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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: pippa

Lovely analysis as usual.
I don't know why people felt the episode was rushed. I only felt the restaurant scene could have been shown a little more..may be a romantic dance (as promised by Jaya Misra) to set the mood. by Arjun. In fact, when Radz was singing "Mein nachungi.." I thought they did have the dance which she'd enjoyed and the cvs had edited it out.

And, when Arjun stopped the car with the headlights still on, I thought, here comes that dance..Arjun wanting to make her wish come true.😆

What I liked specially about the restaurant scene, apart from those happy smiles and relaxed laughs of Arjun and the goofy drunkenness of Radz, was Arjun's very heartfelt words.." When you call me Arjun, it will have its own special maza."

I hope the cvs remember this remark of his and use it later because, to me, it was important to Arjun, because having Radz call him by his name would indicate her complete acceptance and recognition of her feelings for him and an open and voluntary acknowledgement of it. I can almost imagine the expression on his face when he'll hear it for the first time and when the connotations hit him.
I think, for Arjun and, specially for Radz, just saying "Arjun" will be akin to "I love you!"

On the surface, Arjun defying her to cross over the line to him seemed like him asking her to take that final step to make their relationship real and complete and for a while, Radz was under the same impression...which is what made her say that it wasn't THAT sort of marriage.

Until they were in the bedroom and on the bed itself, till the moment he suddenly covered her with the duvet, she was one tense girl. and he wanted her to believe he had those intentions towards her. By no means would he have gone the full gamut even if she showed her willingness.

I'm upset that the cvs chose to edit out that bit where Arjun runs his fingers over Radz' arm and down her knees deliberately, maintaining the impression that he was out to seduce her, only to cover her up and tell her to go to sleep. That was unexpected to her and to those of us who hadn't seen the videos first.

I felt Sam was between them, more with Radz than with Arjun, at least at the beginning. She brought up sam's name saying "I can't let you go to her." And, when he got up from the bed to (probably sleep on the sofa,) she held his hand, shocking him and us, I felt she had capitulated and had crossed that invisible line, not because she wanted to, for herself but had finally got the courage to do her wifely duties if that would keep him from going to Sam.
I felt that's why he suddenly covered her lips with his fingers to stop her from saying what she may regret later...because,didn't he say, "If one is not comfortable doing something that goes against their wishes, then one must not do it." or words to that effect. I remember thinking at that point, why don't you follow what you are saying and forget the revenge business.

I think, it was when he said the next lines, what kind of a man would a person be if he had to force such things, that radz' doubts about his innate goodness got cleared. That made her say, you are not just a man but are a very good man. And that look of anxiety, to my mind was that of a girl who has just begun to realise what that man meant to her and that she had no hopes of getting him or his love.

Btw, a brilliant take on the position in which they lay👏...both knew that they loved the other and those pillows between them signify the hurdles that still lay between then.

Thanks, esprit for explaining Arjun's enigmatic last line that may be one day he'll have to see himself through her eyes...it was a hint that he's beginning to put revenge aside and when he put away those papers after staring at them and covering them with his hand, it was the final stamp on his decision.

I hope the cvs won't disappoint us today and show him go back to square one and rattofy the revenge jaap.

I know I only spoke about our favourite toothsome twosome ...can't blame me...they are too beautiful...I have to mention the other two toothsome couple...Neil touched my heart..said so much without giving away too much. sam still obtuse but getting scared...did she actually walk out on him?

Samrat is definitely a better father than a husband ... but, .how did he know Neil loved Sam? Did he always know that or was he being used as a catalyst by the cvs just to hurry the process of Sam's realization?😕

The last scene..was 😳😃 I'm glad that Arjun didn't look shocked or surprised when nandidni told him that he's fallen in love with Radz. he just looked at his wife like a typical loving husband.
He dismissed her comment about being in love with sam like he was swatting at an annoying fly but his intense and yet serene look at her next statement was very telling.

