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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: awida

I loved your analysis Jyoti.

I loved today's episode too. Specially RaShi's Scenes.

Where can a woman find a man like Raghu who will do anything for her without even realizing his love for her? I am crazy about this side of Raghu, and sad too. Coz, this poor man has nothing to offer his ladylove except his feelings and hard work. He is spoiling his life, don't care about himself or his family when it comes to Shivani's happiness. Now how can he arrange money for this treatment? Will he do some stunt?😲

true .. he has not realsied his love for Shivani , yet he is all ready to give life for her .. wowww this is what u call unconditional love but sighhh he just does not realise it .. even someone like Sumi knows it and tells it to Raghu on phone 😆😆

Now it's Shivani's turn. I loved how she forced Raghu to reveal the truth about fake marriage. I loved how she showed Raghu that there is no relationship between them. Maybe Raghu will start thinking why does he do all this for Shivani? 😉

true .. I want Shivani to actually maintain her distance from Raghu and keep reminding him how she is nobody to him 😛 .. this will definitely make Raghu feel the pinch and comes out clean with his feelings 😳


What I love about this love story is that it is pure, and old fashioned one. It reminds me of old age love stories , where nothing matters except love. Money, family, society, work , everything don't matter. All problems solved only by love. Raghu doesn't think twice before taking Shivani to Mumbai for treatment. And even after knowing how much it costs , he insists in moving on with it.
Shivani isn't selfish , she doesn't want Raghu to take care of her if they don't have a relationship. But after knowing the truth about fake marriage..and after that die after you part from Raghu. Shivani isn't stupid to understand that Raghu loves her. And this love matters more than anything else.

yeahh I m too loving the way love is portrayed in the show .. two people r binded together just by pure love which might look selfish to the world but for them its selfless love and submission 😳


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Posted: 11 years ago
#32
Hope Sumitra Track Ends Now!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#34
It was an interseting episode.and agree with latha di that shivani would have thought how raghu can bring so much money instead of feeling that raghu is no where related to her.
And i agree that shivani dint leave her princess attitude.
Over all a good episode but really feel that sumis character cannot be related either positively or negatively.so its better they end her character like she is fed up of roaming around raghu whose heart is with shivani.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#35
Good post jyoti...

Well...i am liking how the cvs showed both leads as human ...to the core... raghu doesn't care a hoot about sumi... he just uses her as per his ehims n fancies n doesn't even care about the honor of the girl he has promised to marry... he didn't apologise for the slap neither did he actually apoligise for revealing the fake marriage n using her in the whole process... as in his own words...he doesn't see what's right n what's wrong when it comes to shivani... n i think he is shocked by the realisation himself... he couldn't find a counter when sumi said that he doesn't even know or notice anything when he is with shivani...

I think sumi will turn full on negative ...n raghu is more responsible for it... he was earlier but not fully , only partially... but now her so called honor n pride r in shreds as everybody knows about the fact that she is living in the same room with raghu not as a wife but still an unmarried girl... she had requested raghu on behalf of her honor not to reveal the truth as he himself made her do the fake drama ... raghu treated her shabbily not taking into acct what she has to say in it... n went on to reveal the truth first to shivanj n then to bela...agree with uma di , raghu was being a coward... he did all this n left sumi to bear the burnt of ridicule n more mockery of herself at the hanfs of society n family...

Sumi should have come clean about the fake marriage after knowing that raghu told it to shivani but she is evil n manipulative ...we can't expect her to think rightly...

