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Posted: 9 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: -Sush-


Yup...too fast...But they did announce they will get complete the cycle by Diwali...so the question is ...will the MU happen before Diwali?

Major blunder placing that lovely moment so close to the funeral site!

Hand holding was early in the story...but did flow naturally...both actors were great in that scene taken separately from the funeral...


The freedom fighters were not such good actors in my opinion...didn't have the impact...or perhaps it was because their story didn't have the right amount of Justice...

I am sure the theme will come back...,


They might not have been good actors Sush but I do there is some purpose behind showing the whole thing apart from showing a few RaGa moments..because the change in their relationship was well established even before Gayatri got caught.. I do think they could have presented their story in a different manner..just a dialogue that it was a trap and everyone died didn't justify it..even mala's dialogues at the pyre were off

@MU: with the words of the challenge, that they will light diya together..I was hoping the CVs would show RaGa as friends and companions doing that rather than rish the falling in love.. Knowing STs flair for drama..I reckon the MU will unfold in Diwali episodes..once Gayatri has been lulled into believing RNJ loves her...I hope I am wrong though
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Shwets-


Thanks Nandy ...Did you watch BL ? Don't discuss the show on this thread .



Hmm, and just got watching ETR on tv. They cut scenes and dialogues again!!!.

Chalo, off to bed now. GN>
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Infofan



Hmm, and just got watching ETR on tv. They cut scenes and dialogues again!!!.

Chalo, off to bed now. GN>


Yes, they cut ...you are an idiot dialogue and the reaction to it...
Probably thought it will be offensive to us Americans...😆
I know my kids think it is an offensive word...🤔


Watching the hand holding scene again...I think what they were probably trying to show ...that RNJ was moved by the dialogue of losing a partner...and held her hand without thinking...that's why it was so close to the funeral scene too...Again they are showing that for him it wasn't a conscious romantic expression...but just a subconscious move...I think that's the context...Gayatri of course takes it otherwise...

Although this time I am not convinced...they managed to convey this well...if this is where they were going...
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Posted: 9 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: -Sush-



What a lovely VM! What a lovely song!! 👏
YOU ARE AWESOME Shwets! Must post it as an independent thread...really! I urge you!


Sush ,

I love A R Rehman compostions ...Glad you liked the VM and the song 😃
Not making an Independent post simply because don't want members to feel obligated to comment on the thread ...I enjoy the process of VM making and sharing with you'll. You guys have been great showering me with lovely comments ...Thank You .
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@ blue - exactly Ami, they console Mala and walk away stealing glances, holding hands with the BG music. It was beyond a kuch bhi moment. How was that even romantic with a funeral pyre in the back? If they genuinely affected by Bansi's death, their freedom struggle which they should considering their own thoughts about the British, it is not a time for sawariya or to romance or whatever it was that was going on then.

Yes, hope they show RaGA being inspired to do something for the freedom movement.


Watching the episode now... again they cut dialogues in the US version!!! Why??


I know right..
If they were so adamant on making RaGa see the comet, they could have done that after sometime..not with Mala crying in the background
Show them contemplating the fighters death on their way back walking in silence and coincidentally seeing the comet

Even Mala's dialogues were a little off for that matter..too contrived
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Posted: 9 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: -Shwets-


Ah well. I hope you get to work from home soon again..I am greedy that way 😆

@PH: ii don't think anyone was expecting such good episodes especially with the ones last week..I hope they continue being more of less consistent hence forth..though it seems like a tall order for Indian soaps

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hello,
Thanks for opening the post, Sush... appreciate your effort despite the many demands on your time!

Lovely collages, Shweta...but I knew the beautiful images would inspire you...so they have..~

Again, I am going to appreciate the DOP today..the scene in captivity and then the shooting star scene...in fact every thing was so beautifully shot...this is one man who does his job sincerely and passionately no matter what anyone else is doing or not...all credit to him for that...!

I really liked the alert warrior in RNJ coming to the fore at the beginning of the episode.He sensed, he smelt trouble. And I really loved that hard look he gave the rebels when they cornered him!

Given that they held his wife captive, there was no way he could take a go at them. Again the piercing look he gave G when he was dragged into the room, as if to make sure she was not hurt, was very good!

G smelt a rat since morning? Funny we never saw even take even a single sniff! Anyway they decided to generate some comedy. Comedy is all fine but when you are moving at a breakneck speed, it kind of derails the process...! I did not particularly enjoy the lighter moment today!

Poor RNJ seems to be losing all semblance of control. He was a hair's breadth away from a confession today! Although it has been written large on his face for the last two days! Anyway, they broke into a one minute plus song sequence. Their emotions could be enjoyed in isolation but in the context of the scene, again it felt like very loose writing!

RNJ then turned cheer leader for G and encouraged her to free them both. His eyes were dripping with concern and anguish over her pain! Nice that!