Again, sorry again for the looong essay.😆




I LOVE your essay!!!!! Neil was awesome yesterday! It's really cool that this guy FINALLY straight up told Sam what was on his mind!!!!! Hats off to Neil for that!!! ❤️
ArDhika - They so adorable!!!! 😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
#12
Not sure how many times I watched their scenes from yesterday's episode.. I had to remind myself it's an Indian daily TV serial..
Aham n Monica emote with such ease.. none of it seemed forced, none of it fake.. it's subtle.. intense.. beautiful.. mature.. real, all at the same time. They make us believe they are Arjun n Radhika and all that between them is happenin for real.. Am so going to miss these two..

Can't wait for their confession magic to unveil.. Looking forward..

PS - On a lighter note, Dil to pagal hai seems to have a deep impact on one of the CVs. The store room kuch hua conversation n then yesterday's aur paas.. ;-)


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Wow, I just read ALL the comments - and am so glad we are able to discuss this show and the depth of its stories on here!! I LOVED all your comments. And most of you pointed out everything that i missed writing in, but the exact thoughts went through my mind while watching the show. Like I said there was a lot that happened and it was really hard for my brain to keep up that late at night trying to word out my thoughts.

Anyway i apologize I may not be able to reply to all the comments - another busy Saturday for me (get-togethers and such!) - but it doesn't mean i have not read them. Just don't have time today ... and by the time i get to it, you guys will probably have watched today's episode. But i will still try to quickly comment on something, which i may have completely missed!


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: raji_sudha

Really I didnot find anything rushed yesterday epi.Infact I enjoyed it a lot.Never watch any Indian show which has this much potential connectivity.Am so so loved in this story pace.You chose very apt title for this post.The triple 3'c excatly true everything is about choice,chances they have which will change their life.I will miss this show yaar😭 .Actually arjun learned something which will changes his life."When ur heart did not want to allow you to do anything you dont need to do it" This wat he uttered to her but he followed that to by hiding that divorce paper.I really enjoyed the show as U say I avoided the spoiler videos.Cvs did a splendid job well directed I love arjun smile while he adore his lady love.As U say its never about sex the direction is just add the positive points aham ,Monica,sharavan,kashmira everyone did perfect justice to their act.I really touched by this show


OMG that was such a great dialogue - in fact all his lines were awesome and had so much depth to it. And ITA with your post!

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: hanishank

@esprit...very nice analysis...
I was waiting for this from yesterday...finally got now,thank u

missing battu di as well..

yes...it's arjun whom we should appreciate more in yesterday's epi...every expression came naturally from him...even the minors also...teasing part with radhika and the depth in his dialogue ...arjun sun neka maza Hi kuch aur hai...I guess the dialogue touched radhika also...

even hiding divorce papers under pillow...it looked very natural...and in the morning he went to office without taking and talking to radhika coz he really changed and not interested in revenge...
and in office he was keep on looking at radhika... so cute


I LOVED that he even ignored Nandini's haath ka breakfast - LOL ... just like I am not hungry - go away you, you're spoiling my view!! 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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A brilliantly analysed post, my friend. 👏
You just echoed my thoughts!!
It was such a delightful epi to watch. Yes, I was a bit agitated after watching that washroom fiasco. To be honest, it wasn't Arjun trying to woo back Sam for the sake of revenge that bothered me but I guess, it was the manner in which the scene was shot, the proximity which didn't go down well with me . You pointed it out correctly in another post of yours, it was all about testing boundaries.
Coming to today's epi- what a treat, it was! Some really good episodes are being churned out by the team!
Arjun, Arjun what do I say about this man. He is just like ogres, onion or say parfaits. You need to peel away each layer to understand the real him. He is one such character who is like a poem in motion, you miss a word , an action of his and you miss the essence of this man. This very failure of our viewing led us to make an error of judgement about his character. He is in no way an immoral man. Today we just saw that. His words were clear, 'ya mujhe apna lo, ya is shadi ko khatam kar do'. He wasn't forcing her to venture into the territory of conjoined souls but was rather asking her if she was really ready to breathe the oxygen in marriage. When Radhika took those steps towards him he felt like tasting those aches which were turning gangrenous in his heart. But all the while he wasn't sure whether she has really covered those stretches of miles hence he backs off.
Like you, I too was surprised when Radhika stopped him and I my heart swelled with proud when I heard the conversation that followed!
Today, the emotions of every character reached a vaporising point. It definitely is going to be an interesting journey to watch!!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: 26hrishikesh