About what i think of shivani n her actions , will post as soon as i get to my office ...my mobile charge is diminishing...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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K ... here r my thoughts on shivani
i found her human in reacting to the shocking truth that he had faked his marriage thus conning her in the condition of marriage itself ... she has every right to be anger n show her anger n hurt on the person responsible...
n shivani was right in demanding raghu about what right he now has on her to decide on her life ...AGAIN... he is not her husband... he is not her naukar anymore as she had settled his 'baksheesh' earlier ... she knows he loves her n is desperate to get him admit it ... n raghu was tongue tied n blurted out the truth about the fake marriage ...
shivani was right in asking raghu how could he 'fake' marriage n fool his family n herself ... she is shocked at his one way mind which is filled only with her n her well being so much so that he doesn't care a hoot about others including his family n a girl he has promised to marry...
i am in 2 minds regarding shivani asking raghu to apologise to sumi ... for one thing ... shivani has every right to make/force raghu apologise to sumi bec she sees its right (as an outsider or whatever), exactly as raghu sees it right to force her dance with / marry another man against her wish (as her husband/naukar/outsider) ... they both r taking liberties n ownership of eachother's life n decisions n i don't see why the process should be oneway traffic only...
2nd thing ------- shivani don't know how evil sumi is ... only us viewers n maya knows... all shivani knows is that sumi had been very bad to her n her only!! ... she hasn't got a clue what sumi is doing in the house to others ... n sumi had only told her that she will take raghu all for herself , away from the family , not anything about she will destroy raghu or his family n all... so shivani assumed that sumi is a just a lot possessive in her so called love for raghu... n not a threat to the family ...n as we know shivani easily forgives whomever who has ever wronged her n doesn't carry any grudges against anyone so when she found out that raghu 'practically' used sumi for this fake marriage for 'her' sake , she thought that may be sumi deserves an apology from raghu ... which is not convincing to an extent
as for shivani's earlier condition that she will not marry karan if raghu divorces sumitra , it was her counter to raghu's declaration that he calls of the marriage between karan n her , just like that... bec shivani's next dialogue proved that she was questioning raghu on his right to decide on other's life ... she asks him how would he feel if she tries to tell him what to do... so it was a mere counter ... she didn't actually mean it ...
n also i think shivani asking raghu to apologise was a blessing in disguise ... we found that raghu just doesn't care a hoot about neither sumi nor his family ... all he cares is for shivani ... only she is his 'apna' not an outsider ...
as for shivani accepting raghu to bear all her surgical expenses ,, i think many r jumping the gun here ...she didn't agree to it , as far as yesterday's epi is concerned ... she sorts of backs off when raghu blackmails her with his 'i-will-die' - 'i-will-commit-suicide' dialouges ... n she makes him promise her 'whether she lives or dies' he will take care of himself ...i only see a selfless girl here ... not a selfish one as some r trying to paint her...
n it was raghu who brought her to mumbai hiding details... not shivani who is making raghu dance to her tunes ... n if raghu gives her his 'i will die if something happens u' threat again , i won't blame shivani for agreeing for him to bear her expenses ... but i think she will feel pain n bad seeing raghu struggle for money ...
n its not just raghu who has taken humiiations silently ... shivani too took it silently when those women were accusing n blaming her for marrying karan for money leaving behind poor raghu when it was raghu who was forcing her to marry karan... if she wanted she could have told them the truth n blames raghu but she didn't... instead she took all the humiliations on herself
as i said , these 2 only sees each other ... look at the extremes they r going
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Posted: 11 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: SilverBell

Hope Sumitra Track Ends Now!!

i doubt it will end so soon ..but hopefully her screentime will b reduced now as she might try and play victim in front of sehariyas
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: Uma-Arhaanfan

It was an interseting episode.and agree with latha di that shivani would have thought how raghu can bring so much money instead of feeling that raghu is no where related to her.
And i agree that shivani dint leave her princess attitude.
Over all a good episode but really feel that sumis character cannot be related either positively or negatively.so its better they end her character like she is fed up of roaming around raghu whose heart is with shivani.


I think Shivani felt so because Raghu himself said they hv no realtion to get her married to Karan , so Shivani just said what Raghu told her once but yes her tone was rude but its more human too as she was hurt after hearing about his lie ...our basic nature always reflect during such times and same for Shivani too in this case ... as soon as she looses her cool , we see her basic nature coming out in open , the whole authorative tone ...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: dhakarn

Good post jyoti...

Well...i am liking how the cvs showed both leads as human ...to the core... raghu doesn't care a hoot about sumi... he just uses her as per his ehims n fancies n doesn't even care about the honor of the girl he has promised to marry... he didn't apologise for the slap neither did he actually apoligise for revealing the fake marriage n using her in the whole process... as in his own words...he doesn't see what's right n what's wrong when it comes to shivani... n i think he is shocked by the realisation himself... he couldn't find a counter when sumi said that he doesn't even know or notice anything when he is with shivani...