Okay, so the rebels are all dead! Again a moment for RNJ to throw a comforting arm around G.

But what was the point of this track? Why even fashion the capture? How is it going to impact the main plot line? Was it done merely to fill time for a couple of days or this there going to be any greater relevance?. I really hope there will be cause otherwise it will seem like they touched important historically relevant events merely to provide a backdrop to a romantic meltdown! Romance is wonderful but a good, intriguing story is just as important. Hope the creatives remember!

Again, the dhoomketu moment! Beautiful seen in isolation. But again romance against the backdrop of a funeral pyre? Seriously? It was both insensitive and in poor taste.

I frankly cringed!

Couldn't they have taken that bit of time to get them away from the scene, both immersed in their own thoughts of what had happened! RNJ is a king dammit, not some lovesick calf! Respect the gravity of the moment before you plunge them headlong into romance!

I get G would be thrilled that they got to see the dhoomketu together! But the smile seemed so out of place right upfront. It was a solemn moment! It would've been nice if it had been treated with a little more gravity before it could've evolved into romance. Timing, context, wish the creatives would not forget either!

RNJ staring into the skies, wondering if he was indeed blessed enough to have found love and peace a second time, was beautiful. So was G's looking at him almost uncertainly, wondering if this was not just a dream and then the tentative smile at each other. The leads were both wonderful in that part but at least for me, they were mistimed moments. If only they could've transitioned more beautifully into it!

Sawariya was done thrice over in a single episode. Sorry but three song sequences in a 20 odd minute episode is stretching it a bit too far!

So they are back home and RM is there to extend a warm welcome! RNJ is super protective and irritated when he sees his mother grasping G's arm in the exact same spot where she was injured. When RM sees her son's concern surface, she feels a sense of euphoria that is reflected in the smile she shares with her daughter-in-law. RNJ'e eyes narrow at that. I find it a bit too far fetched to imagine that he immediately infers that they are in a coalition! But apparently that is how this writer is! I can only say that I hope this is not the case at least in this show! It would be silly after all this for him to go back to square one. It would nullify the progress in the relationship and the story over the last few weeks. I hope they won't be stupid enough to do that.RNJ is a smart man! Obviously he would notice everything that goes on under his nose! So the part about his noticing was fine! But could it not be the miffed expression of a man who feels left out of what seems like a shared moment between his mother and his wife? A tinge of possessiveness and jealousy? Hope it can be something as normal as that!

More importantly, this is a story of a king and a queen. Let them please do some royal stuff and not misunderstand each other at every turn. Let their differences be over larger issues. Please, please don't pack this show with the repeat silly, MUs that are part of every other show!

So, we are back to tying doris in the precap. Let us hope he is actually feeling all that passion that seems to be tautening his facial muscles!

Sorry if my post is a bit of a dampener. While each of these episodes have been relatively fluid and emotion filled as stand alones, missing the larger flow! It needs to be smoother, less jerkier! The editing also needs attention. Hope they pay attention to the details!

The Swarna related scenes were very lax and repetitive. Laksh was going out for some 'nain matka' and then he came back to smear chilli powder on her face? It was just horrible and completely unnecessary. Kunwar Chacha and Chachi had already decided on a course of action. Why the unwanted scenes instead of progressing with that? Priya Tandon was very impressive in the few minutes she got, kudos to the actor!

There are times when the writing is brilliant and times when it is absolutely insipid. They need more consistency, precision and a greater grip over the writing!

You have two wonderful leads, gorgeous and great performers as well. Milking their chemistry for all it is worth is wonderful! But please give them the right backdrop! Focus on the story telling a bit more. Let it not become a random sequence of brilliant scenes with some insipid ones thrown in between
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Shwets-






Song : Tum Ho Saath mere ...

Film : Rockstar









Beautiful job Di! Raga seem to be inspiring you lately!!!

Updated page 1!!!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@shwets

Thank you for the absolutely lovely VM...you wove a beautiful tapestry out of their moments...After the intial euphoria of the romance, was not too happy about the episode...

Thank you for making me buy into their love story again...by telling the story far more precisely and evocatively .👏⭐️
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: BertieWooster

Hello,

Thanks for opening the post, Sush... appreciate your effort despite the many demands on your time!

Lovely collages, Shweta...but I knew the beautiful images would inspire you...so they have..~

Again, I am going to appreciate the DOP today..the scene in captivity and then the shooting star scene...in fact every thing was so beautifully shot...this is one man who does his job sincerely and passionately no matter what anyone else is doing or not...all credit to him for that...!

I really liked the alert warrior in RNJ coming to the fore at the beginning of the episode.He sensed, he smelt trouble. And I really loved that hard look he gave the rebels when they cornered him!

Given that they held his wife captive, there was no way he could take a go at them. Again the piercing look he gave G when he was dragged into the room, as if to make sure she was not hurt, was very good!

