Do we live in society that praises a human as God?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hello there,

It's my second thought-provoking topic of the day. This episode really had me thinking about the medical system. I have noticed this trend everywhere (regardless of it being in America or in India). We tend to look so highly at professions such as Doctors or any medical experts. We tend to think that if it came from a doctor than it must be true. I have noticed time and time again that people don't ask question when a guy in lab coat comes up to you and give you a prescription. They may ask what the drug is for, but they never go online to check if that's the right drug because they take the doctor's word for it.

Similarly, I have noticed the same in this show. Kamla told Kalpi in past episodes that the doctor knows what she's talking about when Kalpi tried to ask questions regarding the drug. It was as if there's a blind faith on a person you don't even know. I know and I understand that people trust you because you are a medical specialist and you have done your degree and got your education down. I understand that a medical specialist deserves that! I seriously am not insulting that profession so please try not to get offended and see my point here. I am just saying that no one is perfect or is freed from making mistakes. I know that it's unlikely to make big mistakes in any field because of the consequences one has to suffer for doing the wrong, but it's still possible.

In our society (especially the Desi parents that I know in American) really look up to professions like Doctors and Engineers. There are some other really great profession out there but it seems non-existent to those parents. I am asking this questions now - why is that? Why are these two fields, especially medical field give so much importance to the point that people don't even think of asking questions? Why are we so prone to give in and be submissive to the authority figures that has lab-coats on?

If only Kalpi went deeper somehow or Kamla asked what drug the doctor gave to Raghav's mom, they could have found out if it was the right drug but the didn't. Again I am not criticizing anyone here. I am just saying what I see. It's the same in US. People don't tend to ask questions here either and they end up suffering sometimes. Here, insurance company screw us over when we need treatment of any sort and they don't want to spend that much money so they decide that you're not valuable enough. And then what happens? The person doesn't even know that he/she is getting screwed and just keeps quiet. Why is that? Why don't we ask questions?

In this society, we are supposed to be the revolutionary generation, no? We are the ones who will grow up to become the society tomorrow. So I request to each of you from now on, think about this. Not only that, please ask questions! For all you know, it can save a life or millions of your money. I am not saying just ask question of the treatment from a doctor but from anyone. Doctors are very valued and they should be because they deserve it! But everyone is a human being and anyone can make mistakes. Asking questions can lead to something way more productive in the future. It can solve so many problems and lead to a better government. The children of today become the leaders of tomorrow - so start asking questions before you get into anything serious. It's your right as a human being! You've earned that so you might as well use it.

PS: Sorry if this offended anyone. I am not bashing on medical field or any doctors because I have family members in that field. I highly respect them and I know the commitment needed for that field. I only pointed them out because the show pointed them out. I value engineers and doctors for all their effort but I am just trying to make a point here of what I have seen so far. This relates to any field and extends to the government policies themselves. Hope the thoughts get through.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Shona.. today is sooo stuck with that scene of Gauri.. that today, I don't see her interested in two wonderful RagNa Scenes...😲

But since, I am on IF just to reduce my stress, this medical topics aren't my cup of tea..

I am talking from Indian View over here, and I could see, that my ideas on illteracy wouldn't make sense to people in USA.. but here are my thoughts on on title and other aspects..
But yes... It's not about society... problem is of literacy..!! And particularly.. when I watch EMA, at times, I see, Poor people/ people from chawl.. treat each and everyone like they are gods..!!
I had pointed out this a month back during holi sequence in EMA... how Raghav was welcomes to chawl, and he sat there in corner like Boss.. that whole scene was over done... They treat a common man so uncommonly... that person tends to develop that rubaab of his own, and ego.. which Raghav has.. kinds like I am Raghav Singhaniya... and had this person.. Raghav been some negative character... he would have taken all this *respect* he gets from chawl people in exchange of easiest way to get Kalpi in his life, without even forcing her to confess..!! But he is shown to be a good guy..
That's whole show aspect...
Imagine.. in reality, if any particular, or leader is worshiped soo much.. who wouldn't enjoy it??? Complete misuse of power.. People are often dependent on someone or the other..!! in reality.. people aren't that goody goody... (Lol.. infact Raghav is goody goody only for Kalpi's sake..)

