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Posted: 9 years ago

#171

Originally posted by: an_chau

So, after Rekha's explanation (however tenuous she thinks it was!), I am beginning to accept the delayed introspection in Shravan.
But what I'm terribly sore about is where is the empathy for his friend, who has just gone through a horrific episode? Not expecting him to drop all the hate (however make-believe), but I wasn't expecting to hear him spew, "It's her fault she chose Aditya," or "She's Sumo, she'll get over it..."
Totally can;t get that!

I know...Anu...but let me say this...this has been the biggest problem in Shravan...he has never believed that Sumo likes him for himself...he has always felt that he has never worth anything in her eyes...He started to get over it and fate intervened...so he has gone back to the past with a vengeance...broken and spiteful which in the past he was not..There he could try and stay a bit happy that she is his friend...she has given him a pride of place.. He had changed himself drastically after the cafe incident but this situation has winded him up so much that he has lost his bearings with a greater venom when he realised his pride of place is also lost BUT Shravan is Shravan : HE CAN't HELP HIS LOVE for SUMO...In his subconscious he will gravitate to her.

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Posted: 9 years ago

#172

Originally posted by: an_chau

So, after Rekha's explanation (however tenuous she thinks it was!), I am beginning to accept the delayed introspection in Shravan.
But what I'm terribly sore about is where is the empathy for his friend, who has just gone through a horrific episode? Not expecting him to drop all the hate (however make-believe), but I wasn't expecting to hear him spew, "It's her fault she chose Aditya," or "She's Sumo, she'll get over it..."
Totally can;t get that!

don;t be surprised. shravan has done this before also - remember when pushkar needed to be his alter ego and remind him (during PCT case) that if he cannot recognize the pain in his friend's eyes, he is a bad friend? it is re-run of that.

shravan needs a shock of epic proportion to come out of his status quo. something like a loss forever - like he felt during ramnath's fake accident.

If a pair needs a crisis to come together everytime, then it's an extremely toxic relationship.

oh it is! very toxic! in fcat they have one of the most unhealthy relationships post shravan's comeback from london.

they need to start afresh and may be this is what they are inching towards? who knows! if only the CVs would realize that TRPs are convoluting the main relation in the story way too much.

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Posted: 9 years ago

#173

Originally posted by: QUIRKY333
@indrani - totally! shravan is a master of "talking to himself". i guess that's the ONLY thing he has done in all those lonely years in London. 😉
the course of his life has always changed post a shock - sumo and mommy shock 10 years back; father accident shock recently and now its time for another one - one of "sumo" proportions

When Sumo gives him a kick...probably then

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Posted: 9 years ago

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@sanfan - the ONLY thing that can heal him completely and absolutely is some sort of assurance that suman loves him.

hence he NEEDS to read the letter. nothing else would matter to him.

shravan has alwsays been very one track minded - be it in love or hate. he just needs that one hint and he is all game for sumo - irrespective of her mixed signals and all that. that is the beauty of shravan's character - he is immensely loyal - if only someone makes him feel wanted.

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Posted: 9 years ago

#175

Originally posted by: sanfan

I know...Anu...but let me say this...this has been the biggest problem in Shravan...he has never believed that Sumo likes him for himself...he has always felt that he has never worth anything in her eyes...He started to get over it and fate intervened...so he has gone back to the past with a vengeance...broken and spiteful which in the past he was not..There he could try and stay a bit happy that she is his friend...she has given him a pride of place.. He had changed himself drastically after the cafe incident but this situation has winded him up so much that he has lost his bearings with a greater venom when he realised his pride of place is also lost BUT Shravan is Shravan : HE CAN't HELP HIS LOVE for SUMO...In his subconscious he will gravitate to her.

Rekha...thats the one constant which shines through and through in his behaviour...his love for Sumo...thats the only constant..

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malika

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Posted: 9 years ago

#176

Originally posted by: indranigupta

He is rationalizing the pain, Anu...that he feels for her. He wants to be with her...but, given the circumstances of which he is the master ...he tries to justify that pain which is slowly consuming him that she can overcome this trauma... because, thats the only way he can get over that horrific scene of Sumo being assaulted

Word!

Also I think he knows her too well. He has always known what she can handle on her own. Even in accident track he knew till when to care n when to let her on her own. Only a real man can do that.

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indranigupta

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Posted: 9 years ago

#177

Originally posted by: an_chau

He is rationalizing the pain, Anu...that he feels for her. He wants to be with her...but, given the circumstances of which he is the master ...he tries to justify that pain which is slowly consuming him that she can overcome this trauma... because, thats the only way he can get over that horrific scene of Sumo being assaulted

But this is so immature thinking! He's behaving like an ostrich!

Not exactly! he wants to be with her but then he doesnt want her to be in his ehsaan...he does value her self-respect as much as rants against it...he really does admire her for this...

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QUIRKY333

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Posted: 9 years ago

#178

@indrani - its also the fcat that he is internally happy that sumo realized she is a bad judge of character - something he tried to warn her about - hence the slight smug-ness i guess.

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Posted: 9 years ago

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Originally posted by: sanfan
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So, after Rekha's explanation (however tenuous she thinks it was!), I am beginning to accept the delayed introspection in Shravan.

But what I'm terribly sore about is where is the empathy for his friend, who has just gone through a horrific episode? Not expecting him to drop all the hate (however make-believe), but I wasn't expecting to hear him spew, "It's her fault she chose Aditya," or "She's Sumo, she'll get over it..."

Totally can;t get that!

I know...Anu...but let me say this...this has been the biggest problem in Shravan...he has never believed that Sumo likes him for himself...he has always felt that he has never worth anything in her eyes...He started to get over it and fate intervened...so he has gone back to the past with a vengeance...broken and spiteful which in the past he was not..There he could try and stay a bit happy that she is his friend...she has given him a pride of place.. He had changed himself drastically after the cafe incident but this situation has winded him up so much that he has lost his bearings with a greater venom when he realised his pride of place is also lost BUT Shravan is Shravan : HE CAN't HELP HIS LOVE for SUMO...In his subconscious he will gravitate to her.

I know he's terribly winded. But that day when he overheard Sumo and Adi's conversation in her room, I liked how the real Shravan came peeking from behind the iron curtain. For a brief while, but he did. Today, I'd have liked it if he had at least kept quiet and ruminated about the possible trauma that Sumo might have to face...

I guess I just don't want to see their friendship being strangled further.

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Puja Bagchi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#180

Originally posted by: QUIRKY333

don;t be surprised. shravan has done this before also - remember when pushkar needed to be his alter ego and remind him (during PCT case) that if he cannot recognize the pain in his friend's eyes, he is a bad friend? it is re-run of that.

shravan needs a shock of epic proportion to come out of his status quo. something like a loss forever - like he felt during ramnath's fake accident.

If a pair needs a crisis to come together everytime, then it's an extremely toxic relationship.

oh it is! very toxic! in fcat they have one of the most unhealthy relationships post shravan's comeback from london.

they need to start afresh and may be this is what they are inching towards? who knows! if only the CVs would realize that TRPs are convoluting the main relation in the story way too much.

What trps? The numbers have been stagnant around the 0.3-0.5 range since the beginning of the show! Ab trps ke liye kya karne ko tayyar hain CVs? Molestation...mar peet...aur kya baaki hai? If only the CVs realized that most people who watch these shows want to see a simple love story...nothing more. Trps ke adh mein...CVs are polluting the environment by generating too much trash!

Edited by puba - 9 years ago

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