Double Standards - Page 4

Originally posted by: Angels11

OK lots of folks feel tat i am being insensitive, not understanding the pain of a daughter fighting for her dead parents. So let me just highlight a few points which troubled me:

1. Frm the beginning Suman was claiming that v cant lose the house. Both Nani, herself & even Shravan r so attached to the house. So her 1st & foremost priority is to save the house rt? But no for Suman the only priority was always to prove that her parents were best. Per se I dont find this wrong. Every kid thinks their parents r best. But then y the lie tat saving the house is all she cares for. So mami was rt in a way. For her BAAD MEIN JAYE SAB LOG, the reputation of her parents is more important than saving her precious Nanu's house. Is this not being selfish. Again I am fine with ppl being selfish. We all are! But I am simply pointing out the double stds of the fans on this forum. If mami is selfish she is evil, freeloader blah blah. But if Suman the great heroine is selfish its not being selfish. She is actually MAHAN. This tendency in every forum in IF to justify every single deed of the FL is wat irritates me. Happened in my old forum as well. If maami hurts others in trying to make the life of her kids better she is evil. But if the grt Suman hurts others in trying to prove her mom's honesty she is MAHAN!!!!

2. Its a romantic fiction. So v all know tat Suman, Shravan r good, Suman's parents r gud. But does tis happen in real life? Just coz parents love their kids doesnt make them pure than the driven snow. Even the worst criminals might ve kids tat dote on them. I am not saying Suman's parents r evil. All I am saying is how can an entire case lie on the strength of the love of a 6 yr old girl who idolized her parents? Is tat not taking a myopic view. Same with nanu always supporting his daughter. Nanu & Suman keep claiming that Priya had written everything in her book. Suman's parents died an untimely death. When did Priya last update the records. What if they had taken the loan on the day they died or the prev day & hence dint ve the time 2 record it. All I am pointing out is how weak legally the case is. Just try telling tis in court that Priya is innocent coz there is no entry in her little book with Khosla's name. You ll b laughed out of the court.

3. Coming to Shravan-Suman relationship. Even the jerk ASR showed examples of caring for the girl he kept insulting. But here so far I ve seen only insults from the grt heroine. Frankly I am just tired of all this aatma samman stuff. In between the aatma samman if the CVs show small glimpses of Suman's affection & friendship for Shravan the show can be enjoyable to non-biased viewers like me. I am not asking Suman to fall in love & go all gooey. I am just asking for some honest glimpses of her care for Shravan. Till now its always Shravan has done something & she reacts. Earlier he insulted so she insulted back. He put his life & work on hold, so she thanked him. Basically till now she has never done anything voluntarily for this friendship. After 3 mths if the CVs still cant show even small glimpses of Suman giving back something in this relationship then sorry they must change the title frm Ek Duje Ke Vaste to Sumo ki Majnu. It ll b more apt.

I logged in now after yesterday's episode.
LOool, why is this still going on? 😆

Originally posted by: Sanika.

I logged in now after yesterday's episode.
LOool, why is this still going on? 😆

Originally posted by: spnfan

Coz its a very.interesting topic😃

Not really..
Why is it so hard for some to get that they both are justified.. it is not sumo v/s shravan,, or bad character development?

I am more confused about Shravan's behaviour! does he really think that giving 6 crores to Khosla is a wise decision?
Khosla is not at all trustworthy and there is no guarantee that he will NOT reopen the case especially when the case is already in his favour!
Khosla might trouble the Tiwaris again after he gets 6 crores!
though he is yet to receive the amount in cash..Shravan said something like cheque will be cleared after he takes back the case or something like that!
maybe Shravan has a plan!
Suman is right in a way.. that Khosla taking back the case is not going to help!
I mean Khosla still has her mom's signature and from the epi it looked like he has already planned his next move!
Suman and the Tiwaris need to win the case so that they will not be troubled again in future!
I am not taking Shravan or Suman's side.. the way CVs executed the engagement track was beyond my expectation so lets see how they will end this track!

Originally posted by: Sanika.

Not really..
Why is it so hard for some to get that they both are justified.. it is not sumo v/s shravan,, or bad character development?