Now coming to Neetu and Kamla.. Kamla feels helpless soo much that she has got her dependency on someone like Neetu, inspite of having a daughter like Kalpana..!!
I wished Kalpi would have given her all this idea of doctor and having maushi get treated... But CVs grr..!! and hence that trust.. on neetu leads her to trust that doctor..

Yes, it's profession... I am not athetist.. I do believe in god, but God exist in every human being ... So why not worship them all... Every field has their own expert... At times, you have no other option but to follow their advices.. Consulting too many docs at times leads to added confusions... And you cannot literally expect God to come down on Earth and tell u exact solution.. he has already given you all solutions.. you need to look around and find them.. they are in pious books for every religion..!!! But then, final choice is yours.. And if any engineer tells me to have this medicine, I wouldn't because they are not people of expert.. no matter how much do I admire a person, when he suggests me how to repair my phone... It's profession, its expertise that makes you follow all sort of advices..!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Shona!!! I agree wid some part of what u said...

N ya even 2day in India medical n engeering r given more importance than any other profession...
Even in my family though I ws interested in mass media n communication I ws asked 2 take up medicine... (it hs loads of competition n d pressure iz at peak)...
dere r many families who donot want 2 send girls 2 work n just keep dem chained... N if I wouldn't hav got tru medicine I would hav been sitting in sum kitchen nw instead of njoying.,... (tru fact of many girls in India even though their family luks modernized)...


But I truely believe a doctor's profession is next 2 God's... He really works v.hard 4 d wellbeing of his patients... N ya u r always welcomed 2 cross verify a doctor's prescription... U can go online n check d composition... (Kalpi was rite in asking d prescription... But even Kamala ws not wrong in trusting d doctor coz she thinks d doctor iz rite... The 1 at fault here iz d doctor coz she's done wrong 2 her profession... )
But always looking at a doctor wid a doubt is really wrong dear... Asking him abt prescriptions iz never wrong as itz ur rite...
I'm not saying tat a doctor can b always rite... even he's a human n he makes mistakes but tat doesn't mean u look lowly at him... A doctor iz a person who saves ur lyf n so he's profession is considered next 2 a God...

Being a doctor iz really 1 of d toughtest jobs... coz ur prorioty will b ur patients n then ur Family... Doctor's also take a hippocratic oath b4 taking their degree 2 do right 2 their duty...

but s the bitter truth iz that v can't believe doctors now a days coz d money iz given more importance than d profession...(doctors lyk d 1 who gave Gauri wrong meds 4 d sake of money r a black patch 2 diz profession).. But every profession has such wrong ppl... n so doubting every doc n reducing our respect 2wards every doc iz wrong..
even 2day dere r doctor's who work selflessly n do justice 2 their duty...

Thinking a doctor as God iz not wrong... Coz not every1 can sacrifice their sleep n family n enjoyment 2 save u...


P.s: I'm really sorry if u didn't lyk d way I said... :)


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Sejal yaar what to do? I am just so taken by that scene that I momentarily forgot about RagNa 😆 No yaar, I can never forget about them. I absolutely loved the episode today! I love how Raghav shared his insecurities with Kalpi. I absolutely loved how Raghav was so lovingly sharing his happiness at finally having someone who would care for him and fuss over him. It was absolutely heart-felt and beautiful. But there are RagNa fans who already discussed those scenes, in way more details that I would ever be able to put forward. So, I decided why not do on this? You're right though. That scene really stuck to me because I am really close to medical field and I took some classes in criminology as well. I have taken classes regarding this material and wanted to ask if anyone else feels the same.

