Narrow minded and backwards script writers

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Girls are a "bhoj"!? The bride's side has to bow down to the groom's side? Endorsing dowry by having the girl's relatives tell the groom's side that this is their rightful demand? In fact, they were ready to take on a huge loan! Are you trying to sell your daughter here? Yeah, essentially.
Stop endorsing this! In a country where female infanticide is so prevelant, this is truly disgusting to witness. What happens to parents who can't afford to give dowry? Oh lets see, they kill their daughters before they're even born. Scumbags.


To the script writers, get a life please. What kind of message are you sending to a society where women are already considered inferior to men? Other television shows and many media outlets are trying to empower Indian women. What is this?

These writers need to be socially responsible here. Are they forgetting the current state of India?

Also, just because a girl gets married, it doesn't mean she becomes "parayi" to her parents. So tired of watching such garbage.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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The narrative is just showing all those things the family said about dowry, girl's marriage; it's not saying those views are correct. That they are wrong is not being blasted and blared out, and to be honest, I prefer it that way. There have been enough things where it's clear within the show that Urmi's family are wrong in being so acquiescent.

For me, it depends on how the show goes on. Whether they drop and allow many of these thinking to go unchallenged.

Though I don't think the above applies to the whole "parayi after marriage" stuff. I think that is some regressive crap that they all write and there's some sort of Hindi serial 101 where it says it's a must as part of marriage/wedding episodes.😵
Edited by likarsh - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: likarsh

The narrative is just showing all those things the family said about dowry, girl's marriage; it's not saying those views are correct. That they are wrong is not being blasted and blared out, and to be honest, I prefer it that way. There have been enough things where it's clear within the show that Urmi's family are wrong in being so acquiescent.


For me, it depends on how the show goes on. Whether they drop and allow many of these thinking to go unchallenged.

Though I don't think the above applies to the whole "parayi after marriage" stuff. I think that is some regressive crap that they all write and there's some sort of Hindi serial 101 where it says it's a must as part of marriage/wedding episodes.😵



Did you see what Urmi's mother was telling her yesterday? That she must conform to her new family basically. I hope I see a strong change within this show because as an intelligent and independent woman, I find this show highly offensive and disturbing.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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It's actually an insult to your intelligence
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Finally there are women here who find the show offensive. Its turning into a regressive plot. I happened to stumble on this show with its first episode where Trisha confronted rowdies on road and stood up to a typical guy like samrat. When i decided to be on this forum, it was pathetic to read women gushing over bad boy timid girl love story that has been given a strange name as samur love. So i figured the forum is full of either paid fans on digital medium or the cast and crew of show.
I was delighted to read some post today that actually say the show is regressive. And if they dont bring some freshness to it then they will lose a lot of audience. Am gonna stop watching if it becomes a pardes type story. Such shows and the script writers are totally oblivious to the wave of change amongst women, not just in metro cities but even in small towns. The resistance that Trisha faced as a modern and strong women is the true reality. Would have been nice if they show the problems a modern yet strong indian woman faces when she marries into families that have Sam as their son. I hated the lecture urmi 's dad and mum gave. And urmi 's character as a woman with regressive dreams and idea of marriage anf romance is even worst. This is not how we want our daughters and sisters to be...lets hope someone who is making the show notices such feedback from viewers.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Tellylove

Well, at first I did not have a problem with Samrat that is why I had agreed on the match, just thought he had attitude. I see it in all serials just took as the norm that the writers will always show some tough rich guy with attitude and then he changes. I really find these stories annoying, but what can I do? I spent the past years talking against the mediocre serials, but I only got bashing for it and that I must not comment or watch.
Frankly, I never liked how the cvs always showed that all rich people are bad.

However, for the past few days I did not like Samrat's behaviour which I have voiced. I don't express hate, because I am still trying to figure what is really wrong with this guy and he is not worth my hate either.

At the same time, I find it offensive that those who wanted Samrat and Urmi are being mocked. Everyone, who agrees on "Samur," as you put it, have different reasons for liking the match.

We know how these serials always end up, the guy acts like a jerk and with marriage he changes. I figure this is the norm, just the way Indian serials go, so I had no problem with the match. At the same time, don't assume everyone agrees with Samrat's behaviour and the regressive behaviour in the show. Since I have been watching these serials for the past 6 years, and all the shows are the same.
If you have a problem with these shows, then you all need to voice this to those who can do something about this and make a change.

