My Take: The Jealousy game

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Externally it all looks very simple. Sumo triggers Shravan's jealousy and he got jealous and thats reason enough to break their friendship.

Is this really all that simple? I for one do not think that this is a a game of jealousy anymore! Its much deeper than that... It's all come down to trust and faith of Shravan in women and in particular Sumo. His father has succeeded in spewing venom in the confused son.

Shravan does think that there could be an explanation but jumps at the chance to not trust Sumo. His dad's poisoning is very effective.

Remember the pct breaking... Sumo did not believe Shravan did it even when she saw his signature. Till he verbally told her and insulted her in front of the entire office she was not willing to believe that Shravan could do such a thing. This I believe is Sumo's trust. Sadly Shravan is yet to reach that stage. By giving the papers to Adi, Shravan ended up testing Sumo and most probably does not dig deep before accusing her... its going to cost them big!!

Cvs are rubbing the slate clean.and starting from scratch. Now its all come down to shravan's trust in Sumo. Going forward, he need to unlearn his fathers teachings and relearn to trust sumo... Really trust. Not an easy task.

Guess sumo is broken, dejected and decides to stop being a burden to her family. Nanus heart attack... and most probably Shravans reaction after the attack will be the last straw. It's always been Sumo who has waited or taken the initiative... Now that she is shattered will Shravan decide to pick up the pieces? He has never been the one to let her down.

Will Shravan be able to stay away from her when he realizes that this time she has finally given up and would not be waiting for him? Sumo has always waited for Shravan... she waited 10 years for him to come back, she waited 3 days outside his office to talk to him. But now he knows, he has gone too far and she would not be able to wait for him anymore.

Will he be willing to let her go? I still feel Shravan will claim her, he may act out of anger, distrust, hatred... call it any name you want. But 'he' would not be able to let her go... there will be no second chances.

He will go for her when he really realizes that this is it. If 10 years could not get her out of his system... this truly would destroy him. Will seeing that Adi is Nirmala's son give him the conviction that this is not right for Sumo? Will his wounds open on seeing his mother? Will he breakdown or will he decide to take it all out on Sumo?

I see 3 scenarios here...


1) Shravan will be extremely angry and hurt with Sumo that there is going to be an intimate moment between them... Kameeney would catch them and get Ramnath at his own game.

or

2) Shravan will be devastated on seeing that his mom who rejected is being Adi's loving mom and now Sumo would also become Adi's. He might loose it all and Sumo would drop everything and run to him to let him know she would be there for him. Kameeney would still do her stuff.

or

3) He will be devestated on loosing Nirmala and Sumo. But Sumo would not come to him because she will be the bride... So he will go to her.

Personally I would want it to be choice 1 or 3. Shravan has always been a bagoda, but this time if he runs there is no return. Its finally become a do or die situation for him. If he is not in for it.. no one can push him into a hate marriage with Sumo be it Kam, his dad or Nanu. So somewhere he is going to get ready and learn to stop running and look for another reason behind peoples actions. Not just Sumo's but his mom and dads too.

All is fair in love and war... there is no more who is right and who is wrong... it is all about how they complete each other.

And... above all else, I dread seeing tonight's episode... cause the next 2 days is going to be absolutely horrid... waiting for Monday to come.

I hate u EDKV! ❤️❤️❤️


P.s.. if the promo could get us going... imagine how the episodes are going to be? Next week is going to be a roller coaster! Kudos to the actors, the dialogue writers, directors, the CVs and the rest of the team. Specially to Namik and Nikky!

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Its not just Shravan its Sumo as well. Until now she believed he will come to her
She believed hes hers and he will realise but somehow her actions and his thoughts did not merge so now shes all alone in this world and her nanu is dying.
Will she go back to him and talk to him .Remember she had told he will be back even if shes angry?
Is she going to try that only to be ignored again? Lets see

humara rishta khatam was something he said to her earlier also right when his mom was there but then he came right back when she met with an accident. so he will be back again. They cant stay away😳
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Originally posted by: spshastr

Its not just Shravan its Sumo as well. Until now she believed he will come to her

She believed hes hers and he will realise but somehow her actions and his thoughts did not merge so now shes all alone in this world and her nanu is dying.
Will she go back to him and talk to him .Remember she had told he will be back even if shes angry?
Is she going to try that only to be ignored again? Lets see

humara rishta khatam was something he said to her earlier also right when his mom was there but then he came right back when she met with an accident. so he will be back again. They cant stay away😳


I think she would try... during the attack. But it still would not go well... and she would finally make the call out of defeat.