I said rushed in a good sense.Coz it was much needed so tat cvs can show the confession and all slowly so tat we can enjoy every bit of their love.I said rushed coz in yesterday's episode there was literally no crap scene or dialogue and it was a content filled episode.Cvs really need an applause for yesterday's episode coz they almost covered all the loop holes in single episode.Heavy job neatly done.
May be I watched the online videos which made me feel the bed scene ( while they were laying) Not edited properly coz there were much good angles than they showed on the show.But while they were standing it was very good.
I also agree with u tat he didn't mean sex when he said all those coz he dialogues was to choose btw whether she wants to stay or go away.And when she took steps forward his all worries were gone and was not in a dilemma any more.And I said in my post he was giving ultimatum with no emotions so tat she can take decision but when she moved forward decision making was to be made by him.I loved the fact tat Arj took decision today.And I must say Arj is the best character I have ever come across on TV and Aham the best actor.Even radz played her part well.Only when she said sir while being drunk I didn't like but everything else she was good .She tried to match Aham in all sense.But yesterday's show stealer was really Arjun and the cvs.
And when radz stopped him I almost skipped a beat and was surprised more than Arjun.Ya I agree tat she almost confessed her feelings coz she said " Ab aap nahin jaa sakte sir" . No Sam was present in tat dialogue but I made a mistake in my post by adding SAMs name.She was really wishing for his proximity more than him Eventhough she was tensed and at tat time she was completely in love with him.We can see the happiness in her face due to love when nandu asks her abt Arj.And wat to say abt Arj even after having his love by his side he behaved really as a gentleman.He respects her as much as he loves her and together they make us crazy.Never ever seen in TV such a heavenly pair not only in terms of looks but also in terms of their understanding and respect and love for each other and compatibility.I am going to miss them terribly.
I really want a good confession scene and a good romance with no tensions no disturbance and no worries in btw them.



The bolded parts above - ITA!

Actually i was confused too as to what RAdz was trying to say when he shushed her - considering RAdhika, she might even have mentioned Sam and that is what ARjun prob didn't want to hear. Anyway, i think yesterday we got a more in depth look into Arjun's dilemma and maybe today the focus will be Radhika. Can't wait!!
Edited by esprit_00 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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My thoughts written in Bold ^


👏 👏 Loved reading your thoughts!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Btw dear i missed one radz dialouge in morning when nandini asked about arjun."Kal raath arjun sir met some one good" means he realised a good in him.Hence her face glowing with pride and love she have for him.Yo i was waiting for the moment and arjuns expression when he will be called arjun by her.esprit ur analysis are too good loved reading it
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Posted: 10 years ago
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OMG Pippa - you touched on some points, which i missed altogether. my thoughts in green-bold below!!!



Originally posted by: pippa

Lovely analysis as usual.
I don't know why people felt the episode was rushed. I only felt the restaurant scene could have been shown a little more..may be a romantic dance (as promised by Jaya Misra) to set the mood. by Arjun. In fact, when Radz was singing "Mein nachungi.." I thought they did have the dance which she'd enjoyed and the cvs had edited it out.

I completely forgot about that ... but yeah i really hope it wasn't edited out, and there is one that is on our way!!!

And, when Arjun stopped the car with the headlights still on, I thought, here comes that dance..Arjun wanting to make her wish come true.😆

What I liked specially about the restaurant scene, apart from those happy smiles and relaxed laughs of Arjun and the goofy drunkenness of Radz, was Arjun's very heartfelt words.." When you call me Arjun, it will have its own special maza."

I hope the cvs remember this remark of his and use it later because, to me, it was important to Arjun, because having Radz call him by his name would indicate her complete acceptance and recognition of her feelings for him and an open and voluntary acknowledgement of it. I can almost imagine the expression on his face when he'll hear it for the first time and when the connotations hit him.
I think, for Arjun and, specially for Radz, just saying "Arjun" will be akin to "I love you!"

Oh definitely agree here - even with all the liquor she couldn't speak out his name! But when she does say it, from her perspective, it will show she has crossed that line of being in love completely and it won't be as difficult for her to say it. I LOVED Arjun's words there that you quoted!