Coming to your other points, you're right. It's the profession and the illiteracy that causes the dependency. Education is so important everywhere. What you talked about doesn't only limit to India, but also to everywhere. There's illiteracy here as well (especially amongst immigrants). Yes, it's mandatory for students to go through K-12 education because it's free in public schools but some kids still can't go to school for various reasons. Here, I have seen people not asking questions because they accept the expert's advise and know that they don't know any better since they are not that educated. That's why I am urging people to ask more questions. Think about it? How do people learn? This is when they are more willing to ask questions. Yes, even if you don't understand, ask them to simplify it for you. Don't just go to a specialist and get it fixed. Ask how they did it to see if you can do it by yourself for the next time. That can also come in handy for future. Asking questions can make an illiterate person literate is all I am saying

And coming to Raghav, you're right. I had a feeling that chawl wale worshipped him and wasn't surprised that people treated him that way. However now i am curious as to know how they will react when they figure out he's in love with Kalpi and she with him? Will they support their relationship or bash on either one of them? Will they support Kalpi saying that she's the princess of the chawl and he shouldn't abuse his rights over her and force her to love him? Or will they favor Raghav saying that Kalpi lured him into falling for her and bash her instead? I am very curious for that. I feel like the reason people respect him so much is because he has the power to do so much bad but he never abuses it. The one instant that he does abuse is power is the instant that Kalpi gets mad. Now he knows not to do that. I love how Kalpi is standing up and becoming successful to fight against that kind of system. It's absolutely marvelous and I hope CVs do show us that bit of the story!

Lastly, Expertise shouldn't make anyone deprived of mistakes. Everyone can make mistakes and that's alright. Sometimes people are distracted or say things differently when they don't even realize it so it's alright to question them. I know that it's hard because they are expert and you don't always know what to ask but it's better to sound dumb and ask question than get screwed over later on.
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you know what har feild mein achey aur burey log hote hai doctor hona bht himat ka kaam hota hai jb normal insaan sirf khoon dekh kar behosh hojata hai aisey mein dr hi operation jaise mushkil kaam karta hai jo bht risky hota hai aur jo insaan kisi ki madad karta hai log usey god ka avtaar kehtey hai aur dr to GOD ki help se logo ki zindagi bachata hai is lye merey khyal se dr sb se zyada respectable profession hai doctors ki feild mein apne se zyada dosro ki fiqar ki jati hai din raat kaam karna parta hai jo baqi feild mein nhe hota
yeh sb me islye nhe keh rahi k mein dr hn but mein dr bani hi islye hn q k mein bht respect karti hn is feild ki
aur jaha tk GOD samajhtey hain log wo unki apni prob hai q k mein bhi dr hn aur mujhse merey pateint aik sawal dus martaba pochtey hai mujh per koi bhi blindly trust nhe karta aur mujhe yeh baat bht achi bhi lagti hai aur mein bhi unhe har information breifly samjhati hn takey wo satisfy hojae
aur ema mein kamla se zyada kalpi ki ghalti hai wo educated hotey huwe bhi blidly trust karahi hai dr per wo bhi neetu k laye huwe dr per😡😡😡agar mein uski jaga hoti to kisi bharosey k dr se medicine ko confrm karti
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hey Guys! I am seriously not against doctors. Believe me, I love that profession and I didn't want to go in it because it was too tedious. So I definitely know the effort. I brought up doctors because it was shown in the episode itself. I meant that for any profession out there. I just want to point that out. Again, I am not saying to doubt but what's wrong in asking questions regarding what you're doing? Isn't it good to know what you will get yourself in to later on? Again, I am saying that I really respect that profession and i am not demeaning in any way. I am just saying to educate yourself about whatever procedure that's going on.
PS - Healthy debates don't offend me at all! It's always good to discuss about topics such as these and give your opinion so I could clarify my thoughts as well =]
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Originally posted by: Shona_Mayur

Hey Guys! I am seriously not against doctors. Believe me, I love that profession and I didn't want to go in it because it was too tedious. So I definitely know the effort. I brought up doctors because it was shown in the episode itself. I meant that for any profession out there. I just want to point that out. Again, I am not saying to doubt but what's wrong in asking questions regarding what you're doing? Isn't it good to know what you will get yourself in to later on? Again, I am saying that I really respect that profession and i am not demeaning in any way. I am just saying to educate yourself about whatever procedure that's going on.