The last time he said that.. things were not like this... Sumo did not promise Ramu nor did he boot her out of the office. This time its several notches higher. Nanu's health is going to make Sumo act irrationally too... She would make wrong choices... this time she would truly think that its all over.

Dont remember if he said dosti katam last time? I think he did not... he only said I hate you. This times its much more serious and there are other negative factors thats not going to let Sumo take a well thought out decision. She is under tremendous pressure, thanks to Ramu and I feel she is going to break.
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I don't know what's going to happen and honestly mere pass itna dimag bhi nahi sochne ke liye kya hoga kaise hoga😆I just know i am both excited and scared for next week😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: poppinss


I think she would try... during the attack. But it still would not go well... and she would finally make the call out of defeat.

The last time he said that.. things were not like this... Sumo did not promise Ramu nor did he boot her out of the office. This time its several notches higher. Nanu's health is going to make Sumo act irrationally too... She would make wrong choices... this time she would truly think that its all over.

Dont remember if he said dosti katam last time? I think he did not... he only said I hate you. This times its much more serious and there are other negative factors thats not going to let Sumo take a well thought out decision. She is under tremendous pressure, thanks to Ramu and I feel she is going to break.


ya i think eventually she will break. wonder when that breaking point is. Already in the rain scene she is crying saying i dont have anyone and then nanus attack will break her
But anyone does not mean Aditya na . She wants Shravan😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: poppinss



Externally it all looks very simple. Sumo triggers Shravan's jealousy and he got jealous and thats reason enough to break their friendship.

Is this really all that simple? I for one do not think that this is a a game of jealousy anymore! Its much deeper than that... It's all come down to trust and faith of Shravan in women and in particular Sumo. His father has succeeded in spewing venom in the confused son.

Shravan does think that there could be an explanation but jumps at the chance to not trust Sumo. His dad's poisoning is very effective.

Remember the pct breaking... Sumo did not believe Shravan did it even when she saw his signature. Till he verbally told her and insulted her in front of the entire office she was not willing to believe that Shravan could do such a thing. This I believe is Sumo's trust. Sadly Shravan is yet to reach that stage. By giving the papers to Adi, Shravan ended up testing Sumo and most probably does not dig deep before accusing her... its going to cost them big!!

Cvs are rubbing the slate clean.and starting from scratch. Now its all come down to shravan's trust in Sumo. Going forward, he need to unlearn his fathers teachings and relearn to trust sumo... Really trust. Not an easy task.

Guess sumo is broken, dejected and decides to stop being a burden to her family. Nanus heart attack... and most probably Shravans reaction after the attack will be the last straw. It's always been Sumo who has waited or taken the initiative... Now that she is shattered will Shravan decide to pick up the pieces? He has never been the one to let her down.

Will Shravan be able to stay away from her when he realizes that this time she has finally given up and would not be waiting for him? Sumo has always waited for Shravan... she waited 10 years for him to come back, she waited 3 days outside his office to talk to him. But now he knows, he has gone too far and she would not be able to wait for him anymore.

Will he be willing to let her go? I still feel Shravan will claim her, he may act out of anger, distrust, hatred... call it any name you want. But 'he' would not be able to let her go... there will be no second chances.

He will go for her when he really realizes that this is it. If 10 years could not get her out of his system... this truly would destroy him. Will seeing that Adi is Nirmala's son give him the conviction that this is not right for Sumo? Will his wounds open on seeing his mother? Will he breakdown or will he decide to take it all out on Sumo?

I see 3 scenarios here...


