8/26/2011: Garuda comes to Krishna/Satyabhama - Page 2

Originally posted by: _Vrish_

Debi

Given the distorted messages that they've been (probably inadvertantly) delivering in this serial, I'm rather glad that they're not trying to 'teach' us anything.

Yes, correct 😆

And given this girl, had she shown any higher purpose in wanting to kill Narakasura due to his persecution of women, she'd not have looked credible @ all.

Agree with you 😊

As it is, in the original, the reason Krishna took Satyabhama w/ him w/o her asking was that she was miffed @ Indra disrupting their romantic moment together, so he surprised her by putting her on Garuda and taking her w/ him.

Where is this particular reason stated? I guess it is not there in SB:

http://vedabase.com/en/sb/10/59/summary

(Krishna taking Satyabhama is mentioned in 2nd Sloka of this Chapter only as a fact, no reason is shown).

But I do agree that Krishna is shown uncharacterestically weak and indecisive:

Yes, that is what I also tried to point out.

...after the first few episodes where he used to tweak Balarama, now he's @ sea when arguing w/ Satyabhama. And he used such lame arguments for her not going w/ him - like the distance of Pragjyotisha - he could have told her that she had just started and was inexperienced in warfare. Of course, this Satyabhama would just have told him anyway that there is nothing to it 😆

Had Arjun approached this Satyabhama for her help b4 the Kurukshetra war, he'd have gotten not only all the Yadavas behind him, but also Satyabhama herself. Bheeshma would have been done in by a combination of Sikhandi and Satyabhama. 🤣

Originally posted by: Tannistha

epi on friday was nice. i think sagars are reading our forum discussion( which they should) and trying to implement it, if not sagars, the actors atleast. satyabhama, i think the girl,atleast,look wise and atiitude wise is quite a good cast, she brings the spoiled brat of rich father and spoiled brat of a wife to life in a way. BUt BUT BUT, she needs to work hard on her diction, like a lot. and if she has lisps saying words like astra shastra, she should act relaxed and mouth them slowly.

can the apsaras turn into divine devis just like that? life would have been so easier, seeing they are the biggest target of all the bad guys, and always are taken captive.

i am just miffed at seeing bhudevi coming every second and trying to give narakasura her advice. Doesnt she have the whole earth to nurture? and narakasura is such a grown man, why does he alws screech like a teenaged girl?????

but i loved todays epi, it was kind of entertaining, and the flute music, is amazing. whoever did it, hats off, thats the best part of the serial right now.

Originally posted by: _Vrish_

In the original texts, all of this happens in a vacuum. Of course, Ugrasena is the ruler, but Krishna doesn't tell him either, nor take his leave. Since Krishna is not the ruler, he's a lone ranger, and at liberty to go anywhere anytime he feels like. That's how he goes to the forests where the Pandavas are, wages his various wars against Paundra Vasudeva and others. Dwarka was run not so much by Krishna, Balarama or even Ugrasena, but the council of different tribal chieftains - this has been discussed a bit in the Doubts & Discussions thread.

Originally posted by: _charu_

where r all other characters gone? or dd will leave his and satyabhama's copy in dwarika 😕 dun they need to tell balram etc. that they r going for a yudh?

Originally posted by: _Vrish_

_charu_

This part is not the Sagar's fault - in the original scriptures, there is no mention of Krishna taking leave of anyone - Ugrasena, Vasudev or Balarama. In Narakasura's case, after the Devas approached him, he just left w/ Satyabhama on Garuda, while in other cases, like Paundra Vasudeva and so on, he just left whenever he got a message, and needed to leave. Since he was known by one and all to be an avatar of Vishnu, nobody questioned him on his whereabouts.

As for the characters, unlike in fictional shows, where the PH tends to keep characters involved as long as they need them, given the fact that they need to pay them as long as they are on the payroll, regardless of whether they are idling or not, they don't have that option here. Therefore, in those shows, when a character is no longer needed, the actor is released, and can move on to other things. In these stories, however, an actor may have a long break but be needed @ the end. Think Ramayan, where the 3 queen mothers, Urmila, Bharat, Shatrughan and their wives would have been completely idle after Rama's exile, but would have been needed after his return. So the choice for a PH would have been to either keep all of them on the contract so that they are available when that time comes, or have new actors playing those roles after the exile. Thankfully, that didn't need to happen.

In the case of Krishna, it's even more difficult, since he is the only constant throughout the story, and the people around him, except Balarama, keep changing depending on the scenario. In his childhood, it was Balarama and his friends in Gokul/Vrindavan, in his Gurukul, it was Balarama and Sudama, in his wars w/ Jarasandha and Rukmi, it was again Balarama and it remained that way until the Syamantaka gem episodes. After that was Draupadi's swayamvara, and Krishna's acquaintence w/ Arjun, and their friendship started, and Arjun was largely a companion of Krishna during Yudhisthir's rule @ Indraprastha. He helped Krishna win 3 of his major wives, and there were all those stories about them, like Arjun's encounter w/ Hanuman, the incident w/ Arjun & Krishna helping a Brahmin recover his children and so on. So during this stretch, there was no Balarama (during the time the Pandavas were in Ekachakra, Balarama was training Duryodhan in mace fighting, but I wonder how they can show that if he is the king of Dwarka?) In fact, Balarama only appears a few times - when rescuing Samba from the Kauravas, when Arjun & Duryodhan approach him for support, after Bhima hit Duryodhan on his thighs, and finally after the Yadava fratricide.

And w/ the women in Krishna's life, the story ain't any more consistent. First it was the gopis and Radha, then after a break during which he enjoyed Devaki's & Rohini's affection, then Rukmini's, then all his other wives as they married him. But after that, Rukmini's major role was in the birth of Pradhyumna and culminated when he returned to her after killing Shambara. Satyabhama met Draupadi in the forest - there was that chapter in the Mahabharata on their meeting, so she'd have quite a bit to do there - just listen, and maybe ask questions. But after that, there's not much of a role for Krishna's queens, except maybe at the marriages of Samba & Lakshmanaa, Abhimanyu w/ Uttara, Anirudha w/ Usha and any others.

So in this serial, what's left is the Pandavas, particularly Arjun and Bhima, and I do hope they pick good actors for those 2 roles. Oh, and Satyaki too is important. I hope to see Lalit Negi, who played Shatrughan in ASR, play Arjun, while some other good actors are picked for Bhima & Satyaki. Draupadi - since Geet ends in October, it would be interesting to see Dhrasti do Draupadi's role 😆 One thing I wonder - will DBSK do what RSK did, and tranform the serial into the Mahabharat for a while? I know it'll be true from the time Abhimanyu marries Uttara, b'cos from then on, after Arjun and Duryodhan approached Krishna for support, Krishna was always w/ the Pandavas. So that stretch - particularly the war stretch - will be exciting. Given that that stretch will be all about the heroic deeds of Arjun, I'm particularly disappointed that the serial didn't showcase a lot of Krishna's heroic deeds. Hopefully, they do justice to Narakasura, Shalva, Paundra Vasudeva and others.

Originally posted by: chemestry

i don't think the show is too bad that u have stop watching the show.
they r showing the tale of lord krishna and his personal life too.
so i don't think that it is kind of artificial

the only thing is that we people always seen his god image but never as human
n i think even krishna has lived his life like us only and i think the art of love during those day is true love.

beside lord krishna as god he was mischievious guy , a romantic man ,the power king,
its only upto us we cab digest it or not.
i don't think so that many cannot see his/her god romancing his wives as his image is of God.
but this show is what the true story is