Yes u r exactly rite in asking q's here... Even I would love 2 ask question's ... N it is surely good 2 know something completely n then proceed...
Seriously, even I'm not against ur thoughts shona...

D only thing I meant 2 say iz that dere iz nothing wrong in thinking d profession as God(not d human)...
coz every profession u do iz next 2 god... :)
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Originally posted by: Shona_Mayur

Hey Guys! I am seriously not against doctors. Believe me, I love that profession and I didn't want to go in it because it was too tedious. So I definitely know the effort. I brought up doctors because it was shown in the episode itself. I meant that for any profession out there. I just want to point that out. Again, I am not saying to doubt but what's wrong in asking questions regarding what you're doing? Isn't it good to know what you will get yourself in to later on? Again, I am saying that I really respect that profession and i am not demeaning in any way. I am just saying to educate yourself about whatever procedure that's going on.

PS - Healthy debates don't offend me at all! It's always good to discuss about topics such as these and give your opinion so I could clarify my thoughts as well =]

lol i know dear tum dr ko bura nhe bol rahi😳😳😳aur meine yeh sb islye likha q k agar ghalat treatment mein dr ki ghalti hoti hai to pateint ki bhi utni ghalti hoti hai unhe apni taraf se pori satisfication karni chahiye aur ema mein bhi dr se zyada kalpi ki ghalti hai🤢dr to hai hi criminal but insaan ko khud sawdhan rehna chahiye😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sapnapari



Yes u r exactly rite in asking q's here... Even I would love 2 ask question's ... N it is surely good 2 know something completely n then proceed...
Seriously, even I'm not against ur thoughts shona...

D only thing I meant 2 say iz that dere iz nothing wrong in thinking d profession as God(not d human)...
coz every profession u do iz next 2 god... :)


See I have nothing against people thinking that a profession such as doctor is a very respected one. The profession itself in true meaning is amazing. It's beautiful and if used properly then it can help so many lives, and definitely deserves all the praises it gets. It helps many lives so I have no problem with that. However, sometimes we tend to forget that those profession (and I mean any profession) are run by people. If we are getting billed for something in our credit card, we ask the company what the bill is for. The company can tell us some reason that's so twisted that we won't even realize but we believe them anyways because to us, they are experts - which they are. But what if you're getting charged as a mistake? I am not saying it's intentional. I am just saying that we are human. Professions may have no flaws. People do and they could make mistakes or maybe help you understand your situation better so you could go for a healthier option? That's all I am saying. And thank you for understanding my side =)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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lol i know dear tum dr ko bura nhe bol rahi😳😳😳aur meine yeh sb islye likha q k agar ghalat treatment mein dr ki ghalti hoti hai to pateint ki bhi utni ghalti hoti hai unhe apni taraf se pori satisfication karni chahiye aur ema mein bhi dr se zyada kalpi ki ghalti hai🤢dr to hai hi criminal but insaan ko khud sawdhan rehna chahiye😊


I agree with you! Honestly, if patient dies because of wrong treatment then it's also the patient's fault. Why didn't the patient ask question? Maybe they weren't in condition to but what about the other people who were able to? Why didn't they ask about the treatment? Why the praise and the blame always go to doctors? If someone dies on doctor's watch, they blame the doctor instead - why? Why can't we come to a point where we try to nullify this and actually work together to create more awareness so a situation like this never comes? Hopefully hum sab is show se kuch sikhe aur apne baare main aur aware ho.

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