1)Shravan will be extremely angry and hurt with Sumo that there is going to be an intimate moment between them... Kameeney would catch them and get Ramnath at his own game.

or

2) Shravan will be devastated on seeing that his mom who rejected is being Adi's loving mom and now Sumo would also become Adi's. He might loose it all and Sumo would drop everything and run to him to let him know she would be there for him. Kameeney would still do her stuff.

or

3) He will be devestated on loosing Nirmala and Sumo. But Sumo would not come to him because she will be the bride... So he will go to her.

Personally I would want it to be choice 1 or 3. Shravan has always been a bagoda, but this time if he runs there is no return. Its finally become a do or die situation for him. If he is not in for it.. no one can push him into a hate marriage with Sumo be it Kam, his dad or Nanu. So somewhere he is going to get ready and learn to stop running and look for another reason behind peoples actions. Not just Sumo's but his mom and dads too.

All is fair in love and war... there is no more who is right and who is wrong... it is all about how they complete each other.

And... above all else, I dread seeing tonight's episode... cause the next 2 days is going to be absolutely horrid... waiting for Monday to come.

I hate u EDKV! ❤️❤️❤️


P.s.. if the promo could get us going... imagine how the episodes are going to be? Next week is going to be a roller coaster! Kudos to the actors, the dialogue writers, directors, the CVs and the rest of the team. Specially to Namik and Nikky!




I think ur too harsh on Shravan, if he doesn't trust her, she also has taken him for granted, snubbing him, refusing to understand his insecurities. In her list of priorities, he's way down becoz she thinks he will always be around. For me, if she accepts to marry Adi- I will be very disappointed. He is not any rishta, he is Nirmala's adopted son, and being with him will completely devastate Shravan. I agree Shravan has acted like an ass before, but in this track he tried again and again to reach out to her and broke down only after sufficient reason. I think Sumo's belief that he will understand her love despite constant rejection, constant jap of self respect did stem from the fact that he has never ever truly questioned her and mostly done her bidding- it was a kind of taken for granted. She for one knows how much his mom's disappearance and his fathers lies have hurt him and made him what he is. I agree it's a test of trust and faith- but of both of them on their love and capability to overcome all else.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: spshastr


ya i think eventually she will break. wonder when that breaking point is. Already in the rain scene she is crying saying i dont have anyone and then nanus attack will break her
But anyone

does not mean Aditya na . She wants Shravan😳


Haha but she now thinks Shravan does not want her anymore. Decides to trust Nanus choice. Shravan would soon be ready to kill... Her 😊
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Haha but she now thinks Shravan does not want her anymore. Decides to trust Nanus choice. Shravan would soon be ready to kill... Her 😊


yes i hope he does some sanskaari thing and then kamini can take over😆
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I think ur too harsh on Shravan, if he doesn't trust her, she also has taken him for granted, snubbing him, refusing to understand his insecurities. In her list of priorities, he's way down becoz she thinks he will always be around. For me, if she accepts to marry Adi- I will be very disappointed. He is not any rishta, he is Nirmala's adopted son, and being with him will completely devastate Shravan. I agree Shravan has acted like an ass before, but in this track he tried again and again to reach out to her and broke down only after sufficient reason. I think Sumo's belief that he will understand her love despite constant rejection, constant jap of self respect did stem from the fact that he has never ever truly questioned her and mostly done her bidding- it was a kind of taken for granted. She for one knows how much his mom's disappearance and his fathers lies have hurt him and made him what he is. I agree it's a test of trust and faith- but of both of them on their love and capability to overcome all else.





Oh.. was i being harsh on Shravan. My bad. That was not the intention.

But it is a fact that Shravan has parental and trust issue. The same way sumo has issues with repaying her family for their favors and being independent.

I don't think the present Shravan is insecure about Sumo. He never was... even with Adi around. His current reactions are all the result of his father's influence and his childhood. The same way as he wanting to fulfill his aunts wish however unreasonable or illegal they are...

He is still reacting like the young teen that Sumo rejected. He sure is missing out on instances where Sumo had not given up on him. There are quite a few but all in the present. And Sumo has not given any signs to Adi... yet. Both are being egotistical at this juncture... Sumo under the pretext of her promise to Ramu and Shravan because of his insecurities and Ramus influence.

Blame the character inconsistency to Sony and the cvs.