G smelt a rat since morning? Funny we never saw even take even a single sniff! Anyway they decided to generate some comedy. Comedy is all fine but when you are moving at a breakneck speed, it kind of derails the process...! I did not particularly enjoy the lighter moment today!

Poor RNJ seems to be losing all semblance of control. He was a hair's breadth away from a confession today! Although it has been written large on his face for the last two days! Anyway, they broke into a one minute plus song sequence. Their emotions could be enjoyed in isolation but in the context of the scene, again it felt like very loose writing!

RNJ then turned cheer leader for G and encouraged her to free them both. His eyes were dripping with concern and anguish over her pain! Nice that!

Okay, so the rebels are all dead! Again a moment for RNJ to throw a comforting arm around G.

But what was the point of this track? Why even fashion the capture? How is it going to impact the main plot line? Was it done merely to fill time for a couple of days or this there going to be any greater relevance?. I really hope there will be cause otherwise it will seem like they touched important historically relevant events merely to provide a backdrop to a romantic meltdown! Romance is wonderful but a good, intriguing story is just as important. Hope the creatives remember!

Again, the dhoomketu moment! Beautiful seen in isolation. But again romance against the backdrop of a funeral pyre? Seriously? It was both insensitive and in poor taste.

I frankly cringed!

Couldn't they have taken that bit of time to get them away from the scene, both immersed in their own thoughts of what had happened! RNJ is a king dammit, not some lovesick calf! Respect the gravity of the moment before you plunge them headlong into romance!

I get G would be thrilled that they got to see the dhoomketu together! But the smile seemed so out of place right upfront. It was a solemn moment! It would've been nice if it had been treated with a little more gravity before it could've evolved into romance. Timing, context, wish the creatives would not forget either!

RNJ staring into the skies, wondering if he was indeed blessed enough to have found love and peace a second time, was beautiful. So was G's looking at him almost uncertainly, wondering if this was not just a dream and then the tentative smile at each other. The leads were both wonderful in that part but at least for me, they were mistimed moments. If only they could've transitioned more beautifully into it!

Sawariya was done thrice over in a single episode. Sorry but three song sequences in a 20 odd minute episode is stretching it a bit too far!

So they are back home and RM is there to extend a warm welcome! RNJ is super protective and irritated when he sees his mother grasping G's arm in the exact same spot where she was injured. When RM sees her son's concern surface, she feels a sense of euphoria that is reflected in the smile she shares with her daughter-in-law. RNJ'e eyes narrow at that. I find it a bit too far fetched to imagine that he immediately infers that they are in a coalition! But apparently that is how this writer is! I can only say that I hope this is not the case at least in this show! It would be silly after all this for him to go back to square one. It would nullify the progress in the relationship and the story over the last few weeks. I hope they won't be stupid enough to do that.RNJ is a smart man! Obviously he would notice everything that goes on under his nose! So the part about his noticing was fine! But could it not be the miffed expression of a man who feels left out of what seems like a shared moment between his mother and his wife? A tinge of possessiveness and jealousy? Hope it can be something as normal as that!

More importantly, this is a story of a king and a queen. Let them please do some royal stuff and not misunderstand each other at every turn. Let their differences be over larger issues. Please, please don't pack this show with the repeat silly, MUs that are part of every other show!

So, we are back to tying doris in the precap. Let us hope he is actually feeling all that passion that seems to be tautening his facial muscles!

Sorry if my post is a bit of a dampener. While each of these episodes have been relatively fluid and emotion filled as stand alones, missing the larger flow! It needs to be smoother, less jerkier! The editing also needs attention. Hope they pay attention to the details!

The Swarna related scenes were very lax and repetitive. Laksh was going out for some 'nain matka' and then he came back to smear chilli powder on her face? It was just horrible and completely unnecessary. Kunwar Chacha and Chachi had already decided on a course of action. Why the unwanted scenes instead of progressing with that? Priya Tandon was very impressive in the few minutes she got, kudos to the actor!

There are times when the writing is brilliant and times when it is absolutely insipid. They need more consistency, precision and a greater grip over the writing!

You have two wonderful leads, gorgeous and great performers as well. Milking their chemistry for all it is worth is wonderful! But please give them the right backdrop! Focus on the story telling a bit more. Let it not become a random sequence of brilliant scenes with some insipid ones thrown in between


Yes...that smile was off at that moment..could have been bad editing...she was shown smiling in the close up shot but somber in the very next long shot...I think the smile actually came later when he held her hand...and the close up shot could have come from there...
I think RNJ is naturally suspicious of RM...from today she gave a good reason ...why...she deliberately held Gs arm at the exact place to show off she was innocent ...and to see RNJs reaction to judge where they were in their relationship and if the plan had worked...what a deceptive woman...poor RNJ...he can't trust anyone...or hasn't been able to...for good reason ...

Skipped LR scene...


Agree ...today's episode had issues...although many isolated moments were enjoyable...
I enjoyed the banter and comedy...

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