why do tv actor's fans hate it when they do a negative role? - Page 2

Created

Last reply

Replies

23

Views

1.8k

Users

12

Likes

60

Frequent Posters

LiveLifeHonest thumbnail
Visit Streak 180 Thumbnail 8th Anniversary Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 7 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: luvakanksha

maya was negative jennifer as maya was a vamp she got an award for best negative performance category

n no her insecurities n rationale was not explained but still people loved to hate maya since the negative character was strong n had a story
so demanding a proper n strong negative character is ok but wishing that ur fav must nvr play negative is a little bit too much


Nope, JW received it for Critics award for Best Actress. And they did use her abusive childhood to explain why Maya was quite dark initially. They ruined Maya's character later on but her initial feelings could be understood somewhat. But still, JW only did the role as the story revolved around Maya and it was from her POV. If it had been from Arjun or Saanjh's POV, I wonder if she would have hesitated. Because she would have come off as the vamp instead of the main lead.

And to be honest, I do sympathise with the fans somewhat because proper and strong negative characters are hard to come by in serials nowadays. If there had been a proper and gradual buildup for Vyom's characterisation, he would have been a strong negative lead. But in Indian serials, they mostly fail to justify the negative leads. The characters are just turned negative randomly without any proper buildup and most of them aren't shown smart at all. They just do the same antics many villains have been doing for many years. Vyom just came off as a stereotypical villain yesterday instead of a proper negative character. Come on, just revealing his crimes like that? Having no rationale for some of his past actions. If the makers had shown him sneakily countering Shivanya's efforts to find the killer and manipulating Sharanya, he would have come across as a strong and smart lead.

But still, I agree that fans can't force their idol from acting in negative roles. But ultimately, it's their choice to watch or not watch. I'm going to stop watching as there is no thrill for me and the characters don't resonate with me due to the shoddy script and poor build-up of characters.
Edited by LiveLifeHonest - 7 years ago
luvakanksha thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 7 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: LiveLifeHonest


Nope, JW received it for Critics award for Best Actress. And they did use her abusive childhood to explain why Maya was quite dark initially. They ruined Maya's character later on but her initial feelings could be understood somewhat. But still, JW only did the role as the story revolved around Maya and it was from her POV. If it had been from Arjun or Saanjh's POV, I wonder if she would have hesitated. Because she would have come off as the vamp instead of the main lead.

And to be honest, I do sympathise with the fans somewhat because proper and strong negative characters are hard to come by in serials nowadays. If there had been a proper and gradual buildup for Vyom's characterisation, he would have been a strong negative lead. But in Indian serials, they mostly fail to justify the negative leads. The characters are just turned negative randomly without any proper buildup and most of them aren't shown smart at all. They just do the same antics many villains have been doing for many years. Vyom just came off as a stereotypical villain yesterday instead of a proper negative character. Come on, just revealing his crimes like that? Having no rationale for some of his past actions. If the makers had shown him sneakily countering Shivanya's efforts to find the killer and manipulating Sharanya, he would have come across as a strong and smart lead.

But still, I agree that fans can't force their idol from acting in negative roles. But ultimately, it's their choice to watch or not watch. I'm going to stop watching as there is no thrill for me and the characters don't resonate with me due to the shoddy script and poor build-up of characters.

See if u read summary of beyhad maya is mentioned as negative all articles n news channels call maya negative
Also negative characters dont need justification thats y theu r negative. But yeah they shd b strong for sure where its difficult or may b impossible to beat them.
LiveLifeHonest thumbnail
Visit Streak 180 Thumbnail 8th Anniversary Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 7 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: luvakanksha

See if u read summary of beyhad maya is mentioned as negative all articles n news channels call maya negative

Also negative characters dont need justification thats y theu r negative. But yeah they shd b strong for sure where its difficult or may b impossible to beat them.


Maya initially was the perfect example of a grey lead. She only became negative later on because of the crimes she did. She was only acknowledged as a negative character after that. But I guess it's true negative characters don't need a justification but it adds more depth to the character. As for the strong negative leads, this is where Indian TV is lacking. Most of them are stereotypical and offer nothing new. Hence, they come off more as irritating than strong.
JustRandomGirl thumbnail
Posted: 7 years ago
#14
It's not only with Ek Deewaana Tha, but also with other shows too. Most fans can't digest the fact their fav is gonna play a negative role. Idk why. Infact they should be happy, that their fav took up a challenging role with different shades, even when they are slaying it. Tbh, I was a Namik fan before Ek Deewaana The began, but after seeing the last 2-3 episodes I ended up being a Vikram fan. Namik's an amazing actor no doubt, but here Vikram did a splendid job, I loved his acting of his negative side. Namik is someone who likes to choose grey characters or light grey characters from what i think. It would be wrong to say shiv is positive. Shiv is also kind of a grey character.To make Sharanya realise about him, he can scare her out even thougj he doesnt want to, or even hitting vyom when he gets close to sharanya (thats cause he's protecting her) but has no intention to hurt her. That's grey. Light grey you can say.
athai thumbnail
Explorer Thumbnail
Posted: 7 years ago
#15
It is because of our misguided notion that if we support someone who did wrong, even in TV or movie, we are supporting wrong: supporting a negative character shows that your thoughts are negative as well. This common assumption on a subconscious level leads us, mostly people belonging to the region of South, southeast and east asian regions. You move on to Turkish drama, English or American drama, white, grey or black, actors wear their characters with pride and are loved for their characters.