The 'taken for granted' stage once again is in their teen years. Things have changed... but Shravan is not able to take this blow hot blow cold Sumo and ends up comparing her to the teenage one. He is almost doing the things similar to the party track. He does not try to express his feelings to her either... because somewhere he is not sure / confused... thanks to Ramu Kaka.

Relationships are never equal. And it takes a lot to build and very easy to break. Shravan is used to breaking relationships (not in the past again) and Sumo works on building them... neither is right or wrong. Time for them to work on theirs. Right now one of them has to give in... and this time it should be Shravan. Beause he was the one who decided to end the relationship... his bagode tendency has closed all doors for Sumo. The Sumo in the Nirmala track was not grappling with other issues viz. Ramu kaka or Preeti's marriage or PCT not to mention Nimmy and Adi at her neck 😉. So now its up to our hero to get her out of this mess. After all what are heros for 😃

Yes Sumo did some stupid things... but in her defense she is not sure about the depth of feelings he has for her... her insecurities are similar to his too. Sumo has always been silly so nothing new there...

The self respect jaap... Shravan supporting Kameeney is purely influenced by his father's advice.
Shravan is not offering Sumo the PCT papers or any help as her friend. All his offer of help have been as Ramu's son. Again... there are flaws in narration here... blame it on CVs creative liberties.


Edited by poppinss - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: poppinss



Externally it all looks very simple. Sumo triggers Shravan's jealousy and he got jealous and thats reason enough to break their friendship.

Is this really all that simple? I for one do not think that this is a a game of jealousy anymore! Its much deeper than that... It's all come down to trust and faith of Shravan in women and in particular Sumo. His father has succeeded in spewing venom in the confused son.

Yes, it is not about Jealousy. In a way, it has always been more than jealousy. It is about insecurity. In most cases only an insecure person is jealous. And an in insecure person cannot trust fully because he/she looks for flaws and their own presumed weaknesses in others. So when Sumo proved him wrong and seemingly broke his trust, all his hidden insecurities and resentments came to a head. In the promo he says Suman Tiwari uses people, and that how, deep down,he sees her, despite his affection and love for her. When he returned from London he said she used him, and he is saying it now. She inadvertently cemented his opinion of her. Ramnath only stoked a fire that was lit many years ago.

Shravan does think that there could be an explanation but jumps at the chance to not trust Sumo. His dad's poisoning is very effective.

He has always been quick to jump to conclusions. He is the defence, prosecutor and judge all rolled into one. Many years ago, he left India in a fit of rage without listening to any explanations or apologies. He is doing the same now. He does not deem in necessary for the defendant to present her case. His decision is made the minute circumstantial evidence is presented.


Remember the pct breaking... Sumo did not believe Shravan did it even when she saw his signature. Till he verbally told her and insulted her in front of the entire office she was not willing to believe that Shravan could do such a thing. This I believe is Sumo's trust. Sadly Shravan is yet to reach that stage. By giving the papers to Adi, Shravan ended up testing Sumo and most probably does not dig deep before accusing her... its going to cost them big!!

As with other TV hero's his redemption will come a little too late. I only wish he was different to the other heroes because I don't really want to see him redeeming himself. He is what he is with his flaws. No redemption necessary. But I really don't want a I hate you track here. I do not want unpleasant mental and physical abuse neither do I want a forced marriage. So, hopefully this will stop here and not go on to public humiliation or private man handling. Nothing romantic or sexual about these things.

Cvs are rubbing the slate clean.and starting from scratch. Now its all come down to shravan's trust in Sumo. Going forward, he need to unlearn his fathers teachings and relearn to trust sumo... Really trust. Not an easy task.

Guess sumo is broken, dejected and decides to stop being a burden to her family. Nanus heart attack... and most probably Shravans reaction after the attack will be the last straw. It's always been Sumo who has waited or taken the initiative... Now that she is shattered will Shravan decide to pick up the pieces? He has never been the one to let her down.
This would make sense. I don't think Sumo should run behind and try to explain anything. If he did not wait to listen the first time, why would he listen a second or third time. And everytime his foundation of trust is broken she would have to run shelter skelter to bring it back together? Not done. A person has to be responsible for his or her own actions. And so I wish the Cvs show that Shravan analysis his actions and takes a step in the right direction, lest he looses the one person who loves him unconditionally.

