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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnuMP

Then he deserves jail and mandatory treatment.

Also if Sam's friends then decide to attack Arjun's family in turn will they be justified as well?

Again do we know what Samrat'a past was?

This isn't jungle justice. We are humans. Unless the argument is that A as the good looking hero with a tragic past deserves special treatment.


No I am not defending Arjun as a good looking hero but I just want to say before blaming others you must think yourself in his place. Arjun wants justice for Nandini so he declared war against Samrat. Everything is fair in love and war. First crime was happened by Samrat so he deserve punishment. In MB also Sri Krishna also took so much unfair ways to punish Kouravas and many innocent ppl died in this war for making justice.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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No everything is not fair in love and war.
The people involved in the MB war knew they were fighting and show me where Govind did something illegal, not a war tactic

Arjun here is tricking Sam. Go declare open war and win his business. Or he can publicize what Samrat did. What he is doing makes him more of a criminal than Samrat.

Because Samrat deserves punishment morally but Nandini wasn't ignorant of his situation. Nor was he out to destroy on purpose.

Arjun is a criminal and also needs treatment
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sumanbuttan


No I am not defending Arjun as a good looking hero but I just want to say before blaming others you must think yourself in his place. Arjun wants justice for Nandini so he declared war against Samrat. Everything is fair in love and war. First crime was happened by Samrat so he deserve punishment. In MB also Sri Krishna also took so much unfair ways to punish Kouravas and many innocent ppl died in this war for making justice.



@bold - who decides who gets punishment and who gets to Punish. This is not MB and no body is Krishna here. I'm sure many sympathize with Arjun, whereas many others empathize. But that still does not mean he can take justice in his hands.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Reminds of the show "Revenge" where everything was shown fair in the WAR including using the children or anyone associated with the guilty...

So it all depends what revenge is for a person. It can be straight killing the person or it can be brutal, cruel and heartless filled with vengeance, apathy and lack of regret.

I may not agree with Arjun but it's his revenge. I wonder whoever watched Revenge had any sympathy with the protagonist ?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnuMP

No everything is not fair in love and war.

The people involved in the MB war knew they were fighting and show me where Govind did something illegal, not a war tactic

Arjun here is tricking Sam. Go declare open war and win his business. Or he can publicize what Samrat did. What he is doing makes him more of a criminal than Samrat.

Because Samrat deserves punishment morally but Nandini wasn't ignorant of his situation. Nor was he out to destroy on purpose.

Arjun is a criminal and also needs treatment


No need to show the unfair ways taken in MB war for winning by Pandavas because everyone knows it. If Arjun is criminal then Sanrat is the main culprit who forced Arjun to become a criminal. We don't know whether Nandini was aware of the fact from the begining that Samrat Khanna is married or not. Giving a diamond ring as a gift is not justified to a lady by a man because we know only a man gives a precious ring to an woman for engagement purpose.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sumanbuttan


No need to show the unfair ways taken in MB war for winning by Pandavas because everyone knows it. If Arjun is criminal then Sanrat is the main culprit who forced Arjun to become a criminal. We don't know whether Nandini was aware of the fact from the begining that Samrat Khanna is married or not. Giving a diamond ring as a gift is not justified to a lady by a man because we know only a man gives a precious ring to an woman for engagement purpose.



So basically what you are saying is after Arjun completely shatters Samaira as part of his big revenge plan, then Neil and Radz are perfectly justified, if they want to go take revenge on someone from Arjun's family. Bcoz acc to them Arjun did this to Sam?

There were so many other ways to take revenge on Samrat, without bringing in Sam or any other from his family. What ever happens to Samrat, would have affected his family anyway.

Like you said we don't know whether nandini knew Samrat was married or not, but looks like she did. In Arjun's Flashbacks, there was a party scene where Nandini was also present along with Samrat and his family. And I'm assuming the breakup scene must have been after that.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: THE_BOSS

according to me samrat khanna is a bigger criminal than arjun...


destroying a womans life is a worst kind of an criminal act...

this type of cheat and hypocrite ppl are the main culprit behind every crime...

and wht is arjun doing differently then
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Even if she didn't know, what Samrat did makes him a total jerk and total scum and whatnot, but still does not make him a criminal and definitely not insane.

What A did is illegal in many ways. Corporate sabotage, stalking, conspiracy to defraud, conspiracy to cause emotional and physical harm, physical assault on an employee etc etc

That he is mentally disturbed is obvious.

Do tell who were the poor innocent victims of MB who had nothing to do with the war and were murdered on Krishna's instructions (not war tactic, that doesn't count). Since a bunch of us have only been debating it for 2 years now, it's always good to hear a fresh perspective 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnuMP

Criminal law does not recognize childhood angst as justifiable cause.

Psychiatry does, but still requires that the patient be treated.

No excuses for Arjun's behavior. He is an adult. He is responsible for his decisions, actions and consequences. Morally and legally.

Completely agree with you . Arjun is a psycho. Just because he's a "hawt" muscled dude , are we going to make all these excuses for his inexcusable behavior ?? No ! He needs help , in terms of inpatient psychiatric treatment and if that doesn't help him , he needs to serve his time in prison. The way his mind thinks , it's positively harmful for the society .
Next , what ?? Arjun rapes some one and we support , flaunting his "childhood trauma " card ???
And that's why India is a country where girls always live in morbid fear .
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Well, I just stated my point of view. I never mentioned that I support Arjun in this whole revenge thingy.. I am honestly a RaNeil fan but I just posted what I felt. If this post was ever about looks and charm I think I would have posted about Neil. 😊 But sometimes things are just beyond right and wrong.
Sam and her brother got into an unexpected accident. She lost her brother in it. But can we say that she is a murderer? That she deserves to be in jail? No, it was an accident. She loves her brother still as much as a sister could but it doesn't change the fact that a life was lost that day. It wasn't in her hands to control it. We cant control everything in our lives. *Please don't bash me for saying this. I am just trying to state a point.*
Just the same way, there is a reason that Arjun had become this way. Feelings and emotions cant be controlled. If not why would people fall in love? Or feel sad when you can be happy without crying the entire life? It's not necessary for everything to have an answer.
As I said before, Arjun's wrong doing will come back to him. Do you guys seriously think by locking him up in jail is the solution? Would he even realize what he has done? He would be all happy and satisfied that at least he put his worst enemy down through Sam. Anyone who would want to hurt you would prefer to go through your loved ones. Why? Because it would pain the other person more. And he is making Samrat feel exactly how he felt, not how Nandini did. He says he is doing it for her, but in truth he is doing it for himself.
Instead of him being in jail and him face what he did is the best way he could understand his mistake. Every time he comes across Sam he would remember how he has hurt an innocent, he would be guilt ridden, and one day it would finally click to him that there is no difference between him and Samrat. He became the one whom he once despised the most. If he goes to jail he would not understand that. And he would come back the same way he went in without any regret.
It will all happen in time. Everything happens in its correct time. Nothing will happen sooner than intended to nor later. If everything about life was about right or wrong, today the world wouldn't be like this. Everything would be utterly perfect with two divisions; Right ones and the Bad ones. All the problems would be sorted in a jiffy. But sometimes things just doesn't work out the way we want them to, If not everything in life would have been perfect with no regrets.

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