Please don't mock others or say they are paid to gush over some rude boy etc. to make your point, your post will not have the effect intended only make others angry.

This post is not meant to offend, but I was offended by the post.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I was actually all for Samrat/Urmi. I guess I still am, somewhat but what bothers me about the pairing/are outside factors more so than Samrat.
This show is actually different for me in that Samrat is a male lead who is not going into a marriage planning on being just friends with his wife, or planning hating and punishing his wife.

His problem is his ego and how he believes his wife should act and how he as a husband can act. But Urmi has had many clues and hints and Urmi herself confirmed for Samrat that she would he the wife he wants when she chose him over Trisha.

What changed for me with Samrat/Urmi was Sangeet onwards when Trisha became collateral damage, and because we see Urmi's family and Samrat's mother praising Samrat to the skies, praising this match, wedding, etc. And they keep spouting regressive dialogues and views. It makes me want to shake them and NO, they are wrong. They shouldn't be validated.

There is something really bothersome now, and I don't blame it on Samrat either. They were all fools, Ishaan was the enabler. It's hard to explain. It's not Samrat/Urmi I dislike, it's all that is surrounding them.

I don't even view Urmi as a victim anymore. Not because she didn't call off the wedding, but because she herself proved to him that she would put him over her cousin. And also because she herself allowed herself to buy into Ishaan's words that don't worry, 'you will change him and will make a place in his heart."

So it's weird...I don't view Urmi as a victim. And it's everyone else's advice to her about marriage and her husband which does the job of making me not root for Samrat/Urmi.
Edited by likarsh - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I clearly understand your point Likarsh.
Right now I don't even care, because the truth is I don't like arrogant men. It is just that I am trying to be more tolerant and understanding until I find out what the cvs are really trying to show.

If Samrat was paired with Trish, I would have also been worried about her, because no matter the girl, Samrat still has issues in this thought process.

Whether or not a soft or tough girl is paired with him, either girls will have to go through trials with Samrat.

Only difference is that one girl would have been in a fighting match with Samrat everyday to change him and the other one would be trying to see how she could change him silently by hoping her love would change him.
Changing the girl don't make a difference, because we will still have to see the regressive behaviour of a family towards either girls.

I just don't get why anyone wanted Trish for Samrat if he is so bad and his behaviour is demeaning to women. Yet with Urmi, it is such a bad thing. Samrat behaved rudely with Trish, he would not change over night. So, that is my big question.

Furthermore, with the type of person Trish is, why would anyone of us think she would want Samrat in the first place? Strong willed women don't like men like Samrat, they normally find them jerks and stay away from them unless they are forced to marry them.

Error was that Urmi should have been told about Samrat initial refusal to marry her.

Edited by dumppurvi - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I wasn't calling for Samrat/Trisha. I said early on that I wish the show had been developed differently for Samrat/Trisha, but as the story has gone I don't see Samrat/Trisha and I don't see why/how Trisha would want him.

I believe Samrat/Trisha would've been viable, but not the way the story started off and progressed. And that type of couple couldn't have happenned in the marriage setting, so basically the chances of it happening in a Hindi serial are nill right now.


Edited by likarsh - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I'd like to point out that this topic is not about Samrat/Urmi vs. Samrat/Trisha. A Samrat and Trisha type of clash has been seen in many shows now. So, there's nothing new with either pairing.

I don't really have a problem with Samrat's character. He is a sexist pig and we've known that from day one. Clearly, he's wrong and is being portrayed as the current antagonist of the story. He's supposed to be a pompous jerk and this in fact, is the main conflict of the show. Samrat unfortunately represents a large population of men in India. It's sick but it's true. But yeah, with that being said, I have a feeling his mother will be worse than him. She's created this monster.

My main problem is mostly with Urmi's family. They are supposed to represent a typical middle class Indian family. However, their views on marriage and women are totally outdated. In fact, they make women sound so helpless and weak. Her in laws' house is her REAL home? Excuse you script writers!

What's next? Urmi can't handle Samrat and returns to her home only to be told by her parents to return to her husband as this is where she belongs now? Since she is "parayi" now. I think if this happens, I'll be done with this show for good. I can't handle anymore regressive nonsense.

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