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Originally posted by: tingding
I think they both have their share of flaws, but in this particular track my heart goes out to Shravan (and its got nothing to do with my liking for Namik). I agree that Adi offered in a very positive way, but Shravan has not been wrong in offering help either. He only became bitter after Suman kept rejecting all his overtures and thus his ego came in the way. To certain extent i even understand why Sumo could not take his help, she had after all slapped Ramnath's check on his face with 'I will not let my love down' and then taking money from Shravan would have been tantamount to taking money from Ramnath (in her thinking). I think it started off like that and then the frustration of constantly hurting him and then his retaliation, made her very egoistic. But to say that Shravan never helps her without negativity is so unfair, except the PCT case (where he was thinking about his father first), he has helped her unconditionally, even to the extent of going against his own family. (remember the Khosla case)
I dont want to make it into one is better than the other. But in this track (and this is my view), Suman is breaking Shravan without realizing it. He comes down her list of priorities and rightly so, but in progressing the way she is, she will kill the real Shravan who started emerging only after they became friends again. And though no fault of hers, how will he feel when he knows Adi got all his share of love and now the only other woman he loves is also supporting ppl who have hurt him time and again. And ppl call him pansy for listening to his father, honestly as a daughter my father's word is my command because i love him so much. i will never go against his strong wishes, will try to reason out like Shravan has been doing but not go against it. He has taken a stand against his father's wishes, but the way Suman is tackling it (good or bad i dont know), is going to be disastrous for him and their relationship. No matter what he does, he will lose from all sides.Having said that I am not really worried, this serial is 'Ek Duje ke Vaaste', so if she gives him pain, she will be the one to heal it as well. Just that, Shravan's pain is painful to watch and no i dont like the jealously track when he's hurting like hell.Ok enough of a rant, Should remember its fiction.
Originally posted by: tingding
I think they both have their share of flaws, but in this particular track my heart goes out to Shravan (and its got nothing to do with my liking for Namik). I agree that Adi offered in a very positive way, but Shravan has not been wrong in offering help either. He only became bitter after Suman kept rejecting all his overtures and thus his ego came in the way. To certain extent i even understand why Sumo could not take his help, she had after all slapped Ramnath's check on his face with 'I will not let my love down' and then taking money from Shravan would have been tantamount to taking money from Ramnath (in her thinking). I think it started off like that and then the frustration of constantly hurting him and then his retaliation, made her very egoistic. But to say that Shravan never helps her without negativity is so unfair, except the PCT case (where he was thinking about his father first), he has helped her unconditionally, even to the extent of going against his own family. (remember the Khosla case)
I dont want to make it into one is better than the other. But in this track (and this is my view), Suman is breaking Shravan without realizing it. He comes down her list of priorities and rightly so, but in progressing the way she is, she will kill the real Shravan who started emerging only after they became friends again. And though no fault of hers, how will he feel when he knows Adi got all his share of love and now the only other woman he loves is also supporting ppl who have hurt him time and again. And ppl call him pansy for listening to his father, honestly as a daughter my father's word is my command because i love him so much. i will never go against his strong wishes, will try to reason out like Shravan has been doing but not go against it. He has taken a stand against his father's wishes, but the way Suman is tackling it (good or bad i dont know), is going to be disastrous for him and their relationship. No matter what he does, he will lose from all sides.Having said that I am not really worried, this serial is 'Ek Duje ke Vaaste', so if she gives him pain, she will be the one to heal it as well. Just that, Shravan's pain is painful to watch and no i dont like the jealously track when he's hurting like hell.Ok enough of a rant, Should remember its fiction.
Originally posted by: AppleBlossom
It is really, really unfair to say that Sumo has never done anything for Shravan. Sumo is a very giving lover (given that these two have always behaved like lovers masquerading as friends). The two leap of faiths that lurched their relationship forward were both taken by Suman.
Sumo has never taken monetary help from anyone. Aditya has only found her a place for rent, he isn't offering to pay it. There is a difference. Sumo had no issue with taking Shravan's non-monetary help before the PCT issue. She even said out loud that she knew Shravan was fighting the Khosla case for her. She had no issues allowing that..It's just that she is cornered from all sides right now. People think she is blindly choosing her family over Shravan but they completely fail to see that the father of the man she loves flat out told her that he doesn't want her for his son. The same father that Shravan has, in Sumo's eyes, constantly chosen over her. Does it make sense for her to try to pursue this relationship post the Nirmala incident? In her head, Shravan would not even consider the idea of his father being in the wrong, especially if the only proof she has is her words (is she wrong, btw?). So, what choice does she have?As for her being rude, part of it is wanting to push him away, and part of it is her taking the frustration of her situation out at the only person she considers hers. I wonder if people who have such an issue with Suman's 'insults' remember how Shravan treated her when he couldn't face his own feelings. They lash out at each other, it is a thing they do. It is also a facet of their love. They are each other's people. If she is taking him for granted right now, she is has been taken granted for by Shravan plenty times in the past.
