slowly her learning the politics and Rajniti.. but still staying her own self.. .. there can be difference of opinion.. without bigger MUS .. Arguments and nok-Jhoks are fun to watch.. seriously I liked Day before episode more than yeserdays.. How can one just smile after attending a funeral and going through so much of emotional stress... I could not connect... somewhat...

If ST and CVS are reading your thread.. pl dont show a major MU.. I hope RNJ has seen the good nature of Gayatri... If Mu then again TRPS will drop... negativitly takes away TRPS.. so I dont know how they are going to play this.. hope they dont spoil a wonderful love story..

We would love to see Gayatri learning English.. either from Ranaji or Swarna.. ,learning to shoot.. horse riding etc... ..

BTW your post is always too good and Shwetas collages compliment your post.. Great Job inspte of the busy schedule you both manage to do such a wonderful job... Kudos to you both...
Edited by neesha119 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#44
Again nice work with all the collages and posts.
The Raga moments and everything else today was great, untill the ending scene.

What is going to bother me with this is that even though Rajmata is wrong for the things she does, should that stray away from Ranaji not trusting Gayatri anymore? As far as we know, Gayatri knows nothing about Rajmata's heavy input. Also as viewers we might have to thank her also. Without her input: no Raga scenes at this stage!

However, if CV turns it on Gayatri and finds out and doesn't tell Ranaji asap, i will feel disappointed. Ranaji would have every right to be upset.

Eventually its another bump on the road for Raga, and it will get resolved. For now ill enjoy the romance, but then again i don't mind them fighting either.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Nice Analysis Sush and lovely collages shwets
For me love story is going too fast.
They need to slow down the pace
And yes I think big misunderstanding is on the way.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: Infofan

AAAhhh, lau the song... great choice... and Faraq padta hai... ❤️ been a while since we heard that.


BBL

I liked the episode but not as much as yesterday's. I have to ask - Ranaji, aap theek hai? From taking care of her out of guilt to jhappies... ... dude caught a fast train to lau station in one epi



You had me cracking up 😆

I am not so sure it is love yet. He is beginning to care .. on the edge of the precipice waiting to fall. I also see that hand holding as.. hey, I am ready to move forward and hopeful about starting this journey with you from this day forward. However I agree with everyone else .. the funeral in the background and just steps away is in pure bad taste.

I see that faraq padtha hain as a 'you matter to me' .. 'not as I am in love with you'.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Sush thanks for the pots.In a hurry, will try the song later.

Shwets, lovely pics.

I'm a disgruntled customer today. enjoyed the episode till RaGa freed themselves, from then it went down-hill. everything seemed disjointed and thrown together haphazardly.

Posted my thoughts on Bertie's thread here it goes

I was so pissed y'day.I couldn't believe the much touted freedom-fighter angle has come and gone in under 10 minutes.

I don't know who did what, i found RaGa looking at each other & watching the shooting star in the backdrop of a still burning pyre totally macabre🤢

This was the King & Queen,so moved by the plight of their people they were crying in each other' arms and few steps away, making moony eyes at each other.

Where is the resolve to be a better King & Queen.That was the point of this outing right?

They should have carried on the melancholic mood a little further and shown the shooting start as a sign of hope and new beginning, probably on their way back in the car or something.

First time i didn't enjoy the romance in this show.

They rushed to show a Raj Mata,who seemed to have become a fashion victim.That could have waited for today.
Edited by simran_singh_24 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sush-


Yes...that smile was off at that moment..could have been bad editing...she was shown smiling in the close up shot but somber in the very next long shot...I think the smile actually came later when he held her hand...and the close up shot could have come from there...
I think RNJ is naturally suspicious of RM...from today she gave a good reason ...why...she deliberately held Gs arm at the exact place to show off she was innocent ...and to see RNJs reaction to judge where they were in their relationship and if the plan had worked...what a deceptive woman...poor RNJ...he can't trust anyone...or hasn't been able to...for good reason ...

Skipped LR scene...


Agree ...today's episode had issues...although many isolated moments were enjoyable...
I enjoyed the banter and comedy...


@bold

No Sush...if you notice the smile began even while they were walking...editing is terrible...that is a different story of course...there is no shot to shot continuity...!

I understand the point you have made elsewhere about hope...but the hope has been to tinged with sadness given the context...

Gayathri had just seen a man die probably for the first time in her life...she is no war veteran like her husband who must have seen countless killed in battle...she had just stood by the funeral pyre and offered solace to his grieving widow...

And then she smiles and is moon-eyed? It was an 'excuse me while I go and puke' moment! Sorry if my language is harsh. Forget her being a Queen, she is a sensitive girl! How could she?

What was the director doing? How did he let that pass? Drashti's expressions should have been tinged with melancholy! She is more than capable of it! How did they let it go so wrong!

RNJ, at the end of the day, was seen being contemplative! He looked at the skies as if seeking an answer. And, like you pointed out, maybe the shooting star symbolized hope even in a sorrowful moment like that! His smile was tentative even when he turned to see her. Even when he took her hand, he did not turn and look at her. It was like gaining support from her and giving it back to her in turn. Not enjoying the moonlight and her proximity!


I wish they had not rushed that moment! The pyre made it so distasteful, they turned a beautiful moment into a W*F moment!

Yes, RNJ is naturally wary of RM. He knows how manipulative she can be! He is not going to like G confiding in RM or keeping secrets from him! He is a very possessive man as well and will expect her complete allegiance and confidence. Let's see where it goes!
Edited by BertieWooster - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sush-



<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Yes, they cut ...you are an idiot dialogue and the reaction to it...</font>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Probably thought it will be offensive to us Americans...😆</font>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">I know my kids think it is an offensive word...🤔</font>


<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Watching the hand holding scene again...I think what they were probably trying to show ...that RNJ was moved by the dialogue of losing a partner...and held her hand without thinking...that's why it was so close to the funeral scene too...Again they are showing that for him it wasn't a conscious romantic expression...but just a subconscious move...I think that's the context...Gayatri of course takes it otherwise...</font>

<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Although this time I am not convinced...they managed to convey this well...if this is where they were going...</font>



I'm not so sure.. The precap def indicates that RNJ was feeling just as many if not more sparks during the moment than Gayatri.. Pretty sure this was intended to be a turning point for him..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Spoilers indicate that DD will be dancing to dola re dola soon in the show. Looking forward as DD is a decent dancer.
Edited by grumpydwarf - 9 years ago

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