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Posted: 9 years ago
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Lovely post🤗... Chick

Was thinking about a word in the title of your post... "boundary"

What do we understand by boundary? Is it merely the limit, the periphery, the edge which gives anything its shape, structure and its order? Yet, boundary also signifies something which is outside itself... beyond the limit. A is what B is not, friendship is what love is not...yet, friendship or love both cannot be understood without the other.

Boundary apart from pointing what is inclusive to it and exclusive also interrogates the limit itself.. and opens it for review. This show more than anything asks us to turn the mirror and probe about what we do understand by boundaries.

Sumo and Shravan... teenage friends outside the boundaries of peer acceptance... became friends on the sly... outside the boundaries or...

Their secret code of door knock.. outside the boundaries of parental authority, peer pressure, of a guilty pleasure...

The washroom lingo between these two.. outside the standard conventional idiom of speaking within a larger group.. boundaries again

Shravan outside the door.. family within and he outside and he within and the family outside. Boundaries again

The letter penned by a teenager to declare his love.. exceeding the limits of friendship.. boundaries questioned

Flirting in the kitchen, closet, terrace... boundaries dissolved and then reinstated. Is it so?

Sumo outside or within the family.. .Khosla case this question was asked... boundaries probed

Sumo and Shravan's case is unique in the sense because order is eventually found when the boundaries are dissolved or bridged or simply swept aside.

Last Friday's episode had a small but significant scene that of Shravan sitting on the window sill of the kitchen to see Sumo cooking the daal. As much as this scene does remind the viewers of the teenage Shravan watching Sumo cook for him and for others umpteen times in the past... dissolving the boundary between the past and the present. It also explicates the working of the boundary... boundary which is never static but always dynamically oriented. How so? Like the letter which was penned by Shravan, daal is the boundary between Sumo and Shravan, Shravan and his mom. But, daal is both a happy and a sad memory. Like the letter ...it cannot be contained... it cannot be structured but its very articulation is more than a disorder... more than anti-thesis.

A boundary which flows, spread its wings and is more than a line. Look at the friday episode again, when Sumo and Shravan are speaking inside the kitchen they are seen through for a second through a divider... window sill acted as the frame which shall separate them. Or, in other words, daal or the figure of the mother coming close to that separation. Yet, for all its divide, this very boundary is a part of Shravan's system something akin to the letter itself. The letter of a child becoming an adult too soon, crossing a boundary and yet that boundary is flowing, its meaning carried over even ten years after it was written. Friendship as a boundary not to be crossed is itself held up for review

The question is not whether there is a boundary but what do we understand by a boundary

Is Sumo and Suman different? Is there a boundary between teenage Shravan or the adult one? Has the meaning changed as written in the letter? Boundaries... all of them, yet more than boundaries they are perspectives. Like the mirror to which Sumo continuously talks to. Is there a boundary between her and the image which is seen in the mirror? Is there a difference between the past and the present? Boundaries are everywhere but this couple's relation is neither outside nor inside. It is a border which is worrying the lines constantly, shifting its paradigm, its frame but not completely out of the frame. Like in the game of cricket, when you hit a six, it means you hit it outside the boundary and yet the boundary of the game persists. Whatever these two do or say in the future or have said in the past.. it is to be seen in the light of dissolving a boundary and yet the larger boundary remains. That is the boundary which states that their relation is and was of love.

Hope I made some sense😆

Great post👏

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Posted: 9 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: chicksoup


😆

Looking fwd to many more QH fans joining in then- how can one ignore the Ankie factor!. 😉

OK. I am running...Good for me she is busy binge watching! 😛


Yes true...can't igno the ankie factor...

I guess many more QH fans already here...

And asyaarshilover already started writing here..

Would love to join you guys here.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: MisHumptyDumpty

Teh u were supposed to Skype with me not stalk me 😡

Mummaa mumma mumma 2done 3about to be over.


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Posted: 9 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

RES. Hey Soup it's way too late here for me to analyze and write a long response. So will do it tomorrow.

BTW, I updated my SS. Check it out when you get the time!


Will sure do, Mandy! Thanx!🤗
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Posted: 9 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: micshy

U got ne confused ...

Does friendship has no boundry or love has no boundry,

Would they hv crossed that line if they considered each other "just friends"

If their feelings for each others were not there,

For me answer is yes and no both

Yes bcz in friendship these things r just the usual things, if my friend is pissing me off i wud bite to get hold of my thing,

No came in because sometimes friendships evolve and transform over the passage of time ... there might be some hesitance due to the time that has passed and the memories which were not so amusing,

But the scenes u hv mentioned r so beautiful, i loved the chase sequence, for me that was the foundation of their newly found rather newly restored friendship, n those FBs interspersed 👏 a bog shout out to the child actors and the Writerz for beautifully churning out the bg story. Second one was definitely the day they completely restored their friendship ...

All in all, the journey is exciting, i wish the journey from friends to lovers is as much as fun. N intense (waiting for shravan's intensity) i wish im not let down


Mic,

I meant:
Friendship has no emotional boundaries...but there is a limit to how close you can get physically with a person.
The bite- yes, it can be viewed in two ways..one is just an act of combat- when U R fighting for something, the other a passionate gesture...Suman shied away when she realised it was too intimate a gesture, considering she was getting to know what her feelings for him were...ten years back, it had been innocent...but now, she herself set that limit for her.