Damon Salvatore from the Vampire Diaries was one of the darkest male leads I have seen in my life and yet I loved him and so did millions of his fans. Elena, who became his girlfriend later on in the series was the typical good girl who hated him for his negativity and yet fell in love with him and it took her time to accept her feelings and deal with them because she wanted to be with him but accepting him for who he was was not so easy for her. This, this is what character development is. Damon is a being,Elena is a being and they have their own strengths and weaknesses, and their own likes and dislikes. How had problems like any normal couple as opposed to Hindi serial couples who never have any conflict regarding even what to have for dinner, let alone have any ideological conflict. They never need to sit down to discuss where and how they are different and how they struggling to be a part of each other's lives. The only times the mushy mushy indian couple fight is when a third person comes between them and purposefully creates a conflict or even if not purposefully or intentionally, the conflict is always the result of a third person. I initially like Yeh Hain Mohabbatein because Raman and Ishita were characters with depth and fought even after being in love because they viewed issues differently and wanted to handle issues differently. I started watching Dil Sambhal Ja Zara again because there is character depth and development. With EDT I expected that depth, non-linear multidimensional characters in Shiv, Vyom and Sharanya and even Rajan, Madhvi...unfortunately it failed to meet my expectation.

Although I divulged from your question...my apologies, I think it is the morality indicator culturally instilled within us that refuses to accept that we support someone negative and we forget to draw the line that the character is negative and not the actor. And also, we have this tendency to think if something or someone is wrong, we need to fix them. We can't handle the idea of loving negative characters. I don't see anything wrong with someone falling for Vyom, the psycho that he is. Yes, the girl's life will be messed up, sure, but that she will realise after falling in love, right? It's time Indian television stop blurring the lines between a mental patient and murderer and start blurring lines between good and bad because most of the time, human beings are between that line: in the grey line.
sanchita1410 thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 7 years ago
#16
U totally took it wrong. See I personally hate vyom's negative avtar. But that doesn't mean I have any doubt in vikram's acting talent. I know he is a talented actor and he would nail negative role perfectly. But not here. May be some other show where he will be negative from beginning. Here vyom was projected as sweet caring guys who even fought with Devi ma for his love. Here turning Vyom negative they mocked good, marriage rituals even animal's sensitivity. I am big fan of SRK and I love his negative role in Darr,Baazigar but I hate Anjam. It's called choice. Maya was a negative char and it's always neants to be. I loved to hate her
A4Anjie thumbnail
Screen Detective Participant Thumbnail Visit Streak 180 Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 7 years ago
#17
Main reason, I don't like Vyom being negative is - it will make this story ...more predictable ...
Having great actors on board here...I wished to see something unexpected ... we never thought of...
spnfan thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Most Posts (July 2022) Thumbnail + 6
Posted: 7 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: Arpi1234

It's not TV, but bollywood also. Fans are emotionally connected to their favorites and that's why probably they don't like their favorites playing negetive role. They always want them to be positive. These are the reasons many Indian actors scared to do different kind of roles limiting themselves to few type of roles..

i dont think its the same in movies. Srk fans will any day pic his negative/grey characters over his romantic roles.
Priyanka and kajol were loved more than kareen and manisha in aitraaz and gupt.
The problem is Hindi serials dont know how to handle a grey or a negative role properly. There is no dept in such roles.
Srk in darr had depth even though he was an out an out psycho. The character had the capability to over shadow the hero of the movie so much so that we felt bad when good won over evil.

Edited by spnfan - 7 years ago
664269 thumbnail
Posted: 7 years ago
#19
I agree with you.
Who said you that Vikram fans do not enjoy his character's negative shade? If you look around, 90% of the fans are rejoicing that finally there is some spice and juice in Vyom's character and Vikram is getting so much to perform. There will always be divided opinions, so yes some fans are disappointed too but that does not mean that nobody has accepted Vyom's character as what he is. You cannot expect 100% positive response for a lover boy turned into a hardcore psychopath, but as I know a good bunch of Vikram fans, both from his past and present show, i see everyone is loving this development.
Mages thumbnail
19th Anniversary Thumbnail Elite Thumbnail + 7
Posted: 7 years ago
#20
why do we need even a negative character in EDT...this show can run w/o leads turning negative...can't prateek focus on the grey shades in his 3 leads...humans are grey...neither they are pure white nor pure black...there is no need of a psychopath killer on loose for a lame reason...it doesn't make sense at all

why can't indian makers can't write a proper role of a grey shade character...its either white or black and they sell it to the audience as grey...they don't even understand the meaning of grey

coming to vyom...who says vikram fans having problems in him doing a negative role...he is giving a brilliant performance...he deserves all the accolades...but at the same performance can't save a script fill with loopholes...bloopers...neither there is depth in the character nor justification...how can one accept such character when the script is so predictable n weak...it offers nothing more in the story

vyom has obsessive nature for sharanya...they can deal the situation in a grey way rather than making it totally black...there are so many loopholes in the script in which there is no explanation n justification why vyom is like that...why vyom is doing this...all we know he has a mental disorder n he is a psychopath killer...

all they show in a indian show is one dimension character...thats it...EDT is no difference...furthermore vyom being the killer is so predictable

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".