Shravan, as the TM said, gave up his job to help this woman, he loves her so much.so after her break down at her house which he witnessed, his main focus was on how to save the house. Question the brains of the oxford grad after some episodes if he does not come up with a plan.

@TM- So just because someone's name is already tarnished, does not mean that it cannot be tarnished more. It is like saying "jale pe aur namak chidkenge tou farak nai padega" It will hurt.
I also did not get your concept of us making Suman mahan. If we were to say so we would not have said she was in the wrong 10 years ago.
She did not complain, she just put her hurt forth to make him understand. I do not see how that is ungrateful. She just wanted him to understand.

Sorry for the delay Angels11 ...yes looking from a practical point of view, she should be grateful to shravan irrespective it being a rash decision or not...hell he saved them from being on the streets...at this age how will nanu tolerate such living conditions...people like khosla wont spare their targets no matter what.People just don't give whooping 6 crores just like that without hesitation ...this guy thought of her well being only ...the intention with which he did is pure.

Originally posted by: redwine1

First of all take a bow .. Angel ... u helped create a very interesting & meaningful discussion .. after a long time have participated in a discussion of sorts in the forum ... Kudos babe ...

Sanika in this thread on page 5 brought out 2 beautiful points ...

Why does one have to be right ... or one wrong ???? they are protagonists .. they will deliver as per their characterisation .. we may agree or disagree ... but its the character being true to their selves ...

take a bow Sanika for highlighting this point ...

Sanika also wrote ... why can't a tarnished name be tarnished more ... brilliant point Sanika .. once again take a bow ...

i will elaborate from Sanika's statement ... Priya Tiwari .. took out a loan ... she was allowed to do so .. she dint expect to cop it so young ...& she would've managed to pay back had she lived .. pure conjecture ... BUT BUT .. had she taken her fathers house papers & pledged them against a loan .. without the knowledge of the other owners .. THATS A CRIME ... thats a IMAGE being tarnished ...

That puts a new slant on Priya Tiwari's name ...one which makes her out to be CON ARTIST ... on par with Khosla ...

Hence if a loving daughter expected to clear her mothers name & secure her home ...it was completely justified ... YES Suman did harp about saving her home ...BUT to be fair to her .. the option of paying back 4.5 crores never struck her .. one it would be morally wrong & second it was a no show ...

In her mind .. Saving her home meant Giving her mom a clean chit ...

Now taking Sanika's first statement into account let me elaborate ... lets back track a bit .. when Sumo goes to Shravan the first time to ask for help ... there is a FB .. where without her asking he offers her HELP .. he finishes her homework .. thats Shravan's nature .. he will jump in with both his feet to help her .. with no thought of anything else ... so what shravan did was PERFECTLY in TUNE WITH HIS CHARACTER ...

Now lets take Suman ... a girl desperately waiting for a friend to come back ... the guy who got her .. the guy who was had her back ... this guy ruthlessly in a party calls her to what amounts as a gold digger .. someone who coz Shravan was successful wanted to claim friendship ... words which pierced her heart ... coz she was in her mind already a freeloader .. living of the largesse of her relatives .. a tag which she was working so hard to obliterate as it was also associated with her mother ...

This girl asks a friend for help . a friend who promised her .. HE WOULD'NT let her loose ... but this friend goes & throws money at her problem ... draw a parallel here to the party scene ... & now u will get SUMAN's POV ... why she was so disappointed .. she did not fight with him .. she thanked him as well ... she spoke to him at a spot where they were friends ...coz his friendship meant the world to her .. as a friend she got what he did ... but in doing so ... he removed the equality that defined their friendship ...

Now think about it .. how is what Shravan did any different from a result pov from what the other Tiwari's were planning to do ?????

Thank u so much Sanika for highlighting 2 of the most important aspects of a serial watch ... that there is no right & wrong in the protagonists of a show ..they r just being what their character demands ...

The above was an effort to be a devils advocate ... & spark this discussion further

Thank you so much redwine and Sanika for making me understand few of the things which i overlooked. Am glad I read our posts.