I agree here ..Shivani means the world to him right now and mayb he himself is yet to realise it and so he had no answer to what Sumi told him on phone .. he was simply stunned with the reality chk he got and when Shivani said what right u hv to take care of my treatment , then too he just could not give a name to the relation because he himself broke the relation long back .. so yup in a way he was a bit clean bowled ... 😆

I think sumi will turn full on negative ...n raghu is more responsible for it... he was earlier but not fully , only partially... but now her so called honor n pride r in shreds as everybody knows about the fact that she is living in the same room with raghu not as a wife but still an unmarried girl... she had requested raghu on behalf of her honor not to reveal the truth as he himself made her do the fake drama ... raghu treated her shabbily not taking into acct what she has to say in it... n went on to reveal the truth first to shivanj n then to bela...agree with uma di , raghu was being a coward... he did all this n left sumi to bear the burnt of ridicule n more mockery of herself at the hanfs of society n family...

I sort of disagree here because I dont think any person is responsible for someone turning positive or negative but the person himmself or herself ... we can see it in Karan ka case only ...Shivani kept him in dark when he repeatedly asked her whether she is marrying on her own wish or is it forced on her by Raghu but Shivani bluntly lied to him ...Karasn then got Shivani ka letter and realised the truth .. he could hv felt cheated too with Shivani that moment as she is his childhood friend and could hv turned vengeful like Sumi and could hv accused Shivani of playing with his emotions because Raghu is outsider for Karan but Shivani was his best friend ... But Karan understood Shivani's love for Raghu there and dint turn vengeful but just walked off ...

Sumi does the opposite and goes on Raghu accusing spree when the truth is she always had a choice not to support Raghu in fake marriage act since at least Raghu dint keep Sumi in dark about the whole idea of how he is doing all this for babyji .. he always cleared it to Sumi about why he is doing what he is doing .. so somewhere if Sumi turns vengeful , its her own basic nature for which Raghu cant b blamed or else Karan would hv turned vengeful too as more unfair happened to him than what happened to Sumi ...

yes sumi did request to Raghu not to reveal the truth but Raghu too made it clear to Sumi that moment that for babyji ka sake , he will reveal it .. so that promise was broken there itself and then it was upto raghu when he reveals the truth ...

one thing I agree is Raghu should not hv left it all on bela and shouldhv told to latha on his own after he knew she is back .. but agsin shivani was his top priority that moment than revealing truth to all ...

Sumi should have come clean about the fake marriage after knowing that raghu told it to shivani but she is evil n manipulative ...we can't expect her to think rightly...

About what i think of shivani n her actions , will post as soon as i get to my office ...my mobile charge is diminishing...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: dhakarn

K ... here r my thoughts on shivani

i found her human in reacting to the shocking truth that he had faked his marriage thus conning her in the condition of marriage itself ... she has every right to be anger n show her anger n hurt on the person responsible...

yup reaction was human .. agree on that 👍🏼
n shivani was right in demanding raghu about what right he now has on her to decide on her life ...AGAIN... he is not her husband... he is not her naukar anymore as she had settled his 'baksheesh' earlier ... she knows he loves her n is desperate to get him admit it ... n raghu was tongue tied n blurted out the truth about the fake marriage ...

agree here too .. she just repeated what Raghu told her long back ...
shivani was right in asking raghu how could he 'fake' marriage n fool his family n herself ... she is shocked at his one way mind which is filled only with her n her well being so much so that he doesn't care a hoot about others including his family n a girl he has promised to marry...

yeah it did look like she was shocked with his revelation about how far he can go for her .. it was a pleasant shock though but she is not that selfish to feel happy about it as now she is attached to Raghu ka family too ...
i am in 2 minds regarding shivani asking raghu to apologise to sumi ... for one thing ... shivani has every right to make/force raghu apologise to sumi bec she sees its right (as an outsider or whatever), exactly as raghu sees it right to force her dance with / marry another man against her wish (as her husband/naukar/outsider) ... they both r taking liberties n ownership of eachother's life n decisions n i don't see why the process should be oneway traffic only...