So far, I am loving the story. ❤️...
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Posted: 9 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: indranigupta

Lovely post🤗... Chick

Was thinking about a word in the title of your post... "boundary"

What do we understand by boundary? Is it merely the limit, the periphery, the edge which gives anything its shape, structure and its order? Yet, boundary also signifies something which is outside itself... beyond the limit. A is what B is not, friendship is what love is not...yet, friendship or love both cannot be understood without the other.

Boundary apart from pointing what is inclusive to it and exclusive also interrogates the limit itself.. and opens it for review. This show more than anything asks us to turn the mirror and probe about what we do understand by boundaries.

Sumo and Shravan... teenage friends outside the boundaries of peer acceptance... became friends on the sly... outside the boundaries or...

Their secret code of door knock.. outside the boundaries of parental authority, peer pressure, of a guilty pleasure...

The washroom lingo between these two.. outside the standard conventional idiom of speaking within a larger group.. boundaries again

Shravan outside the door.. family within and he outside and he within and the family outside. Boundaries again

The letter penned by a teenager to declare his love.. exceeding the limits of friendship.. boundaries questioned

Flirting in the kitchen, closet, terrace... boundaries dissolved and then reinstated. Is it so?

Sumo outside or within the family.. .Khosla case this question was asked... boundaries probed

Sumo and Shravan's case is unique in the sense because order is eventually found when the boundaries are dissolved or bridged or simply swept aside.

Last Friday's episode had a small but significant scene that of Shravan sitting on the window sill of the kitchen to see Sumo cooking the daal. As much as this scene does remind the viewers of the teenage Shravan watching Sumo cook for him and for others umpteen times in the past... dissolving the boundary between the past and the present. It also explicates the working of the boundary... boundary which is never static but always dynamically oriented. How so? Like the letter which was penned by Shravan, daal is the boundary between Sumo and Shravan, Shravan and his mom. But, daal is both a happy and a sad memory. Like the letter ...it cannot be contained... it cannot be structured but its very articulation is more than a disorder... more than anti-thesis.

A boundary which flows, spread its wings and is more than a line. Look at the friday episode again, when Sumo and Shravan are speaking inside the kitchen they are seen through for a second through a divider... window sill acted as the frame which shall separate them. Or, in other words, daal or the figure of the mother coming close to that separation. Yet, for all its divide, this very boundary is a part of Shravan's system something akin to the letter itself. The letter of a child becoming an adult too soon, crossing a boundary and yet that boundary is flowing, its meaning carried over even ten years after it was written. Friendship as a boundary not to be crossed is itself held up for review

The question is not whether there is a boundary but what do we understand by a boundary

Is Sumo and Suman different? Is there a boundary between teenage Shravan or the adult one? Has the meaning changed as written in the letter? Boundaries... all of them, yet more than boundaries they are perspectives. Like the mirror to which Sumo continuously talks to. Is there a boundary between her and the image which is seen in the mirror? Is there a difference between the past and the present? Boundaries are everywhere but this couple's relation is neither outside nor inside. It is a border which is worrying the lines constantly, shifting its paradigm, its frame but not completely out of the frame. Like in the game of cricket, when you hit a six, it means you hit it outside the boundary and yet the boundary of the game persists. Whatever these two do or say in the future or have said in the past.. it is to be seen in the light of dissolving a boundary and yet the larger boundary remains. That is the boundary which states that their relation is and was of love.

Hope I made some sense😆

Great post👏


Indrani,

Well, actually..Still reeling...😆

This was a beautiful thought on boundaries, Indrani.👏

So the Q is, are there any boundaries at all?

Doesn't it all flow, one into the other? The friendship and love. Sumo and Suman. The old Shravan and this one.

The daal and the letter cannot contain the dynamics of their relationship, even though they may symbolically act as boundaries..imaginary boundaries set by human emotions that are not willing to let go..trust...simply follow the heart.

(Loved it that you pointed out the boundarie set on their relationship by their families...his chachi and her mami especially...I had wanted to mention that Shravan would disregard these so called restrictions...they don't even exist eve though they are firmly put in place...and felt by Sumo more than Shravan...)

👏Lovely analysis on Fri epi too..❤️
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Posted: 9 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: sweet_tehs


Yes true...can't igno the ankie factor...

I guess many more QH fans already here...

And asyaarshilover already started writing here..

Would love to join you guys here.


The more the merrier! 🤗 Join in the fun. 😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
#38
i disagree.. less but interested people are better than more and not interested people -.- had my lesson.
onto the reunion party.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#39
This post just made me fall in love with this show all over again - fall in love with ShraMan ❤️
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Posted: 9 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: MisHumptyDumpty

i disagree.. less but interested people are better than more and not interested people -.- had my lesson.

onto the reunion party.


One thing I can vouch for...
This is the most sane forum I have been in. 😆

Oh No! Reunion party! 😲😭
At this rate, when will U finish? Are you planning to sit up until U finish all 60...ha ha...U could catch the Mon epi straight then. 😉
Might have to watch on TV- from what I hear, Sony uploads it late...Ofc, U must have Ur sources too.
Happy binge-ing! 🤗

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