Will Shravan be able to stay away from her when he realizes that this time she has finally given up and would not be waiting for him? Sumo has always waited for Shravan... she waited 10 years for him to come back, she waited 3 days outside his office to talk to him. But now he knows, he has gone too far and she would not be able to wait for him anymore.

Will he be willing to let her go? I still feel Shravan will claim her, he may act out of anger, distrust, hatred... call it any name you want. But 'he' would not be able to let her go... there will be no second chances.

He will go for her when he really realizes that this is it. If 10 years could not get her out of his system... this truly would destroy him. Will seeing that Adi is Nirmala's son give him the conviction that this is not right for Sumo? Will his wounds open on seeing his mother? Will he breakdown or will he decide to take it all out on Sumo?

I see 3 scenarios here...


1) Shravan will be extremely angry and hurt with Sumo that there is going to be an intimate moment between them... Kameeney would catch them and get Ramnath at his own game.
I don't think they will show any intimacy. The two of them are not even close to the stage where they can show that. Unless, in a fit of anger and passion, Shravan does something when he realises she has agreed to marriage with Adi.
or

2) Shravan will be devastated on seeing that his mom who rejected is being Adi's loving mom and now Sumo would also become Adi's. He might loose it all and Sumo would drop everything and run to him to let him know she would be there for him. Kameeney would still do her stuff.

or

3) He will be devestated on loosing Nirmala and Sumo. But Sumo would not come to him because she will be the bride... So he will go to her.

What I would like to see is this - Ramnath, seeing Shravan's deteriorating condition, takes the initiative to patch things up, knowing how wrong he has been. Or (since the above is unlikely), Shravan coming to know about Ramnath manipulating Suman. It is only when Shravan learns of Ramnaths manipulation (either in the Nirmala matter or Suman) can the story move forward logically. Because until he realises that his belief and trust have been built on shaky ground and nefarious and shady building techniques, he will not be able to move forward in his thinking, in his life. So the cv's need to tackle that before they can being to mend other broken relationships.

I'd also like to pause here to say that it is very easy break relationships but almost impossible to mend them and restore them to their original state of happy bliss. So, what will Shravan do that can restore the friendship between them? Depending on how far he goes and how low he stoops he may or may not be able to restore the former shine of their friendship. And it would be difficult to start from scratch with the enormous baggage they carry. There will always be a storm cloud over head.




Personally I would want it to be choice 1 or 3. Shravan has always been a bagoda, but this time if he runs there is no return. Its finally become a do or die situation for him. If he is not in for it.. no one can push him into a hate marriage with Sumo be it Kam, his dad or Nanu. So somewhere he is going to get ready and learn to stop running and look for another reason behind peoples actions. Not just Sumo's but his mom and dads too.

I truly hope that this is how it plays out. But we as viewers tend to over analyse at times. In this instance I agree with everything here that you have said and I truly hope thats what happens, because it would be a logical way forward without the normal regressive TV tracks taking over.


All is fair in love and war... there is no more who is right and who is wrong... it is all about how they complete each other.

And... above all else, I dread seeing tonight's episode... cause the next 2 days is going to be absolutely horrid... waiting for Monday to come.

Isn't this similar to the Nirmala track however? He said the same thing too -that everything was over between them? And those few episodes were horrid. Infact until about Sumos accident it was awful. Lets hope this week passes fast.

Finally totally unrelated, while we rant away about the machinations of fictional characters, there has been yet another attack in Thailand killing more innocent civilians.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness, only light can
hate cannot drive out hate, only love can

These two lines from Martin Luther King can apply to the world around us and this serial.

Peace and love to everyone in the world. Stay safe and love until it touches every atom in your being. There is so much hate in this world that it would take a lot of love to drive out the hate.






I hate u EDKV! ❤️❤️❤️


P.s.. if the promo could get us going... imagine how the episodes are going to be? Next week is going to be a roller coaster! Kudos to the actors, the dialogue writers, directors, the CVs and the rest of the team. Specially to Namik and Nikky!

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