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Posted: 9 years ago
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Beautiful detailed analysis. For me Shravan was trying hard not to connect with his Sumo, but at every point something makes him connect to her.
He says he doesn't care, but the way he speaks tells he cares a lot. He says he hates her, but cannot see another man coming close to her.
And the icing on the cake was his scene with Pushkar where his guard is more or less have come down. He is angry at himself in a way. He knows the real reason for the mess but he don't want to acknowledge it as he wont be able to handle it.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sptrno

Aww such a heart-breaking but beautiful analysis dear...totally heart-touching amazing...missed your analysis...u explain such in-depth matters with such simplicity..Kudos!!

Thank you!



Love,
Spandana


Thank u Spandana...

Have been making posts after a while..did a couple last week...
I resolve not to write and then some scenes make me see it in a diff light.

Waiting to see what triggers Shravan's introspection...😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sanfan


No difference...I explained his mental state only...his thoughts don't include Sumo except from the the way he feels for her...yes love can be selfish too...

If the script intended him to think about her, his realisation would also follow...So as far as I am concerned...its correct that he does not connect it...I am saying he does not connect becos he is so consumed by what he feels for her...which is the aspect of unrequited love...I am not defending his behaviour...its just who he is...he loves in this way...

U remember Chick...I told u that such men need clinical help...becos its a story we are to accept that love will heal.. I am actually not very happy at the dark route they took but I also know with a waferthin plot, drama was anyway missing from their story...His insecurity, her insecurity, his vindictiveness and her ego..which became a potent mixture for this turn...


This guy definitely needs help..Poor thing...This what parents do their children..and both Nirmala and Ramnath have been equally responsible for the mess Shravan is in now...

Clinical help- Not always, may be.That'd be easier on the partner, though. It is a long and unsure route on their own...and I don't know if it is that love heals...Perhaps, he'd find a way to positively use this all consuming fire within him...😉

Not necessary that he has to be on the receiving end all the time.😳
Edited by chicksoup - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: chicksoup


Can u please elaborate on this...please...

That fire is enuf to burn Malhotra house, and the law firm...and TK too...what else did u have in mind? 😆😆

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Girl you just took the cake, baker and bakery to the epic department.
This was marvellous...
Left me speechless!
Amazing summarization of shravan 👏
Take a bow!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sanfan


These last two lines can have different meanings.😉😆

If I said, he could learn to channel that fire...phir se double meaning ho jaayega...😛

Fire...what can one do with it? You can let it burn you and everything around you...

Also..You can learn to control it...Like every superhero who feels cursed with a power.

This is the fire of love. He can also learn to enjoy it glowing within him like a slow fire. It is entirely up to him what he wants that fire to be.

I was thinking of him channelling his passion in the right direction...using it to make things right for her. Suman has quite a lot of things going wrong in her life and Shravan is not responsible for all of them.

As for the last line- Receiving end.

The receiving end of the favours from her...Also, the receiving end of the wrath of the fire within him, since he ends up getting hurt the most. He doesn't have to be there at the receiving end always.😆

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: beagleboy

Res

Have I told you I love the way you write?

Oh Beagle...thank u so much, I loved your "A boy" it is a sophisticated version of this post..

As viewers, it would be a difficult and wasteful exercise to justify the narrative and the characters that make the story. The story writers have their own rationalizations for the direction of the story and characters, and often, these are unrealistic and bizarre. As viewers, we can read a character based on the story and analyse, in whatever depth, the development of this character as the narrative progresses, as you have done so well with Shravan. Every so often we get a character like Shravan who is so real, and yet transcends into the realm of the unreal and it is a pleasure to read and engage in a discussion about his character.

@underlined Absolutely true...Some fictional characters engage our mind that we often like to analyse their traits as if they are real flesh and blood. Which is why although this story is from the POV of Sumo, it is Shravan some of us connect to more. I don't mean in terms of liking the character (that may be part of it) but moreso becos his motivations for behaviour have been largely understood or have been fascinating to delve into.


The pain of unrequited love- when you love completely and obsessively like Shravan, pain from an unrequited love becomes so constant, so acute that it can plunge you into a dark pit of never ending despair. Consider this- he justifies his very existence by just acknowleding the sparks of love that burn within, happiness flames up within him by just being close to Suman - thinking of her and talking about her, and though he has spent a large part of his life trying to counter his yearning for her with denials, he travels a full circle and comes back to the same spot - the start - and he stands in a tenacious pool of love and yearning. When he finds no exit, he tries to bind himself to her - but unrequited love has a mind of its own and refuses to be bound. Sadly, he is trapped alone in a bilious darkness that then spreads from his heart and engulfs his brain. An acid that eats him from inside. Is there an antidote to the poison? The reality is that he expects reciprocal devotion and only that can cure his ailing heart. But hasn't this poison spread to the rest of his life?

@underlined...Hmmm...when the character mouthed the bed warmer comment, I was upset becos of two things...my own sensibility in the issue and the ability of creatives to really handle a matter of this magnitude sensitively. Its like using bandaid for a surgery. I know Chick talks of love making the necessary adjustments for a love story. While I buy that for a narrative, I feel issues of this kind must not be trifled with unless there is a clear intention to make it the centrepoint of the story. The story narration would then have to take a turn which given the TRP concerns is less likely.


I think, for the immediate journey that is due to unfold, Shravan will start by carrying a conflicting resentment in his mind, love in his heart and an ache in his stomach. No antidote will help him because when he realises the poison he spawned has coloured his life in greys and browns, the antidote may be past expiry.



😆😆 stomach ache...U let him off lightly...



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Posted: 9 years ago
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Brilliant post⭐️

And I completely agree with you on all counts. Especially about Shravan's actions...All I want to emphasize is that Shravan's flaws are what makes him so real. He is not perfect and at times even too rude, but that's why we relate to him so much, I think.

@There is a French expression that aptly sums his state which I don't know if the English language can do in a couple of words...La douleur exquise... The heart-wrenching pain of wanting the affection of someone unattainable.

@blue: This is so beautiful. And it so aptly describes Shravan's inner turmoil.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: PlainJane

Brilliant post⭐️

And I completely agree with you on all counts. Especially about Shravan's actions...All I want to emphasize is that Shravan's flaws are what makes him so real. He is not perfect and at times even too rude, but that's why we relate to him so much, I think.

True that PlainJane, even when we explore literary characters, we always spend more time examining the rough edges to a character...it makes the whole experience interesting..to accept that there is human frailty and our heroes/ines are not any less enagaging due to that...

@There is a French expression that aptly sums his state which I don't know if the English language can do in a couple of words...La douleur exquise... The heart-wrenching pain of wanting the affection of someone unattainable.

@blue: This is so beautiful. And it so aptly describes Shravan's inner turmoil.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Loved your post Rekha ❤️ Brilliant analysis.

The scene when he stops Ramnath halfway and then he says exactly what Ramnath was saying was too good. I was laughing all the way through it. It was like the two Shravan's were fighting.
Shravan 1 : NO
Shravan 2 (to himself) : Don't you know who you are talking to ?
Shravan 1 : So what ? He is badmouthing my Sumo all the time
Shravan 2 : You are trying to kill me, but I am not giving up

Shravan is at both the ends of the spectrum at the same time. I am waiting to see how the mask comes off Namik is brilliant ⭐️ , he is doing full justice to his role.

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