@ Vrish (& mnx) - u dint quite understand

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Viewbie note: I was out this week, and am just back today, and therefore late to address this, but late or not, this is important, so here goes.

Mamta

I'm the viewbie of this forum, who is responsible to ensure that this forum doesn't become an unpleasant place to visit. I happened to read all your original posts b4 you edited them. You managed to needlessly create a hostile environment where none existed b4 - and I say that as someone who partly agrees w/ your original contention that distorting these stories is making a mockery of the epics. The references to Draupadi being sexually molested was really uncalled for in making your otherwise pretty valid point that the production house is playing fast & loose w/ sacred stories. There have been bad enough distortions to the serial & the story already, w/o painting this hypothetical scenario.

But even more unacceptable was your starting a direct confrontation w/ other members, who were not even fully disagreeing w/ you. Personally, I do not like mytho movies & serials being distorted, but since every one of them has been - from the ones made in the 70s to the ones today, I've long ceased to expect authenticity from any of them. But this is not to say I condone it. The other members too have been pretty much annoyed @ these distortions, but rather than throw a hissy fit about it, they are laughing @ it. You may choose not to do so, and that's a perfectly legitimate & valid reaction. But painting such disgusting scenarios to buttress your case is really not acceptable for reasons that will be clear below.

As for your posting, anyone is free to visit here, and post - or not! Given your tantrums, you've clearly demonstrated that we're not going to miss much if you don't. At any rate, if you do decide to come back, do keep 2 things in mind while posting:
  • Do not start unnecessary fights. Arguments over whether something is true or not is acceptable debate - and I tend to allow these more than what I-F typically does, even if it tends to be a heated argument, as long as facts are not a casualty of these arguments. That is admittedly stretching I-F rules, but I'm willing to do it and defend it happening on any forum I monitor, since I assume I can draw a line b/w a debate vs a flamefest
  • Do not paint R-rated hypothetical scenarios. Underaged kids do visit this site, and therefore, we do what we can to keep it clean. In mythology, sometimes it's difficult, since the texts sometimes are pretty explicit about certain sexual activities (e.g. How Drona was born). However, what you wrote was simply gratuitous.
Ultimately, this forum is predominated by those who watch it for either religious reasons, or b'cos they are mytho buffs. All are welcome, but that doesn't give anyone the license to create a surly environment.

I'm freezing this thread. If you have any doubts, PM me, and I'll be happy to address them. So far, this forum doesn't have a rules & regulations thread, and I'd prefer not to create one, since it hasn't been necessary so far, and hopefully won't be going forward.

Please don't force me to do it!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ Vrish :
I did not want to reply to ur posts becos my clarifications were already unintentionally there in both of ur posts - but sincce u siad u were out of town i thought this onw time i will write back - wouldnt do that in future (NO MATTER WHAT )...!!! and no, am NOT goin to p.m. u...:)
First of all and most importantly I HOLD DRAUPADIJI in utmost regard and i feel she was the most beautiful, gracious and kind lady - at the same time of being spontaneous and unafraid to speak her mind - She was ahead of times more than the so-called 'modern woman'...HER GREATEST ASSET BEING LORD KRISHNA WAS HER BEST FRIEND...
I do agree that i did create a very unusual scenario - just how UNACCEPTABLE THAT SCENARIO is - IN THE SAME WAY I CARE ABOUT SUSHEELAJI"S PORTRAYAL bacos SHE IS our SUDAMAJI"S WIFE...how can SP just manipulate the characters without any reference whatsoever...EVEN CHILDREN ARE WATCHING THIS PROGRAM>>>>DONT U FEEL WHAT THEIR YOUNG MINDS WILL THINK OF KRISHNA_SUDAMA STORY... BUT I NEVER MENTIONED ANY R-word or any words ( mnx had done those honors while also taunting why i dint mentiuon those words as if i am taking an exam of children ) - SO THERE GOES - thats y i said ur posts against me were actually unntentionally clarifying my stance also...so U KNOW I DO CARE ABT THE underage polpulation coming online and reading the contents ...
and y i called some of the members comments immature - i hv very valid and strong reasons for that - but i do not want to mention anymore...
I'm very happy u froze that thread - if u could delete it entirely - or just remove my comments / posts/ membership entirely...i wud be even more happy...JAI SHREE HARI...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Well, nothing that you wrote above contradicts anything I had said about you from that post. I had guessed that you are riled @ Susheela's character being maligned, and you just confirmed it. Like I told you, painting a picture of Draupadi being sexually molested, and then using the R word w/ ___ was overdoing it. Mnx was right - simply using ____ left little to the imagination, so what exactly was the point? Either spit it out completely, or don't use it in the first place. (Incidentally, why are your clarifications unintentionally there - is it your style to be obtuse when you are writing? Or is that something you expect of others writing about you? If you were referring to me, nothing I wrote there was unintentional - I had guessed your stance, and wanted you to know that I understood where you were coming from)

I understood your explanation above the first time I read it - I had guessed that you were equating Susheela's portrayal w/ that hypothetical portrayal of Draupadi. And yeah, like I said there, I agreed that I do not like such distorted messages being sent out by the PH. For that matter, even Sudama is really depicted as a fraud, if one thinks about it - it would be like the Ambanis taking a begging bowl & going door to door. A lot of people don't like this depiction any more than you do, as is evidenced by both falling TRPs and falling activity in this forum.

I'm puzzled by what you deem kid appropriate - since you think they're watching this and thinking that this was the story of Susheela, you seem to think that using the R word along w/ ___ is? As for calling other posters immature, I couldn't read that as anything less than a personal attack, which is against I-F rules. See the third bullet in the note that appears next to the quick reply box @ the bottom of a page when you are logged in.

As for your posts, they'll stay - as it is, you've masked them, so I don't see the point of deleting them, w/o deleting all other posts in the thread in question.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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so vrish u said it all
by the way i was like 😲😕 by reading the title 😆

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