On the surface, Arjun defying her to cross over the line to him seemed like him asking her to take that final step to make their relationship real and complete and for a while, Radz was under the same impression...which is what made her say that it wasn't THAT sort of marriage.

Until they were in the bedroom and on the bed itself, till the moment he suddenly covered her with the duvet, she was one tense girl. and he wanted her to believe he had those intentions towards her. By no means would he have gone the full gamut even if she showed her willingness. I agree - he intentionally made her think that is what he wanted, though we know he would never do that to her or anyone!

I'm upset that the cvs chose to edit out that bit where Arjun runs his fingers over Radz' arm and down her knees deliberately, maintaining the impression that he was out to seduce her, only to cover her up and tell her to go to sleep. That was unexpected to her and to those of us who hadn't seen the videos first. Honestly without watching those videos, that scene made it more about Arjun's feelings for her in the moment, rather than the game it started out as! And I am glad it was edited out because to me the scene became more of Arjun wanting to hold on to RAdhika without actually touching her in ways which may make her further uncomfortable. But just for my Ardhika obsession I will watch that video now that the episode is done - cuz i love their chemistry.

I felt Sam was between them, more with Radz than with Arjun, at least at the beginning. She brought up sam's name saying "I can't let you go to her." And, when he got up from the bed to (probably sleep on the sofa,) she held his hand, shocking him and us, I felt she had capitulated and had crossed that invisible line, not because she wanted to, for herself but had finally got the courage to do her wifely duties if that would keep him from going to Sam.

I wondered about that too - but i think Arjun had similar thoughts as us, which is why he covered her mouth. After everything that had transpired between these two, I didn't think he wanted to hear anyone else's name - like i said for Arjun, this was only between him & Radhika!

I felt that's why he suddenly covered her lips with his fingers to stop her from saying what she may regret later...because,didn't he say, "If one is not comfortable doing something that goes against their wishes, then one must not do it." or words to that effect. I remember thinking at that point, why don't you follow what you are saying and forget the revenge business.

All his dialog yesterday had a meaning which reflected his own dilemma - so i think Arjun knew exactly what he was saying in all contexts!

I think, it was when he said the next lines, what kind of a man would a person be if he had to force such things, that radz' doubts about his innate goodness got cleared. That made her say, you are not just a man but are a very good man. And that look of anxiety, to my mind was that of a girl who has just begun to realise what that man meant to her and that she had no hopes of getting him or his love.

Definitely - that moment was her realization of what Arjun truly means for her. Which is why next day she looked so engrossed in her own thoughts at BS (when Arjun kept glancing at her through his office cabin).

Btw, a brilliant take on the position in which they lay👏...both knew that they loved the other and those pillows between them signify the hurdles that still lay between then.

Thanks 😊... Further, when the camera panned giving us a top view with both of them staring up - it meant that the next story to unfold will be about these two conquering these hurdles!

Thanks, esprit for explaining Arjun's enigmatic last line that may be one day he'll have to see himself through her eyes...it was a hint that he's beginning to put revenge aside and when he put away those papers after staring at them and covering them with his hand, it was the final stamp on his decision.

I hope the cvs won't disappoint us today and show him go back to square one and rattofy the revenge jaap.

I know I only spoke about our favourite toothsome twosome ...can't blame me...they are too beautiful...I have to mention the other two toothsome couple...Neil touched my heart..said so much without giving away too much. sam still obtuse but getting scared...did she actually walk out on him?

LOL, you saw how short my narrative was on the rest of the show! Even in my re-watching i only skip to Ardhika parts, 😆.

Samrat is definitely a better father than a husband ... but, .how did he know Neil loved Sam? Did he always know that or was he being used as a catalyst by the cvs just to hurry the process of Sam's realization?😕

I didn't really care - but i think the guy has more depth to him than we give him credit for ...

The last scene..was 😳😃 I'm glad that Arjun didn't look shocked or surprised when nandidni told him that he's fallen in love with Radz. he just looked at his wife like a typical loving husband.
He dismissed her comment about being in love with sam like he was swatting at an annoying fly but his intense and yet serene look at her next statement was very telling.

Hahaa ,,, that was pretty awesome - along with him refusing Nandu's revenge and breakfast! LOL

Again, sorry again for the looong essay.😆

Edited by esprit_00 - 10 years ago

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