I got to agree on this bit ...yes they both r outsider for each other yet both sort of feel they hv the right on each other which is debatable in a way but thats how the love story is shown .. they just need a name to this relation now ...
2nd thing ------- shivani don't know how evil sumi is ... only us viewers n maya knows... all shivani knows is that sumi had been very bad to her n her only!! ... she hasn't got a clue what sumi is doing in the house to others ... n sumi had only told her that she will take raghu all for herself , away from the family , not anything about she will destroy raghu or his family n all... so shivani assumed that sumi is a just a lot possessive in her so called love for raghu... n not a threat to the family ...n as we know shivani easily forgives whomever who has ever wronged her n doesn't carry any grudges against anyone so when she found out that raghu 'practically' used sumi for this fake marriage for 'her' sake , she thought that may be sumi deserves an apology from raghu ... which is not convincing to an extent

I dunno if I can agree on this because months back Shivani and Sumi challenged each other about 1 month thing when Shivani clearly said Sumi is not right for Raghu .. so all the way she knew Sumi is a wrong choice for Raghhu as her intentions r to separate Raghu from his family which Sumi told Shivani that night itself during 1 month challenge .. so if not full but at least Shivani is partially aware of Sumi's real face and always thought she is evil ... in fact last week itself Shivani dint think twice before telling Raghu that if u dont want me to marry Karan , then u too divorce Sumi and after that she told herself this is last option to get Raghu back in my life which means she was genuinely hoping Raghu to leave Sumi 🤔

This is where I felt it was a bit out of character for Shivani to ask Raghu in such strong tone to apologise to Sumi that moment itself ... in fact Bela was more in character and felt no sorry for Sumi even though both Bela and Shivani r on same wavelength almost when it comes to Sumi ...

I dont blame Shivani here but more the CVs to get her out of character just to do damage control on the whole hue and cry over Raghu slapping Sumi debate and so the sympathy was shown on Sumi here by compromising a bit on the character of female lead I felt ...
as for shivani's earlier condition that she will not marry karan if raghu divorces sumitra , it was her counter to raghu's declaration that he calls of the marriage between karan n her , just like that... bec shivani's next dialogue proved that she was questioning raghu on his right to decide on other's life ... she asks him how would he feel if she tries to tell him what to do... so it was a mere counter ... she didn't actually mean it ...

but she did tell to herself that this is my last option to get raghu back in my life after she keeps the condition .. so a part of her heart genuinely wished for Raghu to leave Sumi ...
n also i think shivani asking raghu to apologise was a blessing in disguise ... we found that raghu just doesn't care a hoot about neither sumi nor his family ... all he cares is for shivani ... only she is his 'apna' not an outsider ...

yes this is true .. also Raghu got to hear how much venom Sumi is carrying ,.. 😆
as for shivani accepting raghu to bear all her surgical expenses ,, i think many r jumping the gun here ...she didn't agree to it , as far as yesterday's epi is concerned ... she sorts of backs off when raghu blackmails her with his 'i-will-die' - 'i-will-commit-suicide' dialouges ... n she makes him promise her 'whether she lives or dies' he will take care of himself ...i only see a selfless girl here ... not a selfish one as some r trying to paint her...

yup she dint agree yet and i think it will put on hold .. Shivani might stsy with him in mumbai but she wont give her consent for operation and then sdome last min miracle might happen ...
n it was raghu who brought her to mumbai hiding details... not shivani who is making raghu dance to her tunes ... n if raghu gives her his 'i will die if something happens u' threat again , i won't blame shivani for agreeing for him to bear her expenses ... but i think she will feel pain n bad seeing raghu struggle for money ...

yeah we need to wait and watch for the part...
n its not just raghu who has taken humiiations silently ... shivani too took it silently when those women were accusing n blaming her for marrying karan for money leaving behind poor raghu when it was raghu who was forcing her to marry karan... if she wanted she could have told them the truth n blames raghu but she didn't... instead she took all the humiliations on herself

thats true but here I guess what many meant is only the RaShi equation where Shivani mostly has her authorative tone and Raghu has his submissive tone which is what is their basic nature reason why the whole distance of malkin and naukar is not going .. the day it becomes opposite , we might see them both as man and woman in love .. we did see glimpses of Raghu in authorative tone many times and Shivani at times in submissive tone too but its few occasions only ...the day I see it as regular pattern or mayb both in authorative or submissive tone together , they will themselves feel as equal ...
as i said , these 2 only sees each other ... look at the extremes they r going

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