Originally posted by: AppleBlossom
It is really, really unfair to say that Sumo has never done anything for Shravan. Sumo is a very giving lover (given that these two have always behaved like lovers masquerading as friends). The two leap of faiths that lurched their relationship forward were both taken by Suman.
Sumo has never taken monetary help from anyone. Aditya has only found her a place for rent, he isn't offering to pay it. There is a difference. Sumo had no issue with taking Shravan's non-monetary help before the PCT issue. She even said out loud that she knew Shravan was fighting the Khosla case for her. She had no issues allowing that..It's just that she is cornered from all sides right now. People think she is blindly choosing her family over Shravan but they completely fail to see that the father of the man she loves flat out told her that he doesn't want her for his son. The same father that Shravan has, in Sumo's eyes, constantly chosen over her. Does it make sense for her to try to pursue this relationship post the Nirmala incident? In her head, Shravan would not even consider the idea of his father being in the wrong, especially if the only proof she has is her words (is she wrong, btw?). So, what choice does she have?As for her being rude, part of it is wanting to push him away, and part of it is her taking the frustration of her situation out at the only person she considers hers. I wonder if people who have such an issue with Suman's 'insults' remember how Shravan treated her when he couldn't face his own feelings. They lash out at each other, it is a thing they do. It is also a facet of their love. They are each other's people. If she is taking him for granted right now, she is has been taken granted for by Shravan plenty times in the past.
OK to certain extent i agree with you but don't you think it's bit too much. did Shravan offer money like a rich man wanting to show you can't afford ( remember he gave the PCT papers with so much attitude and i really loved how she gave it back to him) no he was genuinely trying to make things better by making everyone happy because no matter what Suman does chachi matters and it will surely affect if she gose against the marriage once again and don't forget Shravan loves chachi becoz she does everything possible in her hands to see her son flourish but his own mom abandoned him for whatever reason may be that's why he cares for chachi even when he knows she is wrong and just wants to see a mother happy.Shravan insulting Suman at the party or Khosla case was immature but don't you think after what he went through he was not wrong either.just my thoughts i know i should remember it is just a serial and not take the characters too much to the heart. but kya kare Shravan ka haalat dekha nahin jaatha 😭
Originally posted by: malikakas
Love the 'lovers masquerading as friends' bit... so true. Its like they were in a surrogate relationship. And yes you are absolutely correct... the two leaps of faith for the relationship were taken by Sumo. But both times Shravan was considering opening up, he's reconsidered for some reason or another. He needs to be sure he's ready for the risk before he takes the leap.I honestly don't understand the complaint that Sumo is choosing family over Shravan. Especially when they made it abundantly clear that Shravan would pick Ramnath over Sumo. He's done it in the past and clearly stated he would do it again.
word..Originally posted by: AppleBlossom
It is really, really unfair to say that Sumo has never done anything for Shravan. Sumo is a very giving lover (given that these two have always behaved like lovers masquerading as friends). The two leap of faiths that lurched their relationship forward were both taken by Suman.
Sumo has never taken monetary help from anyone. Aditya has only found her a place for rent, he isn't offering to pay it. There is a difference. Sumo had no issue with taking Shravan's non-monetary help before the PCT issue. She even said out loud that she knew Shravan was fighting the Khosla case for her. She had no issues allowing that..It's just that she is cornered from all sides right now. People think she is blindly choosing her family over Shravan but they completely fail to see that the father of the man she loves flat out told her that he doesn't want her for his son. The same father that Shravan has, in Sumo's eyes, constantly chosen over her. Does it make sense for her to try to pursue this relationship post the Nirmala incident? In her head, Shravan would not even consider the idea of his father being in the wrong, especially if the only proof she has is her words (is she wrong, btw?). So, what choice does she have?As for her being rude, part of it is wanting to push him away, and part of it is her taking the frustration of her situation out at the only person she considers hers. I wonder if people who have such an issue with Suman's 'insults' remember how Shravan treated her when he couldn't face his own feelings. They lash out at each other, it is a thing they do. It is also a facet of their love. They are each other's people. If she is taking him for granted right now, she is has been taken granted for by Shravan plenty times in the past.
Originally posted by: poppinss
Shravan is still a little boy in a man's body. No adult would yoyo like Shravan and keep insulting his best friend. Infact I can't consider a person like him as my best friend even if i am at fault. I would feel sorry for what happened to him but I can't change the past... can only move forward and try to make it up to him in the present. Sadly Shravan is still living in the past. If we feel Sumo is so bad why are we rooting for Shraman 🥱. As for Sumo being harsh on Shravan blame that on Ramnath. How else would she be? And will Shravan be able accept the negativity in Ramu? Won't it break him? The only way out of this mess is fire Shravan to use his brain. Hope cvs do that soon.As for the money part... some ppl who take pride in being self made Wil not like to take monetary help. Nothing wrong in that.As for chachi... she loves money. She does not want push to find his happiness but wants to thrust, foster her wishes and needs on him. Is that really love? We should give that Dun some thought.