The fine line between Galat fehmi and Galat soch

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hello everyone! I'm here to voice my thoughts on that one line that Sumo delivered yesterday.
Suman said something on the lines of 'Un dono ko bahot badi galat fehmi hui hai'. I disagree. The only person who has been at the receiving end of this galat fehmi is Shravan, not Ramnath.

Ramnath is nothing but a misogynist. A man who hates the idea that his wife was more financially able than him. A man who will think ill of this woman who put together day and night to feed their family. Somehow, her efforts were nullified, why? Because Ramnath decided that a woman can only get to the top by sleeping her way through? Umm, you think sleeping your way to the top is the only way woman can be the best in whatever they do, right? Not because they have um, something called talent, hard work and determination. No. She's a woman, which means she traded sexual favours with her boss for a promotion. Ugh. That man disgusts me. So, I say this is galat soch and not galat fehmi.

I just want to put forward a hypothetical scenario. What if Tiwari ji was a woman? What if a woman had given Ramnath his first case? If Nirmala had put forth the same argument, that Ramnath got the case because he slept for it? That man would have scoffed at her. Why? Because he is a man? So, he must have all the freaking brains in the world?

Why are rules different for men and women? Why is a woman's success always second guessed but a man's victory applauded? Why?

The only person who has suffered in this is Shravan. He was shown something, his mother in a compromising situation. But honestly, why was it compromising? What if Ahuja sir was a woman? Then, it would have just looked like Nirmala's friend consoling her after a terrible fight at home. But he was a man. Of course, a man and woman can never be friends. Shravan was at an impressionable age. He had been privy to his parents fighting like cats and dogs. So, what he saw affected him and hurt him and stayed with him all his life. This was a galat fehmi.

So, yes. There is a difference between Galat fehmi and Galat soch. And when Suman says she wants to sort this out with the two of them, I disagree. The only relation which deserves a second chance is that of Nirmala and Shravan. That is the only galat fehmi to erase. I wouldn't mind Ramnath realising his mistake. But I don't want Suman or any one else to even bother with him. He did not misunderstand the situation. He merely understood it as what he wanted it to be.

Also, yes, this is a TV serial with happily ever afters. But I don't want Ramnath and Nirmala to get back together. They can co-parent. But a relationship beyond that, I don't support. I, for one, would never be able to live with a man who disrespected me like that. I hope Nirmala is a woman of steel too.

I don't generally make serious posts. But I had a lot of thoughts going through yesterday's episode. It irked me, seeing how she was mistreated and for what, being a woman?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Yes! Preach!

When I watched the preview for yesterday I thought something entirely different had happened because Sumo said that Ramnath also misunderstood the situation! But after watching today's episode I was wondering how she could even say that about Ramnath when he was clearly in the wrong!

Personally, I want Nirmala to come back into Shravan's life but not necessarily get back together with Ramnath, unless he is truly apologetic for his actions...which he doesn't seem to be even in the recent episodes. There are things he has said even recently that link right back to this misogynist attitude of his.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Agree to whatever you said...Ramnath is an absolute jerk! It will be wonderful to see mother and son reuniting! It wouldn't take Shravan any time to realize that his mother was not at fault! That's what I think! And that's what makes Ramnath and Shravan so drastically different!
I hope Nirmala doesn't have anything to with Ramnath in the future. Their son is grown up...they don't need to get together for their son's sake!

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Great post , for me when he hit nirmila that was it , physical abuse is an issue very close to my heart so I can't get pass that , I want nirmila and shrawan a relation to blossom as mother and son but ramnath no they can be cordial with each other for shrawans sake but Nirmila packing her bags and moving in is something I won't be able to digest , but I know it's an Indian soap and at the end of the day no matter how independent woman is and how wrong guy is woman will be a sati sawitri and put her sindoor first 😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: astonm

Yes! Preach!


When I watched the preview for yesterday I thought something entirely different had happened because Sumo said that Ramnath also misunderstood the situation! But after watching today's episode I was wondering how she could even say that about Ramnath when he was clearly in the wrong!

Personally, I want Nirmala to come back into Shravan's life but not necessarily get back together with Ramnath, unless he is truly apologetic for his actions...which he doesn't seem to be even in the recent episodes. There are things he has said even recently that link right back to this misogynist attitude of his.


Yes. In the first episode, when Nanu was pissed at Suman for cancelling the trip, Ramnath said something like 'Girls should prioritise their family over work'. When I saw that episode, I actually thought that was Ramnath using reverse psychology to get Nanu to understand Suman. But now that I think of it, it just seems Ramnath was being his usual douchy self.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: puba

Agree to whatever you said...Ramnath is an absolute jerk! It will be wonderful to see mother and son reuniting! It wouldn't take Shravan any time to realize that his mother was not at fault! That's what I think! And that's what makes Ramnath and Shravan so drastically different!

I hope Nirmala doesn't have anything to with Ramnath in the future. Their son is grown up...they don't need to get together for their son's sake!


Exactly. That's why I am in support for co-parenting but not for them to be together. They don't need to get together for Shravan's sake. And honestly, after he disrespected her for probably two-three years, what's the guarantee that he won't go back to his old ways after apologising once? You can't just throw out misogyny out the window like that.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Eeshaal

Great post , for me when he hit nirmila that was it , physical abuse is an issue very close to my heart so I can't get pass that , I want nirmila and shrawan a relation to blossom as mother and son but ramnath no they can be cordial with each other for shrawans sake but Nirmila packing her bags and moving in is something I won't be able to digest , but I know it's an Indian soap and at the end of the day no matter how independent woman is and how wrong guy is woman will be a sati sawitri and put her sindoor first 😳


Which is why I hope this show doesn't go that way? It will be a strong message if she chooses her son over the notion of a happy family.

But true, it's a TV show, so, people expect happy endings and not realism everywhere. I would be glad though.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hallelujah! Please can I get an A-MEN?
THAT, THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE between Ramnath & Shravan.


And yeah, the "dono ko galatfemi" confused me too, but I think that was idealistic Suman who still hadn't completely registered all the fact that Ramnath had done all this. Which makes me wonder, how Shravan will, as Suman isn't even close to Ramnath and she's clearly having a tough time digesting it.

And EXACTLY what you said, earlier I had thought that it was maybe a two way galatfemi or something where Ramnath wasn't completely wrong & might've wanted the two to get back together to give Shravan a complete family or whatever, but after today, I AM SO HAPPY SO SO HAPPY Nirmala never went back to him and had the courage to leave right when she did. And like you said, I so want her to be in Shravan's life, but now just as a parent, she doesn't need to go back to that Ramnath. And I'm pretty sure that isn't gonna happen because the actress who plays Nirmala made it very clear in an interview that she came back to reconcile with her son, not apologize or go back on the choices she's made in life. I just love her ❤️, my heart breaks for Shravan though. Everyone he ever trusted, always let him down (because even though Nirmala never actually let him down, Shravan believed what his father conditioned him to and thus suffered as if she had, again, despite the fact that she actually didn't. Basically, he still suffered.) And so, when he finds out about his dad, god this boy's gonna be crushed.

God this show writes this so beautifully, with skill & complexity, but doesn't cheapen the emotions or the drama (and this whole track in my opinion could've TOTALLY been cheapened to OTT TV melodrama but no, the whole track, Shravan's issues with his past, Nirmala's angst, it's all shown with such dignity, I'm just so proud.)


Anyways I think I went off in a quasi-rant ❤️ Ttyl, gotta get back to homework--hopefully I made some sense? 😆 & Love you for this post!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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exactly! i honestly hope that they deal with this subject in a mature way! for the first time in indian television history - such a sensitive issue has been brought up - its not about women rights only but her right to work and work because she wants to and can take care of her family like a man would. I personally want shravan to stand up for his mother (now wont that be a nice change to see on Indian TV than the usual soapy mother figures manipulating their sons) on his own once he finds out the truth.
this topic is so close to my heart and just because CVs have taken it upon themselves to bring it to fore - i am really hoping for a a great story to unfold here! fingers crossed - i hope it doesnt go the MAKHI WAY (pun intended) for TRP auntys
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .SankaDevi.

Hallelujah! Please can I get an A-MEN?

THAT, THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE between Ramnath & Shravan.


And yeah, the "dono ko galatfemi" confused me too, but I think that was idealistic Suman who still hadn't completely registered all the fact that Ramnath had done all this. Which makes me wonder, how Shravan will, as Suman isn't even close to Ramnath and she's clearly having a tough time digesting it.

And EXACTLY what you said, earlier I had thought that it was maybe a two way galatfemi or something where Ramnath wasn't completely wrong & might've wanted the two to get back together to give Shravan a complete family or whatever, but after today, I AM SO HAPPY SO SO HAPPY Nirmala never went back to him and had the courage to leave right when she did. And like you said, I so want her to be in Shravan's life, but now just as a parent, she doesn't need to go back to that Ramnath. And I'm pretty sure that isn't gonna happen because the actress who plays Nirmala made it very clear in an interview that she came back to reconcile with her son, not apologize or go back on the choices she's made in life. I just love her ❤️, my heart breaks for Shravan though. Everyone he ever trusted, always let him down (because even though Nirmala never actually let him down, Shravan believed what his father conditioned him to and thus suffered as if she had, again, despite the fact that she actually didn't. Basically, he still suffered.) And so, when he finds out about his dad, god this boy's gonna be crushed.

God this show writes this so beautifully, with skill & complexity, but doesn't cheapen the emotions or the drama (and this whole track in my opinion could've TOTALLY been cheapened to OTT TV melodrama but no, the whole track, Shravan's issues with his past, Nirmala's angst, it's all shown with such dignity, I'm just so proud.)


Anyways I think I went off in a quasi-rant ❤️ Ttyl, gotta get back to homework--hopefully I made some sense? 😆 & Love you for this post!


The actress actually said that? Then, there definitely is hope. This show does realism well. And I just hope they stick to it throughout. No woman should have to apologise for her career. And she sure as hell, shouldn't have to make the choice between her career and family because of someone else. It is her choice to make.

And definitely, this whole track could have gone sideways. Drama is the way TV functions and somehow, a woman is either black or white on TV. If she loves her family, she becomes white (that jagat mata people keep saying Indian FLs are). But if she has a vendetta (or God forbid, a career), she becomes completely black. Thank God, Nirmala is neither. Neither is she the mahaanta ki murat to stay in a marriage which only inflicted pain nor is she some aggressive career woman devoid of emotions. She is real, not a caricature of a character. I am glad Nirmala walked out of that trashy marriage. The only regret I have is she had to let go of a relationship with her own son because of her judgemental ass of